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Hera
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posted September 04, 2013 09:54 AM
  
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
LOL !
You can take at look at my chart...
I've been a firm atheist since my early teens..
SilverFeather, I noticed you have 9th house ruler placed in your 3rd. That could mean filtering other people's beliefs through your own thinking ie, a critical thinker. I have the same and it's also Venus (though I have Libra on the 9H cusp). You know what else is odd? You have a Venus-Chiron square, I have the conjunction.. It makes sense that you describe yourself as a "firm" atheist given that you have Taurus on the 9H cusp. I have Libra, so I wiggled a little before settling as an agnostic. Had to see both signs of the coin and now there is balance  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Diplopoda:
I believe an atheist has strong saturn either conj sun, merc or in the 9th house
That sounds like an interesting point. If not, the person could have been brought up in a restrictive religious home.
What do you think?
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 10:30 AM
I think Chiron in the 9th is religious abuse. What do you guys think? Lexx, do you have Chiron in the 9th? ------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Precisely, LL is a spiritual site. NOT a religious one. And wasn't Linda opposed to organized religion?
Exactly!
Fundie Christian preachings do not belong here, just as Islamic extremist preachings do not belong here. Can you picture the righteous outrage if any
Islamist extemists were to post the way some Christian extremists (same thing as a fundie btw) have here? Religion is a difficult topic often.
For example;
Ami said this:
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Christians are the one group that can be dissed on a public board and people can get away with it.
When you laugh at Jesus, remember He is sacred to some of us.
No, Christians are one group who can push non believers around and cry loudly when their beliefs are protested, ie; homophobia and desire for death and eternal damnation
for most of humanity.
Folks have tried to discuss from a non religious scholarly point of view, the bible(s) as we would discuss Roman/Greek or any religions ancient or modern and or the 100s of different gods and religions still practiced/worshiped in these times.
and or different types of Christianity and why they do not like each other, or why the 3 Abrahamic faiths are so radically different and dislike up to hate with deadly and war minded murderous intent.
A person years back wanted to talk about Parsee and others variations of other faiths, from Pagan to Hindi, to even more obscure ones;
but did not feel free to do so because of the perceived too heavy Alglocentric and heavily Christian feel here;
which has contrary to what some think,
has in my pov and others become oppressive,
and certain factors make this appear to be a site biased against any other faiths and heavily favoring Christianity.
I am not knocking Ami for her paid for $$$ advertisement/banner;
that is between her and Randall.
However I and others out there would not have joined LL if that banner had been there when we joined.
The banner matches LL and is clearly Christian and if you visit the site it it clearly fundie.
So I think folks are afraid to join, and afraid to post and just lurk because of the fights they have seen here and the heavy Christian presence with threads by one fanatical person sometimes taking up nearly half of pages at DD in the past.Yes,
as Ami said;
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lets try to remember that we are a spiritual site and each person can have his own opinion.
However that does not mean to overpower to the point that people are scared to post and even driven away, or never join.I KNOW I am too scared. 
Last time I protested a person talking nasty about gay people; people became angry with me. Or posted relevant verses from same book.
Hence part of the reason DD is almost a ghost town now,
myself and others are afraid to post and also why bother;
who cares to really discuss?
Like even biblical things;
for example;
"If" the tales are true;
just hypothetically speaking;
then what did Ezekiel see?
A spaceship? Aliens?
So many interesting things to ponder if one removes religion from the discussions and looks at it as myths and legends;
or even something stranger like alien visitations or whatever.
How about how the many different creation tales and messiah tales of different times and cultures and how they are the same and how they vary? I could be wrong but I think that would be along the lines of things Linda Goodman would
have pondered. To quote Ami again to make a point...
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Christians are the one group that can be dissed on a public board and people can get away with it.
When you laugh at Jesus, remember He is sacred to some of us.
Well when you say what you believe about Jesus, you offend folks of other faiths.
Some do believe in a Jesus, but not in the way you do.
Some believe he was a man, a good man and the tales about him offend such folks.
So sacred is to one good and to another a lie about a person to use as a scapegoat.So yeah, religion is a difficult thing to talk about;
unless we try to keep it scholarly.
I don't know how to easily remedy this situation and bring life back to DD. Again;
this thread should be moved to DD in my pov. Apologies for ranting or possibly not making sense, or if anyone is offended.
Too much to think about here and I am overwhelmed.
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think Chiron in the 9th is religious abuse. What do you guys think? Lexx, do you have Chiron in the 9th?
LOL!
I am unlearned in astrology...even my own chart.
Will have to look, as I have no idea offhand.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 10:37 AM
Well, I did not have religious abuse so I can't imagine how bad that is but I feel like you would have Chiron in the 9th and it would make hard aspects to other personal planets like the moon.------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, I did not have religious abuse so I can't imagine how bad that is but I feel like you would have Chiron in the 9th and it would make hard aspects to other personal planets like the moon.
