posted September 21, 2013 09:02 PM            

And does this aspect play out right away (like venus/mars) or does it unravel? If so, how long?

How does Pluto feel towards Venus?

posted September 21, 2013 10:35 PM            

Pluto loves venus on a core/soul level. How this can go bad is venus not realizing this or if venus ever gives Pluto a reason to feel betrayed. Then Pluto will force itself to destroy what it felt so deeply. It can be intense.

posted September 22, 2013 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
@12th, Does he have natal Moon/Pluto or venus/Pluto?
He sounds like Someone who'd have moon/Pluto..

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His Venus trines his own Pluto, and his Moon (without knowing his exact time of birth) squares his Pluto (though it might not if his time of birth is different from what I picked since I don't know it).

posted September 22, 2013 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Because the constant "thanks i needed this" is something I've noticed with people who have moon/Pluto (or Pluto touching personal planets. especially harsh aspects). They hold back and hide soo much, that when they find that one person whom they can trust enough to open up to, it's like taking a deep breath and 'finally' relaxing... It's like therapy lol.

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posted September 22, 2013 01:04 AM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
His Aqua Venus also conjuncts my Aqua Moon by about a 6 degree orb.

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posted September 22, 2013 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
That's an awesome aspect in synastry. It's my favorite one. I feel like an aspect like this, is a blessing to a to a Plutonian moon person (or a Plutonian person), Because this aspect (moon/Venus) has that 'confidant' and super comfortable/cuddly feeling to it. I'm a Pluto moon person, and i had the moon/Venus aspect with a guy (romantic), and it was amazing. He's the only person I've ever confided personal things with..the closeness between us..Just amazing. Do you have Venus/Jupiter too with him? I find it very similar too moon/Venus. Although moon Venus feels ALOT more personal, And emotional. Venus/Jupiter has a strong 'feel good' vibe to it. Enjoying each others company. Same or similar sense of humor.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Hmm. jupiter conjunct Asc is something I've yet to experience.. I wonder how that plays out. Was he able to talk about those personal things with you, early on in your friendship with him? Or was that a long while after being friends? Has this been a strictly friendship relationship? Or has it ever been a romantic one? The kind of aspects you've mentioned so far would be great in romantic synastry lol.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by starrystratosphere:
This is heavy. The way I have experienced it at least.

Pluto loves venus on a core/soul level. How this can go bad is venus not realizing this or if venus ever gives Pluto a reason to feel betrayed. Then Pluto will force itself to destroy what it felt so deeply. It can be intense.

I'm sure there is a positive version if this also where it is very soulful and both people understand it and can handle it.

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This is my experience of this aspect too. I have it at one degree with someone i am moving on from now. He is the pluto and i am the venus ~ so heavy and i am feeling relieved to be getting out of it on one hand and devestated to be letting it go on the other. I find it very disturbing, kind of a *never again* feeling

posted September 22, 2013 09:47 AM            

I think this aspect is over rated unless theres other aspects to bind two people.

Yes we were together for 6 years and had a daughter.

He was married.

Abandoned our daughter in feb 2012

We were obsessed. Both ways.

posted September 22, 2013 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Because the constant "thanks i needed this" is something I've noticed with people who have moon/Pluto (or Pluto touching personal planets. especially harsh aspects). They hold back and hide soo much all the time, that when they find that one person whom they can trust enough to open up to, it's like taking a deep breath and 'finally' relaxing... It's like therapy lol.

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Funny, I'm a Pluto/Moon person natally--and I definitely only have a few friends that I really open with--and it definitely feels therapeutic--like a breath of fresh air.

I see that a lot of people wrote about their aspects with others at tight orbs...but my question is more around the wider orbs.. I have 2 people in my life that have a Pluto/Venus synastry with me (one at 3.5, and 5.5 orbs)--and wanted to see if these get felt by them or if this is too wide.

And if so, how does the Pluto person feel towards the Venus person?

posted September 22, 2013 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by redshoes:
This is my experience of this aspect too. I have it at one degree with someone i am moving on from now. He is the pluto and i am the venus ~ so heavy and i am feeling relieved to be getting out of it on one hand and devestated to be letting it go on the other. I find it very disturbing, kind of a *never again* feeling

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For me it is not a " never again " feeling. There is a closeness or attachment which feels like a very settled bond. I do not resent it at all. It is more so a feeling of comfort and confinement.

Do you feel that as the venus person the pluto person constricts you in some way? Just trying to get a better understating.

posted September 22, 2013 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by starrystratosphere:
For me it is not a " never again " feeling. There is a closeness or attachment which feels like a very settled bond. I do not resent it at all. It is more so a feeling of comfort and confinement.

Do you feel that as the venus person the pluto person constricts you in some way? Just trying to get a better understating.

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I wouldnt want to be with another man with this aspect.

posted September 22, 2013 05:37 PM            

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I wouldnt want to be with another man with this aspect.

Yes he totally (tries) to control me..it feels heavy, unhealthy and suffocating at times...i am a freedom loving person and he has kind of drained me. I have to finish it or else i could become quite sick. I dont actually think to be *confined* by anyone is healthy

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Yeah this is exactly why they say venus-Pluto aspects are hard. It is nobody's fault really. Venus wants to be venus, free with its love nature. Pluto wants a deeper bond, a truer more soulful one.

posted September 22, 2013 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
I guess that it depends. Pluto moves slowly, so everyone around your age shares almost the same Pluto degrees/sign. Although of course, it still is part of our charts and so it's still part of ourselves.

It's important to see how relevant Pluto is in the Pluto person's chart. Of course, someone's personal planets touching the other person's Pluto is going to have some relevance (in a generational way to see things, maybe you can say that Venus person's values and affectionate ways are in harmony with the Pluto's generational symbolism), but it is going to be more relevant if Pluto itself is relevant in the Pluto person's chart (simply speaking, Plutonian people with heavy Pluto aspects in their charts are probably more reactive to synastry aspects to their Pluto).

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Idk if its that Pluto people are more reactive, I think its because since the person deals with these energies natally, they can usually handle the same energy in synastry, better than those who lack Pluto..

posted September 22, 2013 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by starrystratosphere:
Yeah this is exactly why they say venus-Pluto aspects are hard. It is nobody's fault really. Venus wants to be venus, free with its love nature. Pluto wants a deeper bond, a truer more soulful one.

I meant confinement in the sense that there is no more need to search for love. You are happy in that love. No one should feel tied down or drained, so if the feelings of restriction are there on your part then it's better to free yourself. I wish you the best with it.

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No i am not free in my love nature, just in my expressions when in a relationship, whereas he, the pluto was very closed. Sorry i was taking *confined* as the literal meaning of restricted, maybe i misunderstood you. Thanks for the luck...it is over apart from a bit of shouting . I needed it at the time, but now i have done quite a lot of work on myself, i dont

posted September 22, 2013 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:

I have Pluto aspecting some of my personal planets natally, Venus/conjunct Pluto included, and for me to react to the same aspect in synastry, it had to be no more than a 2 degree orb. Especially with people born 2-3 years before, or after me..Yet with people born in the early 80s and back, I can feel a 4-6 degree orb with synastry Venus/Pluto aspects..me definitely being responsive to it...though usually my synastry with people from the mid 70s to early 80s, has heavy Pluto influence. So maybe its the extra Pluto aspects that grab my attention soo strongly..I've had the Venus/Pluto double whammy in synastry before... Wow ...But I've only had this once.

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