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charlie
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posted October 02, 2013 07:49 PM
  
Is this Pluto's doing?? I have the transit conjunct my moon in 5H, square itself, and at the moment opp. my Sun. Venus and Saturn are up next..I feel......like I want to tear my insides out and scream! I want to bang my head against wall to make whatever it is inside that wants to come out, come out! I want to peel my skin off... I have also less and less abilities to control my natural Mars in 1H (conj asc) Just no patience and aggressive. I literally feel as if I'm going crazy here  I also have Uranus transit in 8H... When I get angry I scare myself. No exaggeration! It's only happened a few times in my life but afterward I went running for miles and miles to make sure I was too tired to follow through with my anger. In my progressed chart I have Pluto conj Mars and Asc Libra. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 02, 2013 08:18 PM
What is transit Uranus doing in your natal chart? Like aspects.T-Pluto conjunct moon sounds bad. Especially if you're the type to suppress a lot, emotionally. This is going to be a longgggg transit. so hang in there..It sounds like this transit would force you to take it all 'out'. And star over. Clean slate. I mean that's what it felt like for me when t-pluto was squaring my natal placements.uranus was opp those placements too. It was a bad time for me too. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted October 02, 2013 08:22 PM
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charlie
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posted October 02, 2013 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
What is transit Uranus doing in your natal chart? Like aspects.T-Pluto conjunct moon sounds bad. Especially if you're the type to suppress a lot, emotionally. This is going to be a longgggg transit. so hang in there..It sounds like this transit would force you to take it all 'out'. And star over. Clean slate. I mean that's what it felt like for me when t-pluto was squaring my natal placements.uranus was opp those placements too. It was a bad time for me too.
tUranus is square my 5planet Cancer stellium in 11H and Moon in 5H. I am literally being bombarded by Cardinal squares here and it's killing me :-/ Houses involved are 2, 5, 8, 11. Rulers of 2 and 5H are both in 11H.
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Violets
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posted October 02, 2013 09:56 PM
Hi, Charlie.
I have a lot of Pluto/Uranus squares and conjunctions that have been back and forth for the last six years.Venus in Aries 3 d 9th house
Pluto in Libra 8 d 3rd house
Saturn in Cancer 12 d 11th house I'm sorry that you're feeling the way that you are. Do you think it could help to get in touch with how you're feeling in a positive way to do something really physical, like martial arts, or even just running, like you mentioned? Or do you have anyone who might be able to help you get in touch with, channel, and/or wait out the feelings in a healthy way? My guess is that if you try to suppress/repress your feelings at this time, it will probably feel a lot less pleasant than if you face them in the most constructive way that you can, and with the most support that you can find. Just throwing things out there, hopefully not sounding condescending or anything.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 02, 2013 10:02 PM
I'll just add here that throughout my Pluto transits recently, one of the most simple and therapeutic things I could do was to dig a garden. Like DIG a garden. With a pick ax, lol.We live in an area that was either a riverbed or glacier, so if I so much as struck the ax into the earth, I would hit some sort of boulder the size of my head or torso. And then I would unearth it. We ended up using all of the boulders to make a wall for our vegetable garden. We were going to just do raised beds, but that's kind of beside the point. I took on other projects that helped me to dig into my own psyche, but the physical labor I was doing just sort of went hand in hand with what I was doing on a psychological and spiritual level. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted October 02, 2013 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Hi, Charlie.
I have a lot of Pluto/Uranus squares and conjunctions that have been back and forth for the last six years.Venus in Aries 3 d 9th house
Pluto in Libra 8 d 3rd house
Saturn in Cancer 12 d 11th house I'm sorry that you're feeling the way that you are. Do you think it could help to get in touch with how you're feeling in a positive way to do something really physical, like martial arts, or even just running, like you mentioned? Or do you have anyone who might be able to help you get in touch with, channel, and/or wait out the feelings in a healthy way? My guess is that if you try to suppress/repress your feelings at this time, it will probably feel a lot less pleasant than if you face them in the most constructive way that you can, and with the most support that you can find. Just throwing things out there, hopefully not sounding condescending or anything.
I have a Cap Moon, suppressing feelings is what I do :-/
I used to do a lot of yoga but got injured in an accident and now I am slightly leery and perhaps lazy to start all anew. It was HARD work to reach the level I was at and I am physically tired at the moment despite accident occurring a year ago. It also doesn't help that I have come to a fork in the road in my life and I can't choose which way even if you pointed a gun at me! Or paid me money. Or pushed me in a direction. It's all come to a complete and total standstill except for these brewing and simmering feelings of wanting to peel myself off myself. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 02, 2013 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
I have a Cap Moon, suppressing feelings is what I do :-/
I used to do a lot of yoga but got injured in an accident and now I am slightly leery and perhaps lazy to start all anew. It was HARD work to reach the level I was at and I am physically tired at the moment despite accident occurring a year ago. It also doesn't help that I have come to a fork in the road in my life and I can't choose which way even if you pointed a gun at me! Or paid me money. Or pushed me in a direction. It's all come to a complete and total standstill except for these brewing and simmering feelings of wanting to peel myself off myself.
Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. I have a Virgo Moon but my Pisces Sun doesn't allow me to suppress a ton of feelings. They just kind of come out all sideways for a while if I do that (it's been known to happen). I'm sorry that physical exertion isn't an option, but maybe something else healing like Reiki? Sorry I can't help much.
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11nahyt
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posted October 02, 2013 10:59 PM
Wow, no physical outlet? Ouch. Well then this is going to be the time where you're going to have to force yourself to find a hobby. Idk maybe painting? Sculpting? Find something. I got really in touch with my artistic side during my rough time.. If you need to isolate yourself from people, do so. Sometimes being near other people and w.e energy they carry, can make things worst for you. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 02, 2013 11:13 PM
You need to find some outlet for that energy. Even painting, music help BUT they aren’t as effective as physical activities. If you’re not used to Pluto’s energy, then it can be hard but you must find some outlet for that intensity otherwise it will just make you go berserk on some unlucky person someday. Don’t try to control anything, just let go.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 02, 2013 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Don’t try to control anything, just let go.
I think this is probably the key, really. The thing about Pluto transits is that the more we try to control what is happening, or what or who remains in our lives, the more out of control things can feel.
The essence of a Pluto hard aspect is to remove and uproot the things in our lives that are not working for our higher purpose. If we're not willing to accept that, it can make it considerably more painful. Rather like drawing the Death card in a tarot reading. It doesn't really mean someone is going to die, but one had probably better prepare to let go of some things willingly (whether it's an outdated way of looking at yourself or life in general, or more tangible things). That's been my experience, anyway. I'm thankful that I read Robert Hand's interpretation of these transits before they hit. It really helped me to read through his book. <Edit> Uranus hard transits are just kind of infuriating, from my experience. I didn't have much of an outlet for it while it sat perched at an exact square to my Saturn for a month, so I just had to grit my teeth and listen to loud music whenever I got in the car and drove on the freeway. Motorhead and Misfits were the CDs of choice for me. Or I would stay up late and listen to music that helped with the irritability and restlessness I was feeling.
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11nahyt
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posted October 02, 2013 11:52 PM
I actually could not listen to loud music. I instead got into really romantic and soft stuff during my rough time, lol. Not only did it help with the anger etc, but I also managed to get in touch with my feminine and romantic side. I shed off a lot of my grinch ways. Im finally able to be emotionally expressive. be romantic. being flirty without being awkward. Finally. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 03, 2013 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
I actually could not listen to loud music. I instead got into really romantic and soft stuff during my rough time, lol. Not only did it help with the anger etc, but I also managed to get in touch with my feminine and romantic side. I shed off a lot of my grinch ways. Im finally able to be emotionally expressive. be romantic. being flirty without being awkward. Finally.
That's always a good thing.  I had some of that when Pluto squared my natal Venus. It softened my perspective on relationships, at any rate. And also allowed me to be able to listen to softer music for once, lol. Did you have hard Pluto or Uranus transits going on, Nahyt?
<Edit> Never mind, I just reread your post, lol. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 03, 2013 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
That's always a good thing. I had some of that when Pluto squared my natal Venus. It softened my perspective on relationships, at any rate. And also allowed me to be able to listen to softer music for once, lol. Did you have hard Pluto or Uranus transits going on, Nahyt?
Yea I got into some stuff that I didn't ever bother listening to before. I had t-Pluto in Capricorn squaring my natal sun/merc/mars. And conjunct my natal Saturn/Uranus/Neptune. And opposite natal Jupiter (natally, I have a handful of T-squares involving these planets). And then to make things even more spicy, at the same time pluto was doing its thing, I also had transit Uranus in Aries in my first house opposing my sun/merc/mars. And squaring Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/jupiter.. So both transiting planets were simultaneously aspecting my natal t-squares -____-... I wish I had known about astrology then. It would have helped tremedously. understanding what was happening to me..But whatevs. I made it through lol..And although the anger issues, and all other things that ensued were awful, I truly came out as new person after all that
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 03, 2013 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
I actually could not listen to loud music. I instead got into really romantic and soft stuff during my rough time, lol. Not only did it help with the anger etc, but I also managed to get in touch with my feminine and romantic side. I shed off a lot of my grinch ways. Im finally able to be emotionally expressive. be romantic. being flirty without being awkward. Finally.
