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Topic: I hate Pluto.
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Barbiegirl19
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From: Smalltown Pennsylvania
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posted October 24, 2013 11:40 PM
  
Omg I just realized Pluto squares my Saturn!! And it's a hard aspect  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 24, 2013 11:42 PM
I have a Pluto trine, two conjunctions, a sextile, square and opposition but I don't mind Pluto. I like to delve deeper than most but I cannot stand medical stuff. No way. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 24, 2013 11:45 PM
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Barbiegirl19
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posted October 24, 2013 11:50 PM
A E I O U and sometimes YIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yes, people with strong Pluto can transform their lives with their thoughts and subsequent will but only people with Pluto 
Hmm you know about so many things  . So people with negative aspects tend to have difficult life because of their negative thought patterns? do aspects/placements dictate thought patterns? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 25, 2013 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hmm you know about so many things . So people with negative aspects tend to have difficult life because of their negative thought patterns? do aspects/placements dictate thought patterns?
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Only with Pluto
Because Pluto rules willpower? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted October 25, 2013 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Because Pluto rules willpower?
Yep and people under the influence of Pluto are here to experience transformation and power of their own wills in their lifetime. They are given opportunities to experience change and the sense of power that comes from such experiences as a rise in life of some kind. Or, they will fall and rise again, like the Phoenix bird. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yep and people under the influence of Pluto are here to experience transformation and power of their own wills in their lifetime. They are given opportunities to experience change and the sense of power that comes from such experiences as a rise in life of some kind. Or, they will fall and rise again, like the Phoenix bird.
So Pluto is not overrated afterall  ....... I have to be more positive  . IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM
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posted October 25, 2013 02:38 AM
I hate Saturn.IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 25, 2013 07:06 AM
Dam, i was highIP: Logged |
pvorb
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posted October 25, 2013 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hmm you know about so many things . So people with negative aspects tend to have difficult life because of their negative thought patterns? do aspects/placements dictate thought patterns?[/B]
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Only with Pluto
Damn I'm doomed.
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Doux Rêve
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posted October 25, 2013 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yep and people under the influence of Pluto are here to experience transformation and power of their own wills in their lifetime.
Will have to disagree a bit with you here, Starlight. Everyone has Pluto in their chart, thus everyone has the possibility to make changes in their life, even if Pluto is not prominent in their chart.
People who have Pluto prominent in their chart will experience more resistance (internal and / or external) in their evolution, but everyone will meet struggles in the area Pluto rules / resides, and consequently, everyone is given the opportunity to change themselves and evolve. I recommend Jeff Green's work on Evolutionary Astrology, he says Pluto is actually our soul, and the position of Pluto in the chart reflects what the soul wants / needs in order to evolve, as well as the challenges that come with it. The Lunar Nodes go hand in hand with Pluto and show the way one needs to go in order to develop their soul's "mission"; if you use your South Node, the effects are likely to be negative (but comfortable), and if you use your North Node to get to Pluto's intention, it will eventually lead to good results but the downside is that it's very challenging (because of the unknown) and most people get stuck between the two: trying to change something in themselves / their life, and then going back to old patterns. And so on and so forth. I haven't read his books yet but I really want to. I've watched some videos of conferences he went to, answering people's questions and explaining his concept, and it's been very informative. So... don't hate on Pluto, people!
Yes, it does bring challenges but to think that other people (less Plutonian) don't experience hardship is erroneous. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 25, 2013 08:24 AM
From experience, Pluto is about controlling power, will power, creation, destruction, rebirth, searching, digging, depth, darkness, blackness & healing, Where Pluto is you will subconsciously extract information information, instinctively try to have your power known of & burn through the objective ferociously
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PlutoFish
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posted October 25, 2013 08:29 AM
The creature Pluto most brings to mind would have to be a Spider, second to that a Wolf IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
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posted October 25, 2013 08:52 AM
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PlutoFish: Topic resolved 
You're so strange, IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 4800
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 25, 2013 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Will have to disagree a bit with you here, Starlight.Everyone has Pluto in their chart, thus everyone has the possibility to make changes in their life, even if Pluto is not prominent in their chart.
People who have Pluto prominent in their chart will experience more resistance (internal and / or external) in their evolution, but everyone will meet struggles in the area Pluto rules / resides, and consequently, everyone is given the opportunity to change themselves and evolve. I recommend Jeff Green's work on Evolutionary Astrology, he says Pluto is actually our soul, and the position of Pluto in the chart reflects what the soul wants / needs in order to evolve, as well as the challenges that come with it. The Lunar Nodes go hand in hand with Pluto and show the way one needs to go in order to develop their soul's "mission"; if you use your South Node, the effects are likely to be negative (but comfortable), and if you use your North Node to get to Pluto's intention, it will eventually lead to good results but the downside is that it's very challenging (because of the unknown) and most people get stuck between the two: trying to change something in themselves / their life, and then going back to old patterns. And so on and so forth. I haven't read his books yet but I really want to. I've watched some videos of conferences he went to, answering people's questions and explaining his concept, and it's been very informative. So... don't hate on Pluto, people!
Yes, it does bring challenges but to think that other people (less Plutonian) don't experience hardship is erroneous.
Doux, I must have not been too clear in my post. I know everyone experiences hardship. I thought Anonymi asked why can't everyone who experiences it change their life and we know they all can't or there would be no misery in the world, right? So, obviously, not all of them who experience it change their lives for the better, they just stay in a state of misery until the day they die. What I meant is, those with powerful Pluto or Scorpio will change something in their lifetime through the use of their own will power. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I thought Anonymi asked why can't everyone who experiences it change their life and we know they all can't or there would be no misery in the world, right?
Yeah that's what I asked, maybe Plutonians are aware of their ability to change and rest aren't? IP: Logged |
chargeomentum
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posted October 25, 2013 11:58 AM
I have nothing against plutonicizism, except the fact that people tend to overrate it as something that NO MAN COULD UNDERSTNAD, those who have it are the immortals, the powerful, the who can do what the others can't. Yeah. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 25, 2013 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yeah that's what I asked, maybe Plutonians are aware of their ability to change and rest aren't?
They have a special ability imo, to change things. They are society's changers some of them might not realize it though. They can change for better or worst btw, it's not always for the best. It's just when people hear the word change they tend to think it will benefit the one doing the changing. IP: Logged |
KAMcA10
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From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 25, 2013 12:35 PM
Apparently I have Pluto least dominant in my chart.I don't hate Pluto but I may not really get Pluto. I'm not too sure how a less prominently placed Pluto is supposed to affect a person either. IP: Logged |
geea
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posted October 25, 2013 01:23 PM
i hate pluto too, a libra should never have a pluto or scorpio in the 1st house.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 01:40 PM
^ Pluto in 1st are loners but Libra is a social sign so it is quite contradictory. Pluto in 1st and ruler of 1st in 1st gives Arian nature so it may be similar to planets in Aries opposing planets in Libra. If you can integrate their energy, it may be helpful.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 25, 2013 01:40 PM
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Doux Rêve
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posted October 25, 2013 01:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What I meant is, those with powerful Pluto or Scorpio will change something in their lifetime through the use of their own will power.
I see.
Still disagree though! But nevermind. quote:
Originally posted by chargeomentum:
I have nothing against plutonicizism, except the fact that people tend to overrate it as something that NO MAN COULD UNDERSTNAD, those who have it are the immortals, the powerful, the who can do what the others can't. Yeah.
Lmao, exactly.
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