posted September 06, 2013 12:03 PM            

I'm wondering if any astrologers out there have seen someone with too much Neptune eventually get beyond it. Meaning where someone with a lot of Neptune-Venus/Moon indicators finally stops living Neptunian relationships. I'm not talking about someone young at the beginning of their relationship journey, but someone a bit older who's gone through several Neptunian relationships.. the guys with girlfriends, the guys who seemed straight but weren't, the fantasy non-existent relationships, etc.

If you want to see the Neptunian disaster that is my chart, here are the details: April 15, 1975, Moncton, Canada, 9:15 a.m.

posted September 06, 2013 12:55 PM            

I am Pisces rising, so Neptune is my chart ruler. It is not well aspected, and it has been responsible for a lot of clouded thinking in a certain areas of my life (love, sex, money, religion) where it has led me to the worst kind of delusions. When you wake up from one of those Neptunian dreams, reality can be shattering and devastating.

Sigh... What to do? I have tried rejecting my chart ruler, but it's not possible. It's like rejecting yourself. So this is what I have done in the past few months and it seems to be working.

I need to express Neptune in some way or the other. So I reserve that specifically for dancing and listening to music which I do everyday. It keeps me happy. But otherwise, I make it a point to reject dreamy thoughts, fantasies and daydreaming in the areas where it has caused me trouble. I just tell myself, Neptune, stop it, you're not going to mislead me again, and I call on Saturn to bring me wisdom and clearheadedness.

posted September 06, 2013 01:10 PM            

I have Saturn conjunct Venus in Scorpio and even with this, I feel soooo much.

But I channel a lot of that Venus energy into creativity; painting, writing, theatre production, poetry etc.

Now as far as romantic relations are concerned,with Neptune therein, that's a b***.

I'd also add that neptune aspecting Venus can make one's relations topsy turvy; things can seldom make sense and one can go from feeling completely invisible to suffering in the hands of a lover.

My therapy for anything is writing. There is nothing that gets my juices flowing quite like pain; it is the ultimate muse.

I say, if you can, write. Write about your experiences and with your Sun conjunct Mercury, maybe you should talk to somone too.

posted September 06, 2013 01:24 PM            

I was like what's wrong with my screen!!

posted September 06, 2013 01:46 PM            

However malefic planets like mars can either channel neptune in a beautiful way or can be completely consumed by passivity.

I actually really like my mars square neptune aspect... I don't think I've really felt it's negativity. I just feel it's positive.

posted September 06, 2013 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Kero, your family's Neptune similarities point to genetics imo. It's similar in my family with Neptune and Pisces.

It could be the same with any planet. Like, in some families it's Pluto. The dad will be Scorpio, the mom will have a sun conjunct Pluto, the kids will have various aspects to Pluto from personal planets or luminaries, or they will have Scorpio prominent in their charts. It indicates Scorpio traits run in the family.

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What's your asteroid DNA doing?
Mine conjuncts neptune and uranus exact.

My dad has sun conjunct uranus and my sisters luminaries conjunct neptune/uranus.

posted September 06, 2013 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
What's your asteroid DNA doing?
Mine conjuncts neptune and uranus exact.

My dad has sun conjunct uranus and my sisters luminaries conjunct neptune/uranus.

My sisters dna aspects neptune and uranus.

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posted September 06, 2013 02:25 PM            

I've made a victim of myself in the past, and been quite self-destructive--in relationships, and life in general.

But somehow I continued to keep putting one foot in front of the other, getting back up again after a fall, and dusting myself off until I was finally able to channel it in more constructive ways. But it took a LONG time for that to happen.

I try to channel the spiritual side of Neptune now, as I am involved in my daily spiritual life and more aware of the energies around me.
If I have a second, I paint. Sometimes I just color with my son and listen to music, because that's all I have time for, but whatever works.

I also work hands-on in social services, where I can offer my empathy and understanding of how painful life can be--but at the end of my shift I can go home, and I don't have to carry anyone's problems or issues with me.

I still have irrational crushes and daydreams, but they don't bother me too much because I just acknowledge the reality of the situation. Besides being married now, I can just tell if someone wouldn't be into me or if they are a big red flag. I'm faithful to my husband, but allow myself to have crushes.

I think, all in all, that my Saturn trine Sun, square Pluto (it gives determination, for sure) and Pluto sextile Neptune have kicked the detrimental aspects of Neptune in my life to the curb for the most part. But not always. There are nights when I have a little more to drink than I probably should, and sit up and listen to music. Oh well.

I'm sorry that you're having such a hard time with it right now, and I hope things get better for you.

I also agree with the writing, and creative expression. There's a great quote by Kurt Vonnegut about going into the arts..."Dance to the radio. Tell stories. Write a poem to a friend, even a lousy poem."
That's not the full quote, but maybe still worth mentioning.

posted September 06, 2013 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thHouse:

If you want to see the Neptunian disaster that is my chart, here are the details: April 15, 1975, Moncton, Canada, 9:15 a.m.

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well i've got Neptune square my Asc,Sun,Moon,Saturn and Jupiter, and opposes my midheaven.

on the 'bright' side it sextiles my pluto, quintiles my Chiron, and trines my mean node.

also does things with the minor asteroids.....how Venus,Mars and Uranus managed to escape from my very busy natal Neptune, i don't know...but THANK THE HEAVENS for that.

On the other hand i used to and still to a less extent now, used to like writing stories for my friends often, and they all used to tell me separately (it was in email and my strange way of keeping in touch when younger ) that they loved the imagination, and couldn't imagine these things their self (in a good way though).

So yeah....Neptune, one 'foggy' planet, i know you have a lot of oppositions to, but i agree with whomever advised you to take up anything artistic as an outlet. as reality and imaginary can get blurry, including other peoples intentions to us, or who they really are compared to who we make them up to be.... sigh.....

posted September 06, 2013 02:42 PM            

I just looked at your chart and I also have Mars sq Neptune and Pluto sextile Neptune too. The biggest difference would be yours trines your Mercury and Jupiter. And i have no inconjunct to Saturn. I have Venus opp Neptune too but my moon trines my Neptune rather than opposes.

posted September 06, 2013 04:12 PM            

I just got out of a Neptunian "relationship", lol. I woke up one day and stopped projecting onto the other person. And I understood that when people say they're going to do or want to do something, but do the opposite, PAY ATTENTION!

I can offer this: strive to be honest in ALL of your dealings. No need to be hurtful in your honesty to overcompensate, but be honest at all times. It will FREE you! Also, don't look to your romantic partner to be the end-all! Develop those one-on-one relationships with friends/relatives, hell, even colleagues!

The other thing is to channel the energy properly. Neptune is not a curse, but a gift. I'm writing a book; perhaps you can also develop or delve deeper into your spirituality or the arts. I took an acting class, and I quickly discovered that it was like breathing for me, incredibly easy and innate. Write, draw, act, sculpt, meditate...and look to heal yourself in these endeavors. You'll quickly inspire everyone around you when you're true to yourself.