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orocairion
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posted October 24, 2013 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
See this sag charm..
I don't trust you MUAHAHAH

Bu..but...I have a Pisces Asc!. I am so nice!

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posted October 24, 2013 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces, Hmmm is it late pisces rising?
Don't you have a major Sag stellium!?!?!??!?!

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posted October 24, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, but let's pretend it's not there

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Early.

Are you scared yet?

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posted October 24, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found Scorps worse than Sags when they go bad. And you don't have to cross a Scorpion to get stung, they just have to think you have, the bad ones can be extremely paranoid...and vengeful over their deluded beliefs. Sometimes (like my mom) they'll make you pay for the sins of others, too, or things that really aren't your fault and they know it.

My experience with Sags has generally been positive, though you do have to put your big girl panties on, something many people don't have.

That said, my Sag Dad scared the hell out of me more than once and obviously didn't care if he killed me along with Mom when he sabotaged the car Mom won from him in divorce court, but I was just collateral damage in that case, nothing personal. Unlike my Scorpio Mom you really did have to cross him before he came after you (and he shrugged a lot off, I'm impressed over when he calmly took the shotgun from my mom who just tried killing him with it and simply removed it from our home without even beating the crap out of her with it). That's not to say he was pleasant otherwise.

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posted October 24, 2013 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your chart looks really nice, very soft LOL
No hard aspects at all besides jupiter/pluto.

You're probably a really nice person.
I'm really fed up with these loose ends in my life and they all happen to be from the sag persuasion.
It seems like they make things more complicated...

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posted October 24, 2013 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, I love Sags! And I'm a Pisces, but I think they're often compatible with my AC or Venus.

I always seem to encounter the fun ones with hilarious wit and warm hearts. But on the rare occasions that I dated one here or there... Nah.

I actually agree with PJ about Scorpios, though. You don't even really have to *do* anything to cross the ones that aren't working positively with their qualities. You could say that you prefer square shaped garbage cans to round ones (when they prefer round garbage cans), and THAT'S IT! YOU ARE THE ENEMY AND WILL BE PERSECUTED RUTHLESSLY!

Blechh. I'll take a happy-go-lucky Sag friend anytime, haha. But I've noticed that my Sag friends are often gay guys or straight women, so no...they don't try to put their hands up my skirt.

But most of my close friends (as well as my husband) have Sag ACs.

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(Side note: I know some absolutely lovely Scorpios on here, and I'm only making a generalization about the ones I've encountered. Please do not plot my demise. Thank you in advance.)

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posted October 24, 2013 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Your chart looks really nice, very soft LOL
No hard aspects at all besides jupiter/pluto.

You're probably a really nice person.



Thanks
I try to be but more often than not the emotional detachment of a sag shows up.
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I'm really fed up with these loose ends in my life and they all happen to be from the sag persuasion.
It seems like they make things more complicated...


Well, you know we are hunters and as such we are always on the hunt to keep things interesting.

Though I guess some of us don't or can't realize when the hunt should be over and done with

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posted October 24, 2013 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've found Scorps worse than Sags when they go bad. And you don't have to cross a Scorpion to get stung, they just have to think you have, the bad ones can be extremely paranoid...and vengeful over their deluded beliefs. Sometimes (like my mom) they'll make you pay for the sins of others, too, or things that really aren't your fault and they know it.

My experience with Sags has generally been positive, though you do have to put your big girl panties on, something many people don't have.

That said, my Sag Dad scared the hell out of me more than once and obviously didn't care if he killed me along with Mom when he sabotaged the car Mom won from him in divorce court, but I was just collateral damage in that case, nothing personal. Unlike my Scorpio Mom you really did have to cross him before he came after you (and he shrugged a lot off, I'm impressed over when he calmly took the shotgun from my mom who just tried killing him with it and simply removed it from our home without even beating the crap out of her with it). That's not to say he was pleasant otherwise.


Yeah true, scorps can be formidable when provoked but sags tend to go bad sporadically..
I've never been that close to scorps so I've never been stung but we just observe and interact in a civilized manner.
I've certainly have had more civilized human interactions with a freaking arachnid than the archer lol

Sags tend to be outgoing and sassy, and very unpredictable. They do what they want with out thinking of the other person.
I don't have to deal with that, so please show yourself out of my life.

That's a good example, it's hard to hate them because their so pleasant fun and nice. It's just the things they do like endangering their families like you mentioned.
To be honest if my parents did that I would probably never speak to them again.

I'm not easily taken by charms and pleasant behavior
You only get one chance.
There's no excuse to massively **** up everything around you.

