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Topic: Stelliums : How do you study them ?
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 09:39 AM
I've been wondering about what methods do you guys use when you're studying Stelliums.I personally look at a Stellium as a heavy concentration of one merged colorful energy that's sent to one aspect of the native's chart/life. Sparkles of different energies comes off from different planets only to be merged into one and that single united energy is directed towards one area of the birth chart. As a student of Karmic Astrology, I believe that Stelliums are Karmic in origin and are made for one clear purpose which is to emphasize on one area/house that was repetitively neglected or overlooked in previous lifetimes.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 09:45 AM
I have a Libra stellium and my mom has treated me more like a partner than her kid, responsibility-wise. I had to shoulder the responsibility growing up of managing the house/taking care of myself while my mom focused on her career. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I have a Libra stellium and my mom has treated me more like a partner than her kid, responsibility-wise. I had to shoulder the responsibility growing up of managing the house/taking care of myself while my mom focused on her career.
Do you also happen to have your moon in Libra too ? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 09:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: Do you also happen to have your moon in Libra too ?
My moon is in Taurus. Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus are in Libra, Pluto, too, maybe, since the orbit is off? So is the ascendant.
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 10:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: My moon is in Taurus. Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus are in Libra, Pluto, too, maybe, since the orbit is off? So is the ascendant.[/B]
Karmically speaking, Moon in Taurus usually hints at deep subconscious issues in relation to emotional/material security. These issues usually stem from a mother who failed to provide her child with the needed qualities of a maternal figure specially during childhood/early upbringing. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 10:11 AM
YES, so true, Silverfeather!! Many times during my youth I swore I would be a better nurturer than my mother. I made a point of it!IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 10:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: YES, so true, Silverfeather!! Many times during my youth I swore I would be a better nurturer than my mother. I made a point of it!
I'm sure you will. You strike me as the loving, nurturing and motherly-like type of person IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: I'm sure you will. You strike me as the loving, nurturing and motherly-like type of person
Thank you! Astrology is fond of saying people with moon in Taurus or Cancer have really nurturing mothers, and were well cared for in their early home environments. I wonder if it's always the case, it wasn't with me. Sometimes, it seems, the opposite is true yet the person with these moon signs learns from it and makes a point to be a different person because of hardships they experienced.
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 10:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Thank you! Astrology is fond of saying people with moon in Taurus or Cancer have really nurturing mothers, and were well cared for in their early home environments. I wonder if it's always the case, it wasn't with me. Sometimes, it seems, the opposite is true yet the person with these moon signs learns from it and makes a point to be a different person because of hardships they experienced.[/B]
That's the main reason why I choose to study Karmic Astrology. Unlike the usual astrological cookbooks, Karmic Astrology digs deep within a native's chart and tries to reach the highest level of accuracy by using rather difficult tiresome techniques that compel a lot of brainstorming and thinking because you see, every chart is unique and nothing could be exactly the same for two different people.
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 774 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 12:59 PM
I have a Gemini stellium.I've always had trouble communicating. Maybe this is my lesson this lifetime?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69823 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2013 01:03 PM
I think the easiness or difficulty of a stellium depends on the house. For me, I have a 9th house stellium and I see it as super positive. I think a 7th house stellium can be very, very hard. It is one of the hardest imo. I have seen this make a really hard struggle with co-dependency. I think a 1st house stellium is hard cuz the person gets very self centered ime So, one would have to look at the house. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 774 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 01:07 PM
Mine is in the 5th.I have always struggled with everything related to the 5th house.But I also have Chiron there,that could explain it.I've always felt like I have a very karmic chart. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Knowflake Posts: 1054 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 23, 2013 01:16 PM
Nice subject silverfeather How would you interpret a stellium in the first house though? Some people would look at it as the 'self'...selfish...but i have that an in truth am very selfless, because i'm just not like that. However i did suffer every time i put any other person before me, so now changing. not becoming selfish, but i'm not doubting myself anymore. Do you think the house or the sign is more telling about what the karmic message is? IP: Logged |
Dark_Sun9 Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Exeter, United Kingdom Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 23, 2013 01:16 PM
I also have a first house stellium - Scorp asc conj Scorp Jupiter Scorp Pluto Sag sun sag mercury Then a 3 placement capricorn moon/nept/uranus in the 2nd Can anyone shed me any light on that? ------------------ 1st house. Scorpio Asc Conjunct Scorpio Pluto, Scorpio Jupiter, Sagittarius Sun, Sagittarius Mercury. 2nd house. Capricorn Moon Conjunct Capricorn Uranus, Capricorn Neptune. 3rd house. Saturn Pisces. 9th House Mars leo. 11th Venus Scorpio IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 01:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
Nice subject silverfeather How would you interpret a stellium in the first house though? Some people would look at it as the 'self'...selfish...but i have that an in truth am very selfless, because i'm just not like that. However i did suffer every time i put any other person before me, so now changing. not becoming selfish, but i'm not doubting myself anymore. Do you think the house or the sign is more telling about what the karmic message is?
