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posted September 17, 2013 05:16 PM            

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Most professional astrologers say the sidereal chart is the more accurate as it changes with the ecliptic/axis but the tropical does not, the tropical seems to only be accurate for where the planets and stars are ATM?
Whats your take on this?

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posted September 17, 2013 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Most professional astrologers say the sidereal chart is the more accurate as it changes with the ecliptic/axis but the tropical does not, the tropical seems to only be accurate for where the planets and stars are ATM?
Whats your take on this?

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I find that my Vedic (Sidereal) placements fit me better overall.
So I can't say for sure which is more accurate.
I believe the Tropical System though.

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posted September 18, 2013 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I find that my Vedic (Sidereal) placements fit me better overall.
So I can't say for sure which is more accurate.
I believe the Tropical System though.

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From what i've read the tropical charts are all 20degrees to advanced and the sidereal is more accurate

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posted September 18, 2013 08:25 AM            

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I'm a Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Asc, Sagittarius Moon in the sidereal, though the 13th sign interests me

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posted September 18, 2013 08:27 AM            

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I very very very much so show traits of an Ophiuchus

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posted September 18, 2013 08:28 AM            

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http://siderealist.com/

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posted September 18, 2013 08:28 AM            

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http://siderealist.com/index_ophiuchus.html

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posted September 18, 2013 09:36 AM            

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Use the sidereal chart on astro.com. I find it fits alot better

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posted September 18, 2013 11:14 AM            

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So, sidereal is used in Vedic and tropical in Western astrology?

I have tried both and tropical describes me much better. In fact, sidereal barely describes me.

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posted September 18, 2013 11:39 AM            

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The Sidereal chart is used in both Western and Vedic astrtrology though they are different and primarily by the Astronomers who record where the stars are 'NOW' and not the Tropical, which is 20degree's advanced on every aspect of the chart ... The Tropical HAS NOT taken in the procession of the equinoxes ..

That is official ^

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posted September 18, 2013 11:41 AM            

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Get your sidereal chart on Astro.com under chart selection - Zodiac - Fagan/Bradley Geocentric, Sidereal

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posted September 18, 2013 11:44 AM            

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I also believe Ophiuchus the 13th sign is official, Ptolemy originally ruined astrology back in the roman times by removing the sign of the feminine wisdom (Ophiuchus)and Astrology will be brought back into modern times by adjusting the chart to the sidereal and adapting the 13th sign into the solar signs.

In theory ...

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posted September 18, 2013 11:48 AM            

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This is my sidereal chart and what i would call the real chart ..
Scorpio Asc
Scorpio/Ophiuchus Sun (I can see this)
Sagittarius Moon (I can feel this)
Scorpio Mercury (You can see this in how i speak and type)
Libra Venus (all my friends are libras) - i have no explanation of why i get on with Libras from my tropical ...
Leo Mars
Scorpio Jupiter
Aquarius Saturn (Strong ankles and come across (not intentionally) with a superiority complex)
Sagittarius Neptune
Sagittarius Uranus
Scorpio Pluto
N.node Libra http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_06_lg.68538.59783.gif&res=100&va=&cid=ozufilejDwNIv-u1377181423

I very much so see the sidereal as the accurate chart and the tropical is atm, inaccurate..

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posted September 18, 2013 11:58 AM            

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how different tropical and sidereal are for me:

tropical:
sun aries
moon sagg
asc virgo
mars taurus

sidereal:
sun aries
moon scorpio
asc leo
mars aries

and a lot of other different aspects. I'm sorry what ? I'm supposed to be a totally different person ??? Weird thing that astrology is, and confusing as hell too.
Can anyone tell me which one should I believe? Or is it completely my choise?

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posted September 18, 2013 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
how different tropical and sidereal are for me:

tropical:
sun aries
moon sagg
asc virgo
mars taurus

sidereal:
sun aries
moon scorpio
asc leo
mars aries

and a lot of other different aspects. I'm sorry what ? I'm supposed to be a totally different person ??? Weird thing that astrology is, and confusing as hell too.
Can anyone tell me which one should I believe? Or is it completely my choise?