I was interested in soft music for the first time in my life when T. Saturn was in my 12th. Astrology didn't help much, the descriptions I read were all about doom and gloom. IP: Logged |
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posted October 03, 2013 12:34 AM
I will hit t-Pluto square n-moon in the next few years and I will let you know how it is. I've always presumed it will be the death of my father as Moon rules my 4th.At the moment I have Pluto square Pluto and t-Ura opposed Pluto. Just want to explode. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 03, 2013 12:48 AM
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I was interested in soft music for the first time in my life when T. Saturn was in my 12th. Astrology didn't help much, the descriptions I read were all about doom and gloom.
Saturn in the 12 sounds awful though. Which just made me realize I had Saturn transiting my 12th too, sometime during my childhood.. Not surprised. I'm not going to even bother with looking up descriptions lol. W.e.. Did the soft music help you out? Did it soften your hard little heart  ? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted October 03, 2013 01:00 AM
Funny story regarding transiting Pluto.....
I started a name change a couple months ago, without any planning or coordinating cap pluto's transit with my name they gave me a date my new name was going to be sworn in and it was nearly exact by minute that transiting Cap Pluto was entering a square aspect with my Libra Ascendant@7.05. I realized this after it was already set, and thought it was very telling of the universal energy!
But then there was some issues with the paperwork and newspaper accidentally sending me someone elses proof of intent to change name that had to be corrected before i could be sworn in.
This delayed my name change a bit, i'd already forgot about transit Pluto and my Ascendant so i didnt think much about the date change.....until i found a copy of my original birth certificate and realized my birth time on my copy was off by 8 minutes, of course i had to go check out how much that changed my ascendant's degree..... Ascendant was libra@7.05 and moved to to libra@8.45.....not much of a change..... but after they rescheduled my date court(only on tuesdays or thursdays) i realized the day my name was rescheduled to be sworn pluto was cap@8.50. This date they gave was the closest date the court was open for name changes that would set pluto in an exact aspect to my true Ascendant's degree on the day my name was changed, for all to know!
If that doesnt show how exacting the universe is and how much its energies knows about us even when we dont....thats kind of cool to me!I feel you on pluto, its hitting all my angles right now!! Weeeeeee! Actually it hasnt hit my IC/MC quite yet, cap/cancer@9.47, it will Nov 16th/17th....which my birthday is Nov 27th, but my solar return is early morning nov 26th, interesting! Im so looking forward to this....so far ever since my name change and pluto hitting my AC, ive had 3 long term battles end abruptly end in my favor....FINALLY!!! I cant wait for it to hit my MC, ive been trying to do a career change for years and it just has been obstacle upon obstacle....just the same as everything else has, then pluto hits and things finally swing in my favor, from a square aspect!
Who knew?
Yes, its been very hard emotionally and the ups and downs are making me feel bi-polar, wondering if i need to be medicated...lol!
But pluto is just beginning to do a reconstruct on my entire house, ive been trying to do this for years with very slow success....but Pluto blew 3 major obstacles ive been fighting for years out of my way within 2 weeks! Its nice to have pluto supports here!
Just realized its just landed on my Eros cap@9.00 yesterday....LOL, OMG....that explains the dreams ive been having the last 2 nights!! WOW
Its going to hit my Valentine cap@9.50 shortly, then square my pluto libra@11.05,
I doubt the dreams will be ending anytime soon! WOW! So, maybe we should start a support group for all of us getting hit hard right now by cap pluto??
Then the fact that transit Aries Uranus is making a 1.5 degree square to transit Cap Pluto can only be adding insanity for us! Expect the unexpected, and hold on!! Just know you have an excuse to be crazy right now(as long as its legal of course) you wont be able to completely stop feeling crazy, so just flow with it and try to smile! I cant wait to see what these transits will do when they hit my 7th house Aries Jupiter@15!
