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Odette
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posted September 23, 2013 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I judge

... after I pick up on vibes.

In virtue of being human and the human brain's neurological structure - we all make judgements

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VenusDiSirius
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posted September 23, 2013 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I love how people try defend the exaltion/detriment rules with negative traits that all placements possess lmfao.

I guess people are overly attached to their exalted planets or possibly a superiority complex.

Here's some negative traits about mercury in gemini/virgo that suck as much as mercury in pisces

for gemini
procrastination
deceitful
often sounds annoying
or really nervous and restless with their speech pattern


For virgo
Too critical
narrow minded
sounds boring
Know it all's

I have mercury in gemini and I'm quite slow, so much for lighting quick Gemini speed.
Ironically my boyfriend with mercury in pisces has a crazy high IQ and I usually ask him about technical things lololol


Except for procrastination (not a Gemini thing) ,and annoying/boring being very subjective, every trait you named is a negative side to Mercury not Neptune. They may suck, but they suck mercurial-ly. With Pisces and Sagittarius, you enter a different territory. Is it ridiculous to expect that one may not feel comfortable (for the lack of better wording) in that new territory? Yes, you may reap all the mundane goodies even though you don't have a domiciled planet, but does it change the fact that you started on a completely different ground? That's the point - to say "yeah, it sucked, but I made it work for me. I am different."

And that is if you're hard working, driven, challenged. What if you're an ordinary person, who just plows through life? What then? What happens with that superiority complex if you're incapable of measuring your own abilities?

Challenged people face more pits, than naturally gifted ones. If you can name that pit and even say in which direction it lies, is it that bad that description for planets in fall/detriment begins with list of bad traits? "you're warned, now be on your way"

If you negate the meaning and use behind the rulerships (domicile) and by extension detriment,fall,exaltation, how do you plan to read a chart? What will you do with the houses?

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Kerosene
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posted September 23, 2013 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant boring in speech, they usually sound anal about everything..
My dad has mercury in virgo and his constant nagging long drawn lectures were like..... painfully boring,
But gems procrastinate all the time, I mean mercury is dexterous by nature. I usually do 10 things at the same time which sometimes works wonders or completely backfires.
I'm actually ambidextrous so I'm literally able to do multiple things at the same time.

Also there is a know it all attitude that comes with virgo merc that irritates me,
Yes a lot of people are intelligent and knowledge but they are so obnoxious about it.
God forbid you ever correct them on an error, they'll usually become hostile.
While a pisces is very low key and won't vomit unnecessary information all over you unless you ask for it.

but i generally like the sweet tender and vague approach of a pisces. It's just so adorable when they try and explain things because they usually look out into the distance etc lmfao

Obviously not all gems and virgo's are not perfect but they do have great traits along with less desirable qualities.

Hmm I hope you don't have mercury in virgo or I'm going to get an ear full, right?

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VenusDiSirius
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posted September 23, 2013 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have H12 Virgo Mercury.

(I'd look at Sun/Saturn too when people start being obnoxious about their academical accomplishments. It's usually that they feel socially inadequate, or they are climbers, although this a cultural thing, may not be obvious in US as it is across the ocean).

Maybe Pisces Mercury does some mighty work in your chart?

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Kerosene
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posted September 23, 2013 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house merc? you can't be so bad!!!!!

12th house rules hidden talents, are you a secret genius perhaps?

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VenusDiSirius
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posted September 23, 2013 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
12th house merc? you can't be so bad!!!!!

12th house rules hidden talents, are you a secret genius perhaps?


My thinking exactly.

Oh, flattery!! Did somethingexcellent school you how to beguile?

It's great for picking up themes, symbolism, writing...

It's very mood - based. I totally get Tarot card meanings,but they don't "speak" to me because I am not *really* into it, for example.

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Kerosene
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posted September 23, 2013 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct mercury, it comes easy to me.

For some reason I feel compelled to get along with you, maybe my jupiter conjuncts your mercury and I do get along with people with virgo placements that touch my jupiter

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VenusDiSirius
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posted September 23, 2013 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Jupiter contacts. 18°.

