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Topic: Sun Conjunct Uranus: Authority Issues?
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starr33
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From: Does it matter?
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posted October 15, 2013 08:56 AM
  
Hello everyone! What I'd like to know from anyone who has this aspect, or is close to someone who does, if they have issues with authority, especially at work. Are you self employed or have plans to accomplish this in the future?
How do you feel about being told what to do, even if it's more of a suggestion instead of a command?
If you have this aspect, what sign and house is it in?
What else would you have to say about this aspect, maybe you notice a pattern of behavior. I ask because I always seem to find fault with my job/coworkers/management. I never feel like I fit in, and I have a hard time accepting office politics, hypocrisy, and just "playing the game" in general. I feel my individuality is asked to be suppressed in order to earn a living, and I'm about at the end of my rope.
Thank you.
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Faith
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posted October 15, 2013 09:10 AM
My husband has an exact sun-Uranus conjunction and he's self-employed. It's not that he won't take orders from anyone, he just won't take orders from fools.  So he has worked extremely hard in the past, in regular jobs, but only when he had confidence in his bosses and thoroughly enjoyed what he was doing. Now that he's gotten older, he doesn't have much interest in dealing with people, and isn't interested in much of what goes on in the corporate world. I have Aquarius Mercury and can relate. Bureaucracy, meetings, paperwork and protocol tend to depress me. It's all too slow and predictable. And you can't box in Uranus, so you just end up having to make too many concessions and maybe being fake to get by. IP: Logged |
starr33
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From: Does it matter?
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posted October 15, 2013 09:32 AM
make too many concessions and maybe being fake to get by.Yes!!! Small talk, holy bananas. "Good morning. See you tomorrow." My God. It may seem like little things to others, but I find it quite boring and pretentious. What sign and house is his aspect placed in, Faith? IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted October 15, 2013 09:43 AM
I actually know someone with this conjunction, pretty tight. Not that he has authority issues (which probably he has!), but he himself is an authority!!! People listen to him, and he's like a role model in a good way to so many people... A man of idea. IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted October 15, 2013 10:26 AM
I have this in the 2nd house and I have to agree with the previous posters. I do get irritated with authority, especially if the powers that be nag me to death. This is definitely a rebellious aspect. I am also attracted to & attract so called bad boys. The status quo does not interest me. Ex husband did not like this about me & made the unfortuate mistake of trying to tame me. He was all about appearances & keeping up with Joneses which eroded my respect for him.------------------
Claire
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libraschoice77
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posted October 15, 2013 11:08 AM
Have Uranus in 5th house, does that count? Seems authority figures have problems with how I carry myself, they have trouble understanding me which is why they dont like me. Which is why I am trying hard to get my own business started, I am a creative independant type that doesnt like being barked orders at or playing pecking order in the work place.Aspects are... Uranus trine Mars Uranus sextile Venus Uranus trine Moon IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted October 15, 2013 11:36 AM
Libraschoice77, I totally get how just your mere presence provokes the higher ups. It is exasperating. I have experienced it mainly with women bosses with a chip on their shoulder that like to hover. Male bosses, not so much. They tend to hand me the ball & let me run with it. Good luck with your business!------------------
Claire
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Pure
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posted October 15, 2013 12:08 PM
I have Sun square Uranus and it could be said that I have issues with authority. Only when said authority is patronizing/talks down to me, is rude or demands that I do something. Otherwise I enjoy being of service and helping people out. IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted October 15, 2013 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Libraschoice77, I totally get how just your mere presence provokes the higher ups. It is exasperating. I have experienced it mainly with women bosses with a chip on their shoulder that like to hover. Male bosses, not so much. They tend to hand me the ball & let me run with it. Good luck with your business!
With me I do get hired more by male bosses, but they give me just as much of a hard time as female bosses/employees lol. Thank you, I am going to try my best with my biz!