Hope this makes sense and maybe gives some hope?? Its going to get better hang in there! IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 03, 2013 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Yea I got into some stuff that I didn't ever bother listening to before.I had t-Pluto in Capricorn squaring my natal sun/merc/mars. And conjunct my natal Saturn/Uranus/Neptune. And opposite natal Jupiter (natally, I have a handful of T-squares involving these planets). And then to make things even more spicy, at the same time pluto was doing its thing, I also had transit Uranus in Aries in my first house opposing my sun/merc/mars. And squaring Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/jupiter.. So both transiting planets were simultaneously aspecting my natal t-squares -____-... I wish I had known about astrology then. It would have helped tremedously. understanding what was happening to me..But whatevs. I made it through lol..And although the anger issues, and all other things that ensued were awful, I truly came out as new person after all that
Good lord. I suppose I'm fortunate that it's not bothering my sun or moon. I am just a few degrees shy of having a cardinal T-square, but thankfully I don't. But my Mars in Capricorn is at a late degree in my 6th house, and I'm a little freaked out about that, honestly. But I suppose I won't have to worry about it for a few years. Yeah, my Pluto transits have honestly been really enjoyable for me. I stopped acting like a d0uchy hipster, mellowed out a bit, found someone I truly loves who truly loves me, and we have a sweet little boy now. So yeah, life changed for sure, but in all good ways. The Uranus transits were just crap though, to be honest. Having it conjunct my Venus wasn't so bad, and even squaring Pluto wasn't terrible. It was the square to my natal Saturn (starting to go retrograde, and sitting exact for a month) that just sucked. I felt very...angry and frustrated in general, but I got past it.
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 03, 2013 01:03 AM
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Saturn in the 12 sounds awful though. Which just made me realize I had Saturn transiting my 12th too, sometime during my childhood.. Not surprised. I'm not going to even bother with looking up descriptions lol. W.e..Did the soft music help you out? Did it soften your hard little heart ?
No, it just made it harder, all those emotional stuffs in them awakened my sadistic side  . If I break more hearts, it will help them in creating more soft, tragic music. I’m indirectly making a massive contribuition  . IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 03, 2013 01:13 AM
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I will hit t-Pluto square n-moon in the next few years and I will let you know how it is. I've always presumed it will be the death of my father as Moon rules my 4th.At the moment I have Pluto square Pluto and t-Ura opposed Pluto. Just want to explode.
My husband has Capricorn Moon at 3 degrees, so when we met t Pluto was square my natal Venus off and on, and it was conjunct his Moon off and on. Mostly, he just thought more about how he would feel when his own mother eventually passes, and experienced some grief with that realization that eventually it will have to happen. I had experienced a tremendous loss in my family right after we met, so there was a bit of bonding between us with those feelings. And of course we had some really rough patches in our relationship during that time, but we managed to pull through. His Moon is in his first house though.
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 03, 2013 01:14 AM
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Good lord. I suppose I'm fortunate that it's not bothering my sun or moon. I am just a few degrees shy of having a cardinal T-square, but thankfully I don't. But my Mars in Capricorn is at a late degree in my 6th house, and I'm a little freaked out about that, honestly. But I suppose I won't have to worry about it for a few years.Yeah, my Pluto transits have honestly been really enjoyable for me. I stopped acting like a d0uchy hipster, mellowed out a bit, found someone I truly loves who truly loves me, and we have a sweet little boy now. So yeah, life changed for sure, but in all good ways. The Uranus transits were just crap though, to be honest. Having it conjunct my Venus wasn't so bad, and even squaring Pluto wasn't terrible. It was the square to my natal Saturn (starting to go retrograde, and sitting exact for a month) that just sucked. I felt very...angry and frustrated in general, but I got past it.
I enjoy Pluto transits and all the drama it brings. Saturn transits suck. Saturn is strong in my chart and it kicks my butt every time it comes around. Neptune transits are like a slow poison, it is conjuncting 3 planets in my chart currently and will conjunct Venus after few years. It will also enter my 5th, I will probably rescue someone. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted October 03, 2013 01:23 AM
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I enjoy Pluto transits and all the drama it brings. Saturn transits suck. Saturn is strong in my chart and it kicks my butt every time it comes around. Neptune transits are like a slow poison, it is conjuncting 3 planets in my chart currently and will conjunct Venus after few years. It will also enter my 5th, I will probably rescue someone.
I know what you mean. I'm enjoying my Pluto transits, although it's a lot to take in sometimes...when I look at my life four years ago compared to now, it's like complete opposite ends of the spectrum. I seem to be generally compatible with Pluto, as it involves digging around in my own psyche and uprooting stuff that I no longer have any use for. But yeah. Saturn kicks my @ss every time as well. I think it's the trine to my 8th house sun and all those effing asteroids there. Every. Time. <I should say "Saturn transits that make aspects to my Sun". Other Saturn transits aren't quite as insufferable.> IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 03, 2013 01:53 AM
I have transit Saturn in my 8th right now, conjunct my natal pluto. and it will eventually conjunct my venus there too, and square my moon. I hope it has nothing to do with my mother though. But being soo close to my Venus would prob explain why I'm soo not interested in a relationship right now. Oh Lordy...Transit Neptune is in my 12th now. I'm feeling great though. And that kinda scares me Lol. IP: Logged |
geea
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posted October 03, 2013 01:57 AM
charlie, whatever you do, dont stay alone for too much. Be around people. You need to distract yourself..IP: Logged | |
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