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Kerosene
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posted August 20, 2013 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad is strongly leo,virgo, and libran influenced and he's fine with my mother being the breadwinner.
- Leo is entitled.
- Virgo loves money
- Libran men are lazy and like being dominated.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 20, 2013 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a degree of laziness in all Libras.

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posted August 20, 2013 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
ok, so, this is my interpretation as to the most open-minded moons in men to the least open-minded.
sorry if the term 'open-minded' is not the correct one, i thought this was the most accurate terminology to use.
now, what i really mean is: guys who truly respect a woman that is intelligent, dont mind if she is confident, if she makes more money that he does, tomboyish, and he doesnt expect her to be obedient and submissive.

i dont know if it is the moon or mars that counts...but, im starting to think that it is the moon...
what other placements do you think is relevant?

very open-minded, dont care much for stereotypical gender roles:
libra moon
pisces moon
gemini moon

in the middle:
leo moon: this one depends, because the leo moon man wants to be king, so, he may expect a princess, on the other hand, if his woman happens to be a badass queen and makes him look good, he won't mind at all.
sagittarius: so, this sign is open to different cultures, and whatnot, but, i still find them traditional and wanting to be served and with certain entitlement issues.
scorpio: i dunno about this one, on one hand, can come across as controlling, on the other, there are scorpio mooners who adore a strong woman that will challenge him.
aquarius: i thought this one would be open, because i used to think aqua = uranus, but nope, aqua, like scorpio, is a fixed sign and sort of similar to scorpio, so, it can go both ways. ive seen aquas who are very proud of their independent partners, and others who are the complete opposite.

not open-minded:
aries moon
taurus moon
virgo moon
cancer moon
capricorn moon: i see capricorn moon at least, more respectful than the others. as in, you have your role and even if it is different than mine, i respect it.
ive found aries/taurus/virgo mooners as being very condescending...and always whining about how "good the old days were", aries and taurus being the most pushy and virgo tearing the woman's self-esteem into pieces.
cancer moon: employs manipulation to get the woman to obey.

what say you?



My male spouse has an Aries moon and I'm not the typical born female person - I am actually translite/genderqueer - I don't fit or identify on the binary scale of things. I have my freedom and live my life on my own terms, so does he. Sometimes he does that female stereotype and I'm fine with that....

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ail221
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posted August 20, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
wow....just like my op.
curious....what a coincidence!
and to think that gem and libra are air signs and pisces squares gem and quincunx libra...
any other patterns involving these three?

Well Pisces & Gemini are both mutable there not necessarily focused on "leading" as most Cardinal moons are nor are they "fixated" on their emotions or ideals.
Which Libra I find their focused on keeping balance and maintaining neutrality until forced to do so,but they generally tend to see & consider both side of the pendulum.

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KarkaQueen
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posted August 20, 2013 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my bf strongly prefers traditional women and hes a pisces moon but he likes eccentricity

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Brendan34
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posted August 21, 2013 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Yes! very pushy... OMG.
Avoid. Avoid. Avoid lol
Never try to teach these guys better behaviour or get combative with them.
Being put in time-out is the only way they will learn (because they hate being ignored).

- Men with harsh Mars/Saturn or Mars/Pluto aspects

- Men with Aries planets that are debilitated... or retrograde.


Most of the Pisces men I know are the least sexist, most feminist minded men I know, including myself. More sexist men I've encountered are Aries, Sagittarius, Leo men.

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hikoro
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posted August 21, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
Well Pisces & Gemini are both mutable there not necessarily focused on "leading" as most Cardinal moons are nor are they "fixated" on their emotions or ideals.
Which Libra I find their focused on keeping balance and maintaining neutrality until forced to do so,but they generally tend to see & consider both side of the pendulum.

ok, so why arent virgo and saggie (also mutables) like pisces and gemini?
and libra is a cardinal sign...'leading'
so, what gives?
im not trying to be annoying...i just want to know if you come up with
other interesting ideas as to the reasons pisces, gemini and libra seem to be the coolest in
regards to this subject.

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hikoro
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posted August 21, 2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brendan34:
Most of the Pisces men I know are the least sexist, most feminist minded men I know, including myself. More sexist men I've encountered are Aries, Sagittarius, Leo men.


so agree...the countless of pisces mooners ive met who do ballet, surrounded
by girls, by gay men...
and they dont care at all...even if others assume they're gay...doesnt bother them...
and...they def. dont mind dominant-agressive women.

yes, the fiery moons are more sexist, prolly has to do with being masculine signs, so imagine, a man having a masculine moon, and adding to that, masculine moons dont seem to gel well with what the moon corresponds too, so, imo...it
exacerbates all of that testosterone and sexism.

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posted August 21, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I dunno.

The one Pisces Mooner boy I dated told me that I was "too independent".
He was a Taurus Sun, though.

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Odette
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posted August 21, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces can be highly mysoginistic with enough Aries in combination.

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posted August 21, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pisces moon here. yeah youre correct about us not caring lol.
i often get labeled gay because i tell people my major is theatre. some of my closest friends are gay. and im also fine with women being independent, because usually they just have the urge to want to take care of me haha so im fine with that...

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Mars Pisces Venus Pisces
Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn
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Vradec
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posted August 21, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say Venus in Aquarius and/or Mars and Uranus contacts.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 21, 2013 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Virgo Moon male, and I don't mind acknowledging my feminine Sun, Moon, Mars in relation to my wife's masculine Sun, Neptune, Pluto, Uranus, and Rising. She is the primary breadwinner. I am the trophy wife (we joke).

I don't whine about the good old days.

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posted August 21, 2013 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a difference between being "sexist" and knowing a feminine woman

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Brendan34
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posted August 24, 2013 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hikoro:
so agree...the countless of pisces mooners ive met who do ballet, surrounded
by girls, by gay men...
and they dont care at all...even if others assume they're gay...doesnt bother them...
and...they def. dont mind dominant-agressive women.

yes, the fiery moons are more sexist, prolly has to do with being masculine signs, so imagine, a man having a masculine moon, and adding to that, masculine moons dont seem to gel well with what the moon corresponds too, so, imo...it
exacerbates all of that testosterone and sexism.


That's a really good point.

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chargeomentum
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posted August 24, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chargeomentum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is true. I don't like women who try to prove that they are stronger than me. I have nothing against them if they are but the whole idea of proving it makes me kinda angry and want to put them in their place.

i'm sagg moon, i also have some of aries planets, like someone mentioned sun, saturn, mercury. BUT Im totally fine if women are better at something than me, but hate it when they want to prove it in my face.

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posted August 24, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
There's a difference between being "sexist" and knowing a feminine woman

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