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posted October 24, 2013 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I'd had experiences with Sags like you have Kero and PJ, I would probably steer clear of them as well. I don't have room for drama queens or tyrants. Thankfully, none of my Sag friends act that way.

One that I dated had water AC and Moon (I think it was Cancer and Pisces, but I can't recall which was which) and he was a case. Ughh.

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posted October 24, 2013 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:

Well, you know we are hunters and as such we are always on the hunt to keep things interesting.

Though I guess some of us don't or can't realize when the hunt should be over and done with


So why don't you like your Pisces ascendant?
Because it makes you seem nice?

I'm actually over bad boy/girl types..
I'd definitely go for someone who seems nice and would treat me with respect...

There comes a stage in every girls life where she wants to be with someone who's stable. LMFAO.
Something about nice guys finish last.

anyways there's no way you're boring with that sag stellium and scorpio mars..

You should tell girls your have Scorpio mars they would probably throw their panties at you. :P

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posted October 24, 2013 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supermeggs12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
LOL u scared of us Kero ? boo !!!!!!!

Well I kinda understand though..I always had the creepiest experiences with the same sign over and over...Cancers -_-


Cancers are too emotional.

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posted October 25, 2013 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So why don't you like your Pisces ascendant?
Because it makes you seem nice?

I hate my ascendant because when I fall in love it can completely drown my Sag self(Neptune conjunct Sun). The other person pretty much become my one and only priority, which usually leads to me being walked over.


So, my Sag self attracts them while my Pisces can drive them away. Plus I can feel things intensely as it is with my Scorpio Mars without my Ascedant piling crap on top of it as well, lol.

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I'm actually over bad boy/girl types..
I'd definitely go for someone who seems nice and would treat me with respect...

There comes a stage in every girls life where she wants to be with someone who's stable. LMFAO.
Something about nice guys finish last.



I've yet to meet a girl like that which I also like back.

The story of my life has always been about unrequited love on both ends.

quote:
anyways there's no way you're boring with that sag stellium and scorpio mars..

You should tell girls your have Scorpio mars they would probably throw their panties at you. :P



Lol, most can't handle the sudden intensity after dealing with light-hearted sag, sadly.

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posted October 25, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to be clear most Sags in my life have been pleasant. It's true that they also tend to be very individualistic and say things without sugar coating it both in just speaking their mind and in silliness which can be teasing or troll-like, though rarely seems intentionally cruel to me but does expect you to have a Sag-like thick skin. But they usually don't mind it when you're the same with them (one exception in my life has a Scorpio Mars that combines with her Sag sun to be especially harsh but her Cancer moon keeps her from being able to take what she dishes out) and that's fair enough for me to accept. But if you need everything sugar coated and/or need constant reassurance then Sags are people to avoid.

And Scorpios (and those with a lot of Scorpio in their chart) in my life tend to be some of the best and worst people I've ever met depending on how well they handled all that Scorpio energy (some swim in it to become eagles and phoenixes while others drown in it to become scorpions and gray lizards).

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posted October 25, 2013 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have one Sag sun friend and my father is also and my friend is nothing like how Sagittarius are being portrayed here. He doesn't say mean things to people but he does tease. He's very nice compared to most everyone else, really. Maybe it's his sun conjunct Neptune or Aqua moon? When I read this stuff about Sag suns I cannot apply most of it to him.

My father is also kind hearted, too, but he has a Pisces moon. He is never intentionally rude that I've noticed. He is very polite but he has Venus in Libra.

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posted October 25, 2013 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Is it just me?
Why is everyone afraid of Scorps, totally harmless unless you cross them.

Sags are tricky though...
Charming sociopaths.. the whole lot of them.

Okay well not all Sags, but most of the ones I've encountered...
The creepiest experiences were all with Sags..


I agree about scorpios they are usually quiet and really nice and the relationships they do form are based in true intimacy and loyalty but yes they dont forgive super easily, they dont forget easily and that can be a problem although they take pride in being this way I think.

Sagittarius are warm, universally generous with their time and money in my experience. They are loyal friends. I have not met a creepy sag to be honest. I know a sag that is indian, married with kids and devoted to his religion so doesn't eat meat but also explores other views his friends introduce to him and engages in long conversation over them openly. The guy has a humongous heart, truly compassionate soul...which makes him a target often to free loaders. On the other hand is my uncle who is a sag and he is an atheist, he is very smart and with him what you see is what you get really, he is an alcoholic and he is old and single and a flirt but a loyal friend and good uncle. My uncle avoids going to funerals, avoids hospitals and doesn't like to commit. He for some reason reminds me of Charlie Sheen.

They are both Sag and very different but both are open, warm and generous in my opinion...that is the vibe they give out. Sociopaths lie and the sag I know are open and upfront.

