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LovelyAries86
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posted September 22, 2013 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury-Pisces in the 6th House. I've read about how this placement causes "confusion" and how I am apparently afraid of "facts". I'm naive & unable to speak up for myself, they say.

This has been one of the most inaccurate B-S descriptions I have ever read about myself. Seriously!! I do not struggle to speak up for myself. I wisely pick my battles now, actually. But years ago, I would ROAST you like a Thanksgiving Turkey!!! I'm not built to be anyone's doormat.

My mind can indeed be on more than one thing simultaneously. I do constantly have thoughts & ideas coming to me that I want to put into action...so I do take notes & write things down sometimes, as not to forget about all these *lovely* things.

I'm an Aries-Sun, so I think that the Pisces element calms me & adds tact that I otherwise might not have had. I'm direct & honest, but I'm considerate & kind too. I'm rather intuitive, so I try my best to put myself in other people's shoes when speaking to them. I can be sensitive at times, yes. But I'm mature enough not to let that get out of control.

*So without being rude - WHY exactly is this placement such a negative to people??

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Kerosene
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posted September 22, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is actually my favorite placement for mercury, you guys are really interesting.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 22, 2013 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
This is actually my favorite placement for mercury, you guys are really interesting.

Hi Kerosene.

Do you mind sharing what you find most interesting about this placement?

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next to neptune
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posted September 22, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well in itself pisces is the opposite of the ruler of mercury - virgo
So it should be the same for sag in mercury! But I think the house placement and aspect tells a bit more...and you have mercury in 6th house - of virgo
I don't personally know anyone with pisces mercury though..

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posted September 22, 2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury in Pisces at 29th Degree and I can be the most clear-headed person in most situations

But admittingly I don't do well with confusion, I NEED to have clarity and have bigger picture about things I care about to be content with the situation. This need has taught me so much in life.

And oh my mind knows no bounds though, you can pretty much expect anything from me .. So I also don't do well with structure but I LOVE having clarity .. It's all kind of a paradox..

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 22, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Well in itself pisces is the opposite of the ruler of mercury - virgo
So it should be the same for sag in mercury! But I think the house placement and aspect tells a bit more...and you have mercury in 6th house - of virgo
I don't personally know anyone with pisces mercury though..

My Mercury is unaspected, at least to my knowledge. But yes, it's in the House of Virgo.

So is the House the reason why I don't completely relate to these Pisces descriptions?

Or is it that some people don't understand this placement of Pisces well enough to explain it properly?


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Originally posted by Newrise:
I have Mercury in Pisces at 29th Degree and I can be the most clear-headed person in most situations

But admittingly I don't do well with confusion, I NEED to have clarity and have bigger picture to be content with the situation. This need has taught me so much in life.

And oh my mind knows no bounds though, you can pretty much expect anything from me .. So I also don't do well with structure but I LOVE having clarity .. It's all kind of a paradox..


Occasionally, I'll get confused. But it's not a constant in my life. The "Big Picture" is indeed very *important* for me, so we agree there.

I understand the paradox. Our brains know "no bounds" - we think in a beautiful, free-flowing, open-minded way. Not in some air-headed, lost & confused way. Get what I'm saying?!

I'm not afraid of *SOME* structure, because it's needed. However, I do not enjoy being put into a box and being completely restricted. That would not be good!!!

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posted September 22, 2013 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I have Mercury-Pisces in the 6th House. I've read about how this placement causes "confusion" and how I am apparently afraid of "facts". I'm naive & unable to speak up for myself, they say.

This has been one of the most inaccurate B-S descriptions I have ever read about myself. Seriously!! I do not struggle to speak up for myself. I wisely pick my battles now, actually. But years ago, I would ROAST you like a Thanksgiving Turkey!!! I'm not built to be anyone's doormat.

My mind can indeed be on more than one thing simultaneously. I do constantly have thoughts & ideas coming to me that I want to put into action...so I do take notes & write things down sometimes, as not to forget about all these *lovely* things.

I'm an Aries-Sun, so I think that the Pisces element calms me & adds tact that I otherwise might not have had. I'm direct & honest, but I'm considerate & kind too. I'm rather intuitive, so I try my best to put myself in other people's shoes when speaking to them. I can be sensitive at times, yes. But I'm mature enough not to let that get out of control.

*So without being rude - WHY exactly is this placement such a negative to people??


Because of a tendency to embellish very convincingly , to the point where you believe it too. Trouble with doing things in a logical order. Reading emotions or "vibes" rather than listening to words. Misunderstanding or and misinterpreting what's being said is also common especially if you're in a crowded place.