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In my opinion the sidereal, though it's totally your choice, but if you look it up, like i just said the tropical hasn't taken in the changes to the chart, like the sidereal has. So from my research(and i do this alot)

The sidereal is correct and the tropical is not

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posted September 18, 2013 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
how different tropical and sidereal are for me:

tropical:
sun aries
moon sagg
asc virgo
mars taurus

sidereal:
sun aries
moon scorpio
asc leo
mars aries

and a lot of other different aspects. I'm sorry what ? I'm supposed to be a totally different person ??? Weird thing that astrology is, and confusing as hell too.
Can anyone tell me which one should I believe? Or is it completely my choise?

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In the one that better describes you.

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posted September 18, 2013 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:

In the one that better describes you.

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Would you not rather go by the chart which is officialy true and correct?
Seriously look it up, its a very known thing that the tropical chart hasn't taken in the up to date allignments

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posted September 18, 2013 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:

In the one that better describes you.

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Would you not rather go by the chart which is officialy true and correct?
Seriously look it up, its a very known thing that the tropical chart hasn't taken in the up to date allignments

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posted September 18, 2013 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Would you not rather go by the chart which is officialy true and correct?
Seriously look it up, its a very known thing that the tropical chart hasn't taken in the up to date allignments

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As I said, I'm way better described by tropical chart. If I wasn't, I wouldn't never believe that astrology is correct. Because I first interpreted my tropical chart and said: This is me! This can't be coincidence! I discovered sidereal chart much latter and it isn't that correct in describing my personality. If sidereal chart is the real one, I officially give up astrology.

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posted September 18, 2013 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
As I said, I'm way better described by tropical chart. If I wasn't, I wouldn't never believe that astrology is correct. Because I first interpreted my tropical chart and said: This is me! This can't be coincidence! I discovered sidereal chart much latter and it isn't that correct in describing my personality. If sidereal chart is the real one, I officially give up astrology.

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Lol, well officially, The tropical chart is still semi-correct is the correlation between your personal chart and where the planets are now, the sidereal doesn't do this and this was the original function of the tropical chart, but if you look into how ptomely changed the chart it does very much so give evidence to the side that the sidereal is very much so the more accurate chart, maybe you put in the wrong perception towards interpreting the chart, because i know i did
It's an annoying thing because its not posted as completely official, people still use the tropical, but as soon as you look into it slightly indepth you will see why i now and others back the sidereal!

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posted September 18, 2013 12:19 PM            

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You can see from the way i speak their is a Scorpio Mercury influence along with a Diplomatic Libra(Venus + N.node Libra) check both sides influence ...

In the tropical chart i have no Libra atall and am actually an Air void ...

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posted September 18, 2013 12:21 PM            

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I'm also ment to be a Capricorn Moon in the tropical, Sagittarius in the sidereal, i am very free-loving and philosophic and very strongly have an emotional need for excercise .. i really don't fit a Capricorn Moon, but i guess for other people theirs gonna be things tilting them towards the tropical, i'd say have a look into it yourself

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posted September 18, 2013 12:21 PM            

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I'm also ment to be a Capricorn Moon in the tropical, Sagittarius in the sidereal, i am very free-loving and philosophic and very strongly have an emotional need for excercise .. i really don't fit a Capricorn Moon, but i guess for other people theirs gonna be things tilting them towards the tropical, i'd say have a look into it yourself

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posted September 18, 2013 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
http://siderealist.com/index_ophiuchus.html

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lol this site..

Meanwhile, Taurus romps. Taurus is the body as god; the mind immersed, the body enjoyed; Taurus is at home within the body and accepts all its functions as self-discovery. Taurus revels in sex, eating, sleeping, even the less appealing activities, sweating, ******** and slobbering; nothing about the body or what comes from it is off-putting. The Taurus’ first and last love is the body, the initial way the Taurus connects love with ownership. If Taurus loves its own body, it’s assumed you will, too, and they want you to prove it—Taurus loves receiving oral sex. The secret of the Taurus sex appeal is a total commitment to all that the body can experience, to go the last mile for pleasure. On those terms, who wouldn’t want to **** a Taurus? Few people turn them down.

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posted September 18, 2013 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I find that my Vedic (Sidereal) placements fit me better overall.
So I can't say for sure which is more accurate.
I believe the Tropical System though.

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