posted October 07, 2013 01:59 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
Linda Goodman says in Relationship Signs that sun square Saturn is about as binding an aspect as you can get.

I don't have my book here, but she says something like, "You may not always get along, but oh well, you are stuck with each other forever, so try and make the best of it." Which sounds a little like what you describe.

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posted October 07, 2013 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
The bond stays for what it seems a life time. It could be an unspoken bond, but they will continue thinking about the other... unless the two parties broke it off on really bad terms, which is half of the time. The bond still will remain but it will be based on extreme hatred and holding grudges forever.

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posted October 12, 2013 03:12 AM            

IME: I had a relationship with a guy who's Sun/Venus/Merc were trine my Saturn and his Moon was conjunct it. I'm still bound to him to this day and it's been almost 3 years since we were together. I don't like him seeing me with other men because I feel like I'm being "caught" somehow. I'm not sure that I would ever be able to have a relationship with him again, but I am fiercely loyal to him and his honor. And he returns that loyalty 10-fold...now. Even though his girlfriend throws a fit every time she finds out we've seen each other A best friend you might say. It's too bad we couldn't have figured this out a long time ago What are ya gonna do..

I think it fades the less you see them, but as soon as you do come in contact again all those feelings will come back fresh and renewed. They do for me anyway. And I've gone months and months not seeing my friend

posted October 12, 2013 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
The bond stays for what it seems a life time. It could be an unspoken bond, but they will continue thinking about the other... unless the two parties broke it off on really bad terms, which is half of the time. The bond still will remain but it will be based on extreme hatred and holding grudges forever.

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posted October 12, 2013 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
That's a whole lot of Saturn aspects to get over..if you even can.

IME: I had a relationship with a guy who's Sun/Venus/Merc were trine my Saturn and his Moon was conjunct it. I'm still bound to him to this day and it's been almost 3 years since we were together. I don't like him seeing me with other men because I feel like I'm being "caught" somehow. I'm not sure that I would ever be able to have a relationship with him again, but I am fiercely loyal to him and his honor. And he returns that loyalty 10-fold...now. Even though his girlfriend throws a fit every time she finds out we've seen each other A best friend you might say. It's too bad we couldn't have figured this out a long time ago What are ya gonna do..

I think it fades the less you see them, but as soon as you do come in contact again all those feelings will come back fresh and renewed. They do for me anyway. And I've gone months and months not seeing my friend

Don't look at it as a bad thing, it may not be feasible right now, but you could come out with a really great friend that would do anything for you in the end..

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Very interesting! I can so relate with all of that. I always felt there was this weird unspoken vow that was taken to always be "loyal" to one another. Though since we've broken up, he's the one who seems to be very secretive with other women he's seeing - not me so much with other men. Sometimes I think he was so deathly afraid of disappointing me, and when he finally did, he felt it was easier to run.

But, what I find intriguing is, him and his new gf do have some saturn aspects between them - I wonder, does he feel bound to us both? Or who's synastry would be more binding?

ours -
sun square saturn, venus sextile saturn, jupiter sextile saturn, saturn conjunct moon, saturn sextile saturn, saturn conjunct pluto, uranus trine saturn, pluto square saturn

theirs -
mercury trine saturn, saturn sextile saturn, saturn conjunct moon, saturn trine mercury (double whammy), saturn trine jupiter

She does seem to have some kind of hold over him, but he doesn't seem happy. It almost seems like he's present in their relationship just out of duty. That's what leads me to my next thought - I wonder if this would have anything to do with them meeting and solidifying their relationship all during Saturn retrograde. Something to ponder!

posted October 12, 2013 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
Saturn has a tight hold yes he does lol, his bonds are almost impossible to walk away from. I should know it took me awhile to walk away from my Scorpio ex who was less than an example boyfriend, which in synastry I had... Saturn opposite Sun, Saturn square Mars, Saturn conjunction SN, along with opposing NNs. Mabe it was easier for me to walk away since the Saturn came from his end.

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posted October 12, 2013 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
^^Yes I definitely think so, after we broke up he kept contacting me over an over, basically he couldn't accept that we were over. The Saturn person doesn't want to let go. They somehow always feel that sense of 'duty' to the planet person imo.