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posted September 22, 2013 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astrochologist:
Because of a tendency to embellish very convincingly , to the point where you believe it too. Trouble with doing things in a logical order. Reading emotions or "vibes" rather than listening to words. Misunderstanding or and misinterpreting what's being said is also common especially if you're in a crowded place.

This is false about me.

I read people *AND* listen to them. Not one or the other. Unless you have really p!ssed me off, I want to hear everything you have to say to *AVOID* misunderstandings.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astrochologist:
Because of a tendency to embellish very convincingly , to the point where you believe it too. Trouble with doing things in a logical order. Reading emotions or "vibes" rather than listening to words. Misunderstanding or and misinterpreting what's being said is also common especially if you're in a crowded place.

What is wrong in reading vibes and emotions? Words can deceive people, vibes can’t, so who are the ones who are actually getting deceived? mercury in Pisces or the rest?

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posted September 22, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astrochologist:
Misunderstanding or and misinterpreting what's being said is also common especially if you're in a crowded place.

That's a vague statement because we all can misunderstand each other, even synastry suggests this.
Certainly people with mercury in water signs can easily understand mercury in Pisces.

I agree with the rest but I don't see it as being a major disadvantage.
This is why I don't really believe in planets in fall or debilitation being all that bad, it all depends on personal preference.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think being in 6th house can help your mercury a lot , as you will be able to deal with facts as well as spiritual things , just try to find the right balance.

Just try to get a brief idea about the placement from those type of desriptions, it depends upon lot of things, house position, aspects, dispositor etc.

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LovelyAries86
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posted September 22, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
What is wrong in reading vibes and emotions? Words can deceive people, vibes can’t, so who are the ones who are actually getting deceived? mercury in Pisces or the rest?

My thoughts exactly.

The ability to read people is NOT something that can be taught, it's a gift...not a 'fantasy'. The ability to see the UNSEEN is powerful. That should never be frowned upon!

Grand idiotic assumptions or constant overreaction is different, and that's another matter. If a Pisces-person is doing that, then I'd get it.

BTW...you described me perfectly - I can deal w/ facts & spirituality EQUALLY.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
That's a vague statement because we all can misunderstand each other, even synastry suggests this.
Certainly people with mercury in water signs can easily understand mercury in Pisces.

I agree with the rest but I don't see it as being a major disadvantage.
This is why I don't really believe in planets in fall or debilitation being all that bad, it all depends on personal preference.


I'm totally with you on the whole "fall" concept. Anywhere in astrology, I loathe that! I think it's insulting & ignorant to assume that certain signs are awful, while others are awesome.

There are "preferences" and there's nothing wrong with that! But there aren't necessarily any "perfect" placements. Each will have their negatives & positives.

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posted September 22, 2013 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
There are "preferences" and there's nothing wrong with that! But there aren't necessarily any "perfect" placements. Each will have their negatives & positives.

Not preferences but rulerships.

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Odette
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posted September 22, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LovelyAries - it's not such a difficult placement because Pisces energy can chameleonize into all the other signs including Gemini and Virgo. 'Faking it' might not be quite as good as the original, but the Piscean acting skill is quite useful nonetheless. For example, when trying to impress someone (like your boss) it helps when you can "speak their language".
It's a good placement in particular, for conflict resolution - helping opposing parties come to an amicable understanding. I would say Pisces Merc does even better than Libra Merc in this kind of situation.

Also the actual planetary ruler of Virgo has not yet been identified. Most astrologers agree that Mercury should go to Gemini. So Mercury is kind of pseudo-dignified in Virgo and pseudo-detriment in Pisces.

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posted September 22, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ability to read people and be a good judge of character (which you mentioned earlier) also helps in conflict resolution.

Don't try to show off with your skills though because many people have no understanding of Piscean waters.. It seems like uncharted territory.
So always use your skills to your advantage and make them work for you - but don't show off or explain yourself to others.

The same people who are skeptical when you show off about a skill - like being a good judge of character... are the people who will ask you, in sheer astonishment:
"WoW how did you know that would happen?" - after the event...
or
"WoW how did you even manage to get us out of this mess? I thought we were gone!!"

So honestly don't bother explaining anything. Just be who you are and use your gifts and skills as everyone else does. The rest of the world is not really on a need to know basis. Magicians never give away their tricks with good reason.

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posted September 22, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Hi LovelyAries - it's not such a difficult placement because Pisces energy can chameleonize.

For example, when trying to impress someone (like your boss) it helps when you can "speak their language".