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Kerosene
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posted September 23, 2013 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
18-7= too wide

NOW BE GONE!!!!!

but congrats your mercury trines my uranus and neptune we're in a for a world of misunderstandings or possibly many wonderful realizations.

At least our mercs don't square..

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posted September 23, 2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have always suspected Lana Del Rey a Virgo riser. Jupiter-Asc aspect is heavenly. #foodforthought

I feel obligated to give you something. So, there!

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Kerosene
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posted September 23, 2013 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point, my favorite youtube comment from her is

People with virgo placements are aware of all their flaws and will usually mention them before others point them out lol.

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posted September 23, 2013 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think an unaspected mercury can be very interesting... cause there is nothing that defines it! It's then up to the person to define whats going on with their communication skills! Or maybe it could mean that your mercury isn't that strong in your chart, so you just communicate as good/bad as everyone else in a way...

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11nahyt
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posted September 23, 2013 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmfao, accurate^^ @kero ...omg I've seen them do it many times.. " I know my nose is too big.. But her a55 is too saggy,,yada yada "

My moms a Virgo asc, and she does that too.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2013 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I love how people try defend the exaltion/detriment rules with negative traits that all placements possess lmfao.

I guess people are overly attached to their exalted planets or possibly a superiority complex.

Here's some negative traits about mercury in gemini/virgo that suck as much as mercury in pisces

for gemini
procrastination
deceitful
often sounds annoying
or really nervous and restless with their speech pattern


For virgo
Too critical
narrow minded
sounds boring
Know it all's

I have mercury in gemini and I'm quite slow, so much for lighting quick Gemini speed.
Ironically my boyfriend with mercury in pisces has a crazy high IQ and I usually ask him about technical things lololol


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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2013 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think an unaspected mercury can be very interesting... cause there is nothing that defines it! It's then up to the person to define whats going on with their communication skills!

Bingo!

I like how you worded that. *I* define my communication style - total truth. Not some Bozo who *thinks* they understand Pisces better than the Pisces could ever understand themselves.


@Kerosene
"but i generally like the sweet tender and vague approach of a pisces. It's just so adorable when they try and explain things because they usually look out into the distance etc lmfao"

I do sometimes look off into the distance while speaking.

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posted September 23, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
There's nothing for me to prove. LOL

You simply don't want to get it. And that's fine by me.


Thats all well and good unless the burden of proof is on you, and you need it to save your life.

"You simply don't want to get it" Who doesn't want to get what exactly?

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posted September 23, 2013 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

There's no judgement involved whatsoever. Pisces don't judge (especially not character). They pick up on mood and atmosphere. They rely on intuition. Intuition is not Mercury's domain.



Precisely.

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IrisRainbow
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posted September 23, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My half sister has mercury in pisces conjunct moon/sun in aries and she's all about bad gossip.Not nice but some other people i've met are okay,it all depends I guess.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
My half sister has mercury in pisces conjunct moon/sun in aries and she's all about bad gossip.Not nice but some other people i've met are okay,it all depends I guess.


Pretty much. Any sign can be a 'gossip'. That isn't a Pisces thing in particular.

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Odette
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posted September 23, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Case study:

University class. Female teacher. Middle aged. Has a very strict, organised, no non-sense approach. Has strong expectations that the students will behave in a way that conforms to University rules and also classic 'good manners'.
Quite apart from being strict she is a strongly passionate and emotional person and self-declared hardcore feminist. For better or worse due to having such an emotional side to her personality - when she takes things the wrong way she can sometimes develop a bias towards that student (eg male student made comment about how - having a set number of places for female judges would not be a good idea ... Arguably, this was a counter-feminist perspective. This teacher was patronising and clearly disliked the student from that moment onwards)

I (Aries Sun Pisces Mercury) was in her class.
My friend (Libra Sun Libra Mercury) was also in her class.
A third friend (Capricorn Sun Aquarius Mercury) likewise took the same class.