My Chiron is in my first house.
There is nothing in my ninth house.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 10:53 AM
Is your Chiron conj your ASC, Lexx? If so, how close?What are it's other aspects==squares, trines, oppositions and to which other houses? ------------------
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Hera
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posted September 04, 2013 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
So many interesting things to ponder if one removes religion from the discussions and looks at it as myths and legends;
or even something stranger like alien visitations or whatever.
How about how the many different creation tales and messiah tales of different times and cultures and how they are the same and how they vary?I could be wrong but I think that would be along the lines of things Linda Goodman would
have pondered.
That would be very interesting!! I agree that it would be better to move this to DD but I probably won't post there.. I'd like to see your chart too, Lexx, if you want to post it. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
LEXX  We can be outcasts together!  But I don't think we'd be alone in that! 
Welcome! 
No we are not alone.
Many more of us out there.
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Diplopoda
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posted September 04, 2013 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That sounds like an interesting point. If not, the person could have been brought up in a restrictive religious home.What do you think?
I'd agree. A restructive religious place.
I read though that sun/Saturn people are usually their own gods. Even Jupiter will bow before a god, no matter their arrogance. A sun/Saturn would be their own god if affliction permits. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
There are no absolutes in astrology. I think there are clues, especially regarding freedom of thought vs blind faith. But for every person that confirms a placement there's another who is an exception. For example, I have Pluto (obsession) in the 9th (religion, philosophical beliefs) and I am not a fanatic.
I have nothing in these houses:
2-3-4-5-6-12And I agree with your assessment of astrology.  OK,
must go for now.
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I'm so cappy
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posted September 04, 2013 10:59 AM
Thanks everyone for joining but try to calm down. I don't want this thread to be closed. There was a time when my mother's bevaiour could qualify as religious abuse and I don't have Chiron in the 9th house either but it's in Cancer so maybe there's some connection. ------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Is your Chiron conj your ASC, Lexx? If so, how close?What are it's other aspects==squares, trines, oppositions and to which other houses?
I will post my chart.
Give me a moment.
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
That would be very interesting!!I agree that it would be better to move this to DD but I probably won't post there.. I'd like to see your chart too, Lexx, if you want to post it.
Posting it , trying to,
then must go for now.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks everyone for joining but try to calm down. I don't want this thread to be closed. There was a time when my mother's bevaiour could qualify as religious abuse and I don't have Chiron in the 9th house either but it's in Cancer so maybe there's some connection.
I think it is staying surprisingly not perfectly calm but a reasonable fairly calm so fair.
That is pretty good considering the potential volatility of religious topics.
We have had our says and continued on then with the topic at hand: 
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Chart of an atheist
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:19 AM
Take your time posting, Lexx. I am back and forth on here.I am thinking you will have Chiron conj the ASC which is the single worst place for Chiron because it is severe bullying. Ian has this, as well. ------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 11:24 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:27 AM
You don't have it conjunct the ASC. Are you sure of your birth time?------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:29 AM
Your only earth planet is Chiron. Your only fire planet is Pluto.The singleton in earth seems to make a focus on that planet. I wish I had the lines to Chiron to see it's aspects better. ------------------
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Lexxigramer
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posted September 04, 2013 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You don't have it conjunct the ASC. Are you sure of your birth time?
Absolutely sure;
it is as on my original birth certificate and registration.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:31 AM
Moon conj mars--exact Horrible mother. I have never seen this exact.This makes it hard for you not to react fast and explosively when you feel hurt. I have it at 10 degrees so I know what it feels like but usually I can hold it in. This is prolly why you feel your emotions get the better of you. ------------------
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chargeomentum
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posted September 04, 2013 11:32 AM
Can anyone once and for all tell me, how the non-existent hell, did someone thought of all these astrological descriptions? Sagittarius phisophical atheist. Why the hell my friends aren't either spiritual nor atheistic? Tell me. TELL ME. And no, don't say anything about unique individual charts. I probably know these 2 people more than I know myself so no, natal chart doesn't have to do anything with it. Plus why in the hell is a fire sign considered as philosophical? Aren't they supposed to be the so called adrenaline-junkie stereotypes? huh? HUH ???????????????Did somebody, somehow, even my brain can't imagine how, took a test of.. 7.1 billion people? Or some random guy just thought it would be cool to personoficate 12 months? I demand an answer now. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:33 AM
Your Venus quincunx my Sun, exact. That is why we have a hard time with each other.If I have any dissension with anyone and can check out the charts, it will always be there lol ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 04, 2013 11:35 AM
Sun conj Saturn --1 degreeTerrible father and very oppressed by him. You have it bad with the mother and father. Your Chiron does not look that bad. You have no 12th house planets. What does anyone say about the Chiron as the earth singelton? Any comments about the chart, Friends? ------------------
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