The House comes first as the " Where" ( the area that the energy emphasizes upon) then the Sign for the "How" ( the way how this energy express itself). For example with someone who has a major Stellium in the 1st house in Leo. Here, the Stellium indicates a soul whose main quest in this lifetime is to find itself. Usually this placement indicates a past-life where the soul lacked a clear sense of itself and used others as a mean of projection. With the Stellium being in Leo, the soul has to learn how to be independent, less needy of others and more confident in itself. The soul needs to build a solid image of itself. Issues of low-self esteem and unworthiness are usually noted in past lives f those born with this placement.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69823 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2013 01:40 PM
I have found the 1st house stellium to be self centered more than selfish. This is not a diss, although it may sound like one as we all have easy and hard things in our charts.I have seen this person not realize how she may impact others. That may be the best way to say it. I am not saying I am an expert in stelliums either. Just one person's opinion ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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NoRainNoRainbows Knowflake Posts: 1054 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 23, 2013 01:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: The House comes first as the " Where" ( the area that the energy emphasizes upon) then the Sign for the "How" ( the way how this energy express itself).For example with someone who has a major Stellium in the 1st house in Leo. Here, the Stellium indicates a soul whose main quest in this lifetime is to find itself. Usually this placement indicates a past-life where the soul lacked a clear sense of itself and used others as a mean of projection. With the Stellium being in Leo, the soul has to learn how to be independent, less needy of others and more confident in itself. The soul needs to build a solid image of itself. Issues of low-self esteem and unworthiness are usually noted in past lives f those born with this placement.
So you are saying both the house and the sign of the stellium go with one another... as in someone with stellium in first house Pisces will be very different from someone with the stellium in first house leo for example?
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 01:43 PM
Stelliums are fun, they're so forceful!! They can funnel all the energy of the chart and become a crutch to that person's life.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 01:44 PM
I agree they do funnel energy creating a focal point :S Others feel this intensity and it can grate on them. IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 01:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows: So you are saying both the house and the sign of the stellium go with one another...as in someone with stellium in first house Pisces will be very different from someone with the stellium in first house leo for example?
The same Karmic lesson still applies to both but the way this energy is expressed is not the same. With Leo, it's bright, bold and open. With Pisces, the energy is veiled by a Neptunian feel/vibe and less forceful/evident in its expression. With Pisces, the energy could be directed more inwardly than outwardly which is the opposite with Leo which always remains true to itself as a fire, masculine and extroverted sign. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Knowflake Posts: 1054 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 23, 2013 02:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: The same Karmic lesson still applies to both but the way this energy is expressed is not the same. With Leo, it's bright, bold and open. With Pisces, the energy is veiled by a Neptunian feel/vibe and less forceful/evident in its expression. With Pisces, the energy could be directed more inwardly than outwardly which is the opposite with Leo which always remains true to itself as a fire, masculine and extroverted sign.
cool thank you for sharing all what you know silverfeather yip mine is sidreal Leo, but normal Virgo....i'm the messiest person i know though, and last to critique anyone (i think everyone should let everyone else just be themeselves, as no one has a feather in their caps. so not sure if i was too much of one thing(i am not going to say though i am so clean, as most people are regardless of sign) Neptune squares every single planet in my stelluim btw, so talk about blurry...hah!
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posted August 23, 2013 02:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverFeather: Karmically speaking, Moon in Taurus usually hints at deep subconscious issues in relation to emotional/material security. These issues usually stem from a mother who failed to provide her child with the needed qualities of a maternal figure specially during childhood/early upbringing.
Interesting. Also really true. (Moon in Taurus trine Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and opposition Pluto. Lots of emotional karma? I think so.) I have an 11H stellium and a 7H stellium. The 11H is in Aries and the 7H is in Capricorn, they square each other.
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posted August 23, 2013 02:15 PM
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SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1604 From: Mercury sometimes...Jupiter some other times Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 23, 2013 02:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Interesting. Also really true. (Moon in Taurus trine Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and opposition Pluto. Lots of emotional karma? I think so.)I have an 11H stellium and a 7H stellium. The 11H is in Aries and the 7H is in Capricorn, they square each other.
Trines are positive/soft in nature but in cases they're not, they will likely become easier to handle through time and maturity. However, square and oppositions are true challenges to everyone of us. The harsh aspects are what make us learn and grow. With Moon opposition Pluto, it's very likely that your mother was quite the controlling type who used her maternal authority to smothered you with limitations. Your early domestic environment was rather toxic in nature, poisoned by negative energies and colored by issues of control/power struggle. This could hint at an unresolved Karma of a emotional nature towards one's mother or childhood. It could also be traced back to previous lifetimes because both Moon and Pluto( along with Saturn) are considered among the most Karmic planets in Astrology. IP: Logged |
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posted August 23, 2013 02:52 PM
I have a first house stellium I am self centered but not selfish because that's more of a second house thing.My personality is in your face and people don't always like that. I'm not very diplomatic if I feel strongly about something. I can be charismatic when it's required otherwise everyone can go **** themselves. IP: Logged |