It's a good placement in particular, for conflict resolution - helping opposing parties come to an amicable understanding. I would say Pisces Merc does even better than Libra Merc in this kind of situation.


*applause*

Now that was an excellent response. This is spot on!

I'm *not* a liar, too real for that. However, I can 'act' when I need to. I know how to be true to MYSELF, while being adaptable enough to mix & mingle with whoever my company is. I am pretty good at mediating also...so, yeah.

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posted September 22, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
The ability to read people and be a good judge of character (which you mentioned earlier) also helps in conflict resolution.

Don't try to show off with your skills though because many people have no understanding of Piscean waters.. It seems like uncharted territory.
So always use your skills to your advantage and make them work for you - but don't show off or explain yourself to others.

The same people who are skeptical when you show off about a skill - like being a good judge of character... are the people who will ask you, in sheer astonishment:
"WoW how did you know that would happen?" - after the event...
or
"WoW how did you even manage to get us out of this mess? I thought we were gone!!"

So honestly don't bother explaining anything. Just be who you are and use your gifts and skills as everyone else does. The rest of the world is not really on a need to know basis. Magicians never give away their tricks with good reason.


Just for you...

You get it completely. I feel like bringing a church choir in here. That's how spectacular that response was! LOL

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posted September 23, 2013 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
What is wrong in reading vibes and emotions? Words can deceive people, vibes can’t, so who are the ones who are actually getting deceived? mercury in Pisces or the rest?

Where did I say there was anything "wrong" ? Is your Mercury in Pisces?

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posted September 23, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
That's a vague statement because we all can misunderstand each other, even synastry suggests this.
Certainly people with mercury in water signs can easily understand mercury in Pisces.

I agree with the rest but I don't see it as being a major disadvantage.
This is why I don't really believe in planets in fall or debilitation being all that bad, it all depends on personal preference.


They are "bad". But everyone has challenges in some form or another.

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posted September 23, 2013 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrochologist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
My thoughts exactly.

The ability to read people is NOT something that can be taught, it's a gift...not a 'fantasy'. The ability to see the UNSEEN is powerful. That should never be frowned upon!

Grand idiotic assumptions or constant overreaction is different, and that's another matter. If a Pisces-person is doing that, then I'd get it.

BTW...you described me perfectly - I can deal w/ facts & spirituality EQUALLY.


The only problem with being able to see the unseen, is that you may be the only one who sees it, and if that's the case and maybe you can't prove it . Well, that's why Mercury is in detriment there.

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posted September 23, 2013 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astrochologist:
The only problem with being able to see the unseen, is that you may be the only one who sees it, and if that's the case and maybe you can't prove it . Well, that's why Mercury is in detriment there.


There's nothing for me to prove. LOL

You simply don't want to get it. And that's fine by me.

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posted September 23, 2013 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
The ability to read people and be a good judge of character (which you mentioned earlier) also helps in conflict resolution.

Don't try to show off with your skills though because many people have no understanding of Piscean waters.. It seems like uncharted territory.
So always use your skills to your advantage and make them work for you - but don't show off or explain yourself to others.

The same people who are skeptical when you show off about a skill - like being a good judge of character... are the people who will ask you, in sheer astonishment:
"WoW how did you know that would happen?" - after the event...
or
"WoW how did you even manage to get us out of this mess? I thought we were gone!!"

So honestly don't bother explaining anything. Just be who you are and use your gifts and skills as everyone else does. The rest of the world is not really on a need to know basis. Magicians never give away their tricks with good reason.



There's no judgement involved whatsoever. Pisces don't judge (especially not character). They pick up on mood and atmosphere. They rely on intuition. Intuition is not Mercury's domain.

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posted September 23, 2013 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astrochologist:
Where did I say there was anything "wrong" ? Is your Mercury in Pisces?

But you’ve put it in the list of “negative” traits of mercury in Pisces.

Yes, my mercury is in Pisces. What’s your mercury sign? mercury in Virgo?mercury in an earth sign? I sense mercury/saturn as well.

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posted September 23, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love how people try defend the exaltion/detriment rules with negative traits that all placements possess lmfao.

I guess people are overly attached to their exalted planets or possibly a superiority complex.

Here's some negative traits about mercury in gemini/virgo that suck as much as mercury in pisces

for gemini
procrastination
deceitful
often sounds annoying
or really nervous and restless with their speech pattern


For virgo
Too critical
narrow minded
sounds boring
Know it all's

I have mercury in gemini and I'm quite slow, so much for lighting quick Gemini speed.
Ironically my boyfriend with mercury in pisces has a crazy high IQ and I usually ask him about technical things lololol

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