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posted May 04, 2014 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
The bond stays for what it seems a life time. It could be an unspoken bond, but they will continue thinking about the other... unless the two parties broke it off on really bad terms, which is half of the time. The bond still will remain but it will be based on extreme hatred and holding grudges forever.

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I want to share with you guys my experience. It's gonna be long but it might help to see how these saturn aspects worked out for me.

My ex and I had sun square saturn and saturn square sun and one thing is sure: we broke up on really bad terms and we haven't talked ever since. We both moved on completely. The relationship lasted only for 2 years. We didn't have saturn aspects with the angles but we had moon square saturn, mercury trine saturn, pluto conjunct saturn, mars square saturn-saturn square mars and the infamous mars square pluto-pluto square mars. Yes, it was an abusive relationship... I was the victim. In the beginning he was the perfect guy for me. Everything was going well for about 6 months. And when we moved in together, hell begun. I loved him but it was a very toxic relationship where he didn't accept me for who I am, we had no communication whatsoever and he became very controlling, extremely jealous and abusive. He is a capricorn and I'm a cancer. And I get along with cappies, I have many cappy friends too actually.

The guy whom I'm involved with (it's been 2 years now) is the love of my life. He is a libra with cancer rising. I'm cancer with libra rising. Our moons both in Taurus, his saturn in cancer, my saturn in libra and our neptunes in sagittarius.

We have (I'm mentioning only the saturn aspects):
saturn square ascendant-ascendant square saturn,
sun square saturn-sun conjunct saturn,
sun square ascendant,
moon opposite saturn,
mercury conjunct saturn,
saturn square saturn

I can't live without him and he can't live without me. We can't break up even tho I tried so many times because this relationship is literally killing me. It's a burden. Beautiful and ugly at the same time. We are like drugs for each other but I'm slowly dying while he is not. He feels alive and energized with me but he gets really frustrated when we don't talk or not as much as he wants. But he hurt me so many times, omg that I feel I can't take more pain from him anymore... But we in love with each other like crazy. I can't even describe it. Passionate love which is heaven when it's good and hell when it's not. We also have Pluto square Mars so you guys can imagine. But I need him like air and he needs me just as much. He told me he has never loved anyone like he loves me and he has never attracted to a girl like this much as he is attracted to me. And I can tell the same. I find him extremely handsome (his Venus in libra too, so ya lol)

I tried to be with others but it's always him whom I end up with. We are both very jealous too. He threatened some of my male friends. We blocked each other on fbook then add each other again. We yell at each other, freak out on each other and crying...mostly me. It's a beautiful tragedy to be honest.

His sun, mars, pluto, venus in my 12th house and my sun, mercury, mars and north node in his 12th house. His Saturn falls in my 9th house and my Saturn falls in his 4th.
It seems a very heavy karmic relationship and I can't say I'm 100% happy. I love him so much that it hurts. I try to distance myself because he is not good for me, he is aggressive too but I can't leave him. He doesn't even let me and how odd.... I'm glad that he doesn't let me go. He is always there even tho I occasionally tell him that's it over and I want a break up.

I had many relationships through the years but I've never felt like this before.

posted May 04, 2014 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What about Venus conj. DSC?

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posted May 04, 2014 08:31 PM            

I've said it before and I'll say it again. All Saturn aspects are binding, but the squares are really dangerous because despite it being a bad relationship, you will feel a strong inclination to stay in it because of the binding qualities. Especially since the beginning of the relationship tends to be positive and the 'squareness' of the aspects tends to come about later on. It's better to be in a good relationship that doesn't last (ie no saturn aspects) than to be in a terrible relationship that does. Too many saturn squares in synastry = stay away.

posted May 04, 2014 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by kennedy80:
That's a lot of Saturn! So, you'd say it's harder the Saturn person to walk away, versus the planet person?

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posted May 06, 2014 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
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Question: By any chance was he the saturn person and you the planet person most of these instances? I find that usually in Synastry with many Saturn squares it's usually the Saturn person that ends up either betraying or maltreating the planet person. Was this the case for you?

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Well, it's interesting because it seems pretty equal:

his sun sextile my saturn and his saturn square my sun,
his saturn square my mercury, my mercury sextile his saturn,
his mars square my saturn and my saturn square his mars (double whammy)

But it was definitely him who was very violent and maltreating me. He broke up with me as well.