Class ends.

Fast forward a year. I remember her personality very clearly as well as her expectations and her biases. My two friends remember literally nothing about her personality that would be of any use to them.

We now have a second class with this teacher and both of my friends have just effectively shot themselves in the foot by making anti-feminist comments (that were not even strongly anti-feminist but would be perceived that way by this teacher... which I am perfectly aware of, whereby they are blissfully unaware).

I am pretty sure that following these comments her bias will kick in and this may well affect them academically.

Do they have any clue whatsoever that this will happen?
Nope.. They are blissfully clueless.

If I warned them or if I explained the situation to them, do you think they would believe me?

Nope. Because they are too rational to believe me. They are not nearly as emotional as this teacher and they have absolutely no idea as to what goes on in her mind.
They also think that everyone is as airy and detached as they are and that everyone has just as much personal integrity.
Well this teacher does not. As I said she can be biased.

If I told them what I think - they may well respond by saying that I am exaggerating or imagining things.
After all I have absolutely no tangible proof that this is the case. In fact - the teacher herself would vehemently deny it and perhaps she is even lying to herself about it. Many people are not so comfortable with admitting to their own biases and their own shortcomings.

And even so - with that all said... with my lack of proof and so on... this will nonetheless affect my two friends.
Out here in the real world things keep on keeping on.
Choosing to believe something is not the case because you "don't have proof" - will not make the thing go away.

They would've simply been better off if they had said nothing at all and kept quiet on the topic.


^^ The End...

And this is why having a Pisces Mercury can be a really good thing - some days

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 23, 2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great example!! Spot on...as you usually are.

Odette you are quite articulate 'for a Pisces'.

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Odette
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posted September 23, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha thank you sweetie!!

Please don't quote that though because I'll edit it out later.

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Brendan34
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posted September 24, 2013 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I have Mercury-Pisces in the 6th House. I've read about how this placement causes "confusion" and how I am apparently afraid of "facts". I'm naive & unable to speak up for myself, they say.

This has been one of the most inaccurate B-S descriptions I have ever read about myself. Seriously!! I do not struggle to speak up for myself. I wisely pick my battles now, actually. But years ago, I would ROAST you like a Thanksgiving Turkey!!! I'm not built to be anyone's doormat.

My mind can indeed be on more than one thing simultaneously. I do constantly have thoughts & ideas coming to me that I want to put into action...so I do take notes & write things down sometimes, as not to forget about all these *lovely* things.

I'm an Aries-Sun, so I think that the Pisces element calms me & adds tact that I otherwise might not have had. I'm direct & honest, but I'm considerate & kind too. I'm rather intuitive, so I try my best to put myself in other people's shoes when speaking to them. I can be sensitive at times, yes. But I'm mature enough not to let that get out of control.

*So without being rude - WHY exactly is this placement such a negative to people??


My mother is an Aries with Mercury Pisces and comes across as how you describe yourself, although she can be a little abrupt sometimes.

I am a Pisces with Mercury Aries, which is funny, as if my mom and I switched places with signs. We have a lot in common generally but I can be sensitive and she can be brusque at times.

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Madpoe
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posted September 24, 2013 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Madpoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mercury is in Pisces as well, the 1st house I think. What are some placements in mercury that could understand and communicate well with mercury in pisces? Aquarius? Aries?

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 24, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brendan34:
My mother is an Aries with Mercury Pisces and comes across as how you describe yourself, although she can be a little abrupt sometimes.

I am a Pisces with Mercury Aries, which is funny, as if my mom and I switched places with signs. We have a lot in common generally but I can be sensitive and she can be brusque at times.


That's really cool. You two really balance each other out!


quote:
Originally posted by Madpoe:
My mercury is in Pisces as well, the 1st house I think. What are some placements in mercury that could understand and communicate well with mercury in pisces? Aquarius? Aries?

There are better matches for us than Aries & Aqua, I must say.

Mercury in Scorpio or in Cancer would be kindred spirits for us. I get along w/ Mercury-Taurus pretty well also.

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