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charlie
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posted October 15, 2013 04:23 PM
I have extreme issues. sun in 11h trine Uranus in 3h. I also have Mars sextile both and conj ascendant...I can have a horrible mouth on me!IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted October 15, 2013 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by starr33:
I ask because I always seem to find fault with my job/coworkers/management. I never feel like I fit in, and I have a hard time accepting office politics, hypocrisy, and just "playing the game" in general. I feel my individuality is asked to be suppressed in order to earn a living, and I'm about at the end of my rope
That describes me but my Uranus isn't conjunct with my sun (but it is 5H Sag and I believe all my Sag is why I'm this way). I'm also self-employed and in the past I've had conflicts with authority figures who I saw as too absurd (Pointy Haired Boss in Dilbert seems closer to the truth than many want to realize, their skill is kissing up to those who made them the boss, not on any actual talent or merit). Heck, you should've been there when I was ordered to pee in a cup just to continue to be a library volunteer (after I worked my butt of saving their Summer's Children Reading program)... and I was 17 on top of that (so especially contentious)  IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted October 15, 2013 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by starr33:
Small talk, holy bananas. "Good morning. See you tomorrow." My God. It may seem like little things to others, but I find it quite boring and pretentious
That said, I find things like saying "good morning" and "see you tomorrow" as polite rather than pretentious and in no way equate them with office politics, hypocrisy, or "playing the game." That you do sounds to me that it's not authority you have a problem with, it's EVERYONE around you. So I'm wondering if you're truly an independent (that is best working alone being your own boss) like me or if it's that you need to BE the authority that gets to boss everyone else so they all play the games FOR you (acknowledging your superiority in the process) instead of with you? Either could be the case, I don't know. But just as I otherwise fit your description means that maybe it's not your Uranus Conjunct Sun that does it, it might also be that our motivations for wanting to safeguard our individuality are different from one another (and therefore our placements are distinct in why neither of us is comfortable in an office after all). IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted October 15, 2013 06:52 PM
Great point, PixieJane. My conjunction is in Libra; so it is rudeness that aggravates me. I bite my 3H Mercury in Scorpio opposite Mars tongue more often than not.. I can't stand being in a meeting with people who get stuck in a fretful, nitpicking mode. I really do try to find a solution to a dilemma in the most fair, ethical, pragmatic way. I don't like unnecessarily gumming up the works.------------------
Claire
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Kerosene
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posted October 15, 2013 06:57 PM
My dad has sun conjunct uranus in leo 1st houseHe could not hold jobs..
So he became a house dad lmfao.
He was self employed etc etc tried real estate but sorta just gave up on it.. IP: Logged |
starr33
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posted October 16, 2013 05:53 AM
That said, I find things like saying "good morning" and "see you tomorrow" as polite rather than pretentious and in no way equate them with office politics, hypocrisy, or "playing the game." That you do sounds to me that it's not authority you have a problem with, it's EVERYONE around you. So I'm wondering if you're truly an independent (that is best working alone being your own boss) like me or if it's that you need to BE the authority that gets to boss everyone else so they all play the games FOR you (acknowledging your superiority in the process) instead of with you?Nope, delegation is not my thing, pixi. And I never said anything about about politeness. I said it was boring. And doing it twice a day, five days a week, even for this Sun/Uranus in Libra lady, is just blah, blah, blah... And, yes, working alone, at home, getting my novel published is my dream job. That way I don't have to feel and soak up everyone's thoughts and emotions. It makes me ill after a while. Well, time to go to work! IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted October 16, 2013 06:31 AM
I have Capricorn sun conjunct Uranus in the 12th house. I don’t have a problem with being told what to do. I have a problem with people who abuse their position and power. Yelling, shouting, sarcasm, sayings things like “I’m your boss/parent/teacher/etc.. therefore I’m right and you have to do what I say” are some of the fastest ways to annoy me. I used to "work" at home but yeah I slightly prefer working with other people than working alone. I have Capricorn sun conjunct Uranus in the 12th house. I don’t have a problem with being told what to do. I have a problem with people who abuse their position and power. Yelling, shouting, sarcasm, sayings things like “I’m your boss/parent/teacher/etc.. therefore I’m right and you have to do what I say” are some of the fastest ways to annoy me. I used to "work" at home but yeah I slightly prefer working with other people than working alone. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted October 16, 2013 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by fireopal09:
bosses with a chip on their shoulder that like to hover.