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posted October 25, 2013 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so relieved we stopped generalising.


(yeah, yeah, I saw you mentioned also some aspe
cts, but I wanted to say it anyway ).

I am a Sag, too, and I generally like people of my sign.
However, the creepiest experiences I have also made with Sags (three Sags to be exact; I somehow couldn`t get rid of them; one downright "stalked" me for years, the others just couldnīt keep their hands to themselves and thoughts inside their minds, until I REALLY had to step onto their toes and become very clear about my dis-interest. I nevr would have thought though that Sags could be THAT persistent. lol).

One other bad experience was with a Cancer-boy, who locked me up inside his room and threatened to not let me out of there until I agreed on marrying him.
Of course he was only maybe 7 and I was 9 years old at that time.
It scared the crap out ofme nevertheless, and I became quite furious. I think I literally started screaming, hitting, kicking and even biting him.
I do not like to be given ultimatums, nor locked in. lol

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posted October 25, 2013 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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One other bad experience was with a Cancer-boy, who locked me up inside his room and threatened to not let me out of there until I agreed on marrying him.



LMAO...thanks for sharing.


Moon in cancer can do stuff similar to that too..

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posted October 25, 2013 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've known quite a few Sags, and I will say that the vast majority of the time I like them. HOWEVER... This kind:

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Sags tend to be outgoing and sassy, and very unpredictable. They do what they want with out thinking of the other person.
I don't have to deal with that, so please show yourself out of my life.

That's a good example, it's hard to hate them because their so pleasant fun and nice. It's just the things they do like endangering their families like you mentioned.
To be honest if my parents did that I would probably never speak to them again.

I'm not easily taken by charms and pleasant behavior
You only get one chance.
There's no excuse to massively **** up everything around you.


...bother me. I've noticed that people here say that you have to have a thick skin because Sags are massively blunt. Well yes, some of them are massively blunt, but that is not ALWAYS true. The ones who are warm, enthusiastic, friendly, and really and truly have their honest moments of bluntness without reservation aren't bothersome. It's the ones who are essentially faking their warmth, enthusiasm, friendliness, etc and feel that they always have to be 'on' and that they always have to say 'yes' that are toxic. They give the false perception that they care about you, but actually, they just don't want to be disliked, so that's when you'll see them act erratically and passive aggressively because they simply don't know how to honestly communicate a simple 'no' or to tell you what they honestly think about a situation. It's the ones who don't behave or speak bluntly that are the ones that usually have an agenda (IMO). I've seen them be very effective 'users' actually. Then what happens is that because they are always so 'positive' no one else believes that they would ever do that, and they get mad at you for calling them out (as mad as someone who is passive aggressive can get) because they are "just being nice." I'm sure it has to do with some other aspects in their chart, but I really genuinely don't know what.

So, while the VAST MAJORITY of the Sags that I've known are realistically blunt, there are the small minority that I have seen be very talented charming manipulators.

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posted October 25, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL ceri my sister has a sag stellium...

She locked me in the bathroom when I was 7 for like 3 hours..
I finally got the window open and I started screaming for help and because were 7 stories.
someone called the cops lmfaaao

******* sags...
She went out with her boyfriend and left me in the bathroom.
I still don't forgive her for that....

You can like your sign, but overall the worlds biggest assholes are born in this sign..

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posted October 25, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL ceri my sister has a sag stellium...

She locked me in the bathroom when I was 7 for like 3 hours..
I finally got the window open and I started screaming for help and because were 7 stories.
someone called the cops lmfaaao

******* sags...
She went out with her boyfriend and left me in the bathroom.
I still don't forgive her for that....

You can like your sign, but overall the worlds biggest assholes are born in this sign..


Oh so now I get it lol. It's more a sibling issue. It's so funny the way people don't like certain signs they had bad experiences with in their families. I'm sorta like that too but try to be flexible because it's not fair to others.

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posted October 25, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAMcA10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
I've known quite a few Sags, and I will say that the vast majority of the time I like them. HOWEVER... This kind:

...bother me. I've noticed that people here say that you have to have a thick skin because Sags are massively blunt. Well yes, some of them are massively blunt, but that is not ALWAYS true. The ones who are warm, enthusiastic, friendly, and really and truly have their honest moments of bluntness without reservation aren't bothersome. It's the ones who are essentially faking their warmth, enthusiasm, friendliness, etc and feel that they always have to be 'on' and that they always have to say 'yes' that are toxic. They give the false perception that they care about you, but actually, they just don't want to be disliked, so that's when you'll see them act erratically and passive aggressively because they simply don't