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Topic: Astrology is dangerous.
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Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 01:56 PM
  
Astrology is dangerous because it can influence your mind to look at your relationships and people in a negative light based off of their aspects and/or sign placements when in actuality, a lot of people who study and use astrology, have no real educational background on such an in depth subject which makes their findings a small piece of person's character or not an accurate description at all. This false information will then create imaginary false character flaws and situations within their relationships and the people in their lives. Astrology can ruin relationships instead of strengthen them if you're not careful. Most of the time, there's no birth time to do an accurate chart analysis and even if there is, unless you go to an educated astrology and get an actual reading done, everything might not be accurate. You also have to take into account that everyone is different and have different backgrounds which plays a major role in someone's personality and upbringing. Also, different people have different morals and values despite what a certain aspect or Venus placement might suggest about their personality. Astrology doesn't factor in free will. What do you guys think?IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 29, 2013 02:03 PM
Astrology should not be defined by the way certain people choose to use it. IP: Logged |
Emily033
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posted September 29, 2013 02:05 PM
I feel it can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Like for someone with mental issues. I knew a guy who was obsessed with astrology archetypes and was thoroughly convinced that I was Persephone incarnate, because of my Venus/Pluto conjunct ascendant.
He also convinced himself he was given the role to be Pluto.
He would implicate that he was meant to abduct me etc.
It was ridiculously funny.IP: Logged |
NandiNode
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posted September 29, 2013 02:05 PM
A little knowledge is always a dangerous thing and humility and flexibility of mind are good things. Staying open to learning more and listening well are good things. Applies to pretty much every subject as far as I'm concerned. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 02:06 PM
I agree, but what I'm trying to get is, the dangerous in it comes from the fact that these thoughts after reading certain aspects might be subconscious. You might be subs consciously sabotaging your relationships without realizing it.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted September 29, 2013 02:08 PM
Astrology is just an unorthodox religion, it's still a belief system though so might as well go ahead and lump all religions in as being dangerous, not just astrology.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted September 29, 2013 02:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I agree, but what I'm trying to get is, the dangerous in it comes from the fact that these thoughts after reading certain aspects might be subconscious. You might be subs consciously sabotaging your relationships without realizing it.
But it can be used to improve relationships too. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted September 29, 2013 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by NandiNode:
A little knowledge is always a dangerous thing and humility and flexibility of mind are good things. Staying open to learning more and listening well are good things. Applies to pretty much every subject as far as I'm concerned.
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Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 02:10 PM
I never looked at it that way. That's a very interesting point. Now I have no choice, but to shut down and look at it from that point of view. Astrology is an unorthodox religion.. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted September 29, 2013 02:12 PM
Astrology is enlightenment.
Look at the number of people who commit suicide during their Saturn Return.
Perhaps if they had known about it they would have understood that it's just a long phase of hard trials and that "this too shall pass."
I disagree firmly.
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Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 02:12 PM
It can improve relationships. I do agree with that also. I apologize for making this argument one-sided because I am aware of how Astrology is beneficial in all areas of life. I just want to know what you guys think about the potential dangers of such a deep and complex topic. I'm very curious to hear your responses.IP: Logged |
DialecticLady
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posted September 29, 2013 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Astrology should not be defined by the way certain people choose to use it.
100% agree! IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 02:14 PM
So I guess the only way Astrology can be dangerous is by the lack of knowledge someone has on the subject? For example, I've been studying and learning about Astrology for nearly a decade and everything is still confusing and new to me. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady
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posted September 29, 2013 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Emily033:
I feel it can be dangerous in the wrong hands. Like for someone with mental issues. I knew a guy who was obsessed with astrology archetypes and was thoroughly convinced that I was Persephone incarnate, because of my Venus/Pluto conjunct ascendant.
He also convinced himself he was given the role to be Pluto.
He would implicate that he was meant to abduct me etc.
It was ridiculously funny.
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Libracorn
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From: Born in Saturn, grew up in Venus
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posted September 29, 2013 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Astrology is just an unorthodox religion, it's still a belief system though so might as well go ahead and lump all religions in as being dangerous, not just astrology.
Astrology isn't a religion to everyone, it can be looked at as a science or art. I look at it as a science. I'm a Christian, but I don't feel that astrology is a religion in my book. But everyone has different opinions and beliefs, so....
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hannaramaa
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posted September 29, 2013 02:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Yanmorg:
So I guess the only way Astrology can be dangerous is by the lack of knowledge someone has on the subject? For example, I've been studying and learning about Astrology for nearly a decade and everything is still confusing and new to me.
It's just dangerous when you let it override your free will. IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted September 29, 2013 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Astrology is enlightenment.
Look at the number of people who commit suicide during their Saturn Return.
Perhaps if they had known about it they would have understood that it's just a long phase of hard trials and that "this too shall pass."
I disagree firmly.
Very true, along with alot of singer deaths during their Lunar Return. Probably could have handled it better if they knew about Astrology. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted September 29, 2013 02:20 PM
How can Astrology be an art? I can see why some would consider it a Scirnce or even a Religion, but an Art? That never crossed my mind. That's interesting.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted September 29, 2013 02:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Yanmorg:
So I guess the only way Astrology can be dangerous is by the lack of knowledge someone has on the subject? For example, I've been studying and learning about Astrology for nearly a decade and everything is still confusing and new to me.
I have the same feeling. I understand nothing about yods, angles and the million new asteroids (seems there's a new one every month!) and I've been studying for a decade as well.
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DialecticLady
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posted September 29, 2013 02:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Yanmorg:
So I guess the only way Astrology can be dangerous is by the lack of knowledge someone has on the subject? For example, I've been studying and learning about Astrology for nearly a decade and everything is still confusing and new to me.
I guess it can be dangerous if we use astrology as a single determinant of one's personality.This is fanaticism and I think all kinds of fanaticism are dangerous, not astrology. IP: Logged |
Libracorn
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posted September 29, 2013 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
How can Astrology be an art? I can see why some would consider it a Scirnce or even a Religion, but an Art? That never crossed my mind. That's interesting.
I don't know, but some people do, that's why I included it. I don't see it as an art either. ------------------
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hannaramaa
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posted September 29, 2013 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
How can Astrology be an art? I can see why some would consider it a Scirnce or even a Religion, but an Art? That never crossed my mind. That's interesting.
Astrology takes a certain amount of intuition to be successful at, especially when you get into erecting charts or reading Horary, predictive methods - like Tarot, it's a talent and not everybody has it. I can see how it's an art, a science, and a religion - but science tends to be proven. Non-believers of Astrology tend to reject it because they don't understand, which is very similar to why they reject religion. There is choice in religion, there is no choice in science because it is fact.
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Leocassandra
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posted September 29, 2013 02:25 PM
It makes me mad...I agree 100% that a little bit of knowledge is dangerouse the same as knowledge being in wrong hands but astrology always gets very easily dismissed by other people. Few people or no one is dismissing chemistry when someone made/is making a bomb etc...IP: Logged |
NandiNode
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posted September 29, 2013 02:26 PM
The fact that you have an awareness that you could be prejudging others and subconsciously sabotaging relationships - that any of us could do that - is a good thing, right? So we/you are not entirely powerless under the influence of astrological doctrines. And the thing is, many times people who don't do any astrology at all, do the same things, they just have other things they base their assumptions on. I personally find it important to give people a chance. Analyzing others, trying to figure them out, is always a different thing than really listening to them and being in the here and now with them.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted September 29, 2013 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
Few people or no one is dismissing chemistry when someone made/is making a bomb etc...
Case in point: "there is no choice in science because it is fact." IP: Logged |
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