I dislike that too. I'm like "I know what I'm doing, so quit hovering over me and go play somewhere else". IP: Logged |
starr33
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posted October 19, 2013 08:57 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who chimed in. It doesn't help that my Pluto/2nd is square Saturn/10th, does it. But, hey at least Pluto trines MC! Smoke 'em if you got 'em. IP: Logged |
waterbaby^_^
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posted October 23, 2013 01:57 PM
I have uranus tightly conjunct my ascendant and I've always had mild authority issues. Always have to do things my own way and have a hard time listening to authority unless I really respect the person. If I respect them then I have no problem with it but if I don't then they reaallly rub me the wrong way.. I've quit multiple jobs because of it even though I liked the boss and they liked me I just couldn't take their attitude in authority. edit: oh and yes I was self employed for a while because of this! I definitely relate to having a hard time fitting in and playing work politics, I know how you feel! ------------------
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I'm so cappy
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posted October 23, 2013 02:14 PM
Sun conjunct Uranus, 5th-4th house, CapricornI don't like being told what to do indeed. ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis
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posted October 23, 2013 02:38 PM
they make great sparks (electricians) and general rebelsIP: Logged |
starr33
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posted October 26, 2013 02:42 AM
Hi, waterbaby. You mentioned being self-employed. In what capacity, if you don't mind my asking? IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted October 26, 2013 02:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by starr33:
I ask because I always seem to find fault with my job/coworkers/management. I never feel like I fit in, and I have a hard time accepting office politics, hypocrisy, and just "playing the game" in general. I feel my individuality is asked to be suppressed in order to earn a living, and I'm about at the end of my rope.
Thank you.
You sound exactly like me. I have sun in virgo in the 10th house and my ascendant in Sagittarius conjuncts with my jupiter and uranus. My jupiter and uranus have an exact conjunction. I am now self employed, I cant stress enough that what you just wrote is exactly how I feel and have felt and why I am self employed. I am not saying to quit, this economy is crazy but I took the chance and it has paid off so far but dont really know if I will regret this decision in the future bc if you are out of the "work force" for a while even if you put in your resume that the entire time you were out of the "work force" you were self employed and did well they will pick someone else over you who did not ever get out of the work force so if you are going to quit and pursue self employment you have to take it all the way and understand the risks. However no risk no gain, how else will you reach your full potential if odds are that you will stay unhappy working for this company for 20 years which under pays you and pays you just enough to get by but not enough to earn a leaving and then maybe just mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe you might get a promotion, but probably not. In this economy though its a tough call.
I fee you. I think the same way.
P.S. I welcome suggestions. Talk to me like an equal and we are cool. Talk down to me and tell me what to do and it will rub me the wrong way.
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amelia28
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posted October 26, 2013 03:11 AM
One more thing.....I am not a rebel without a cause. I think questioning authority is very healthy but you should simutanously try your best to stay out of trouble while remaining true to yourself.I feel society can really use a healthy dosage of questioning authority. We are biologically wired to stay with the herd and not question bc it increases our chances of survival but we can't hope for a better world if we don't challenge the status quo. SO this concept of problems with authority is often used to demonize people that question things although at times it may be an accurate description ofcourse. I personally never had issues with any of my bosses or teachers and always treated them with respect but I definitely question things and think outside the box. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted October 26, 2013 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by waterbaby^_^:
I have uranus tightly conjunct my ascendant and I've always had mild authority issues. Always have to do things my own way and have a hard time listening to authority unless I really respect the person. If I respect them then I have no problem with it but if I don't then they reaallly rub me the wrong way.. I've quit multiple jobs because of it even though I liked the boss and they liked me I just couldn't take their attitude in authority. edit: oh and yes I was self employed for a while because of this! I definitely relate to having a hard time fitting in and playing work politics, I know how you feel!
I think starr33, You and I should start our own company ! hhahaha **Neptune in me engaging in a fleeting fantasy. IP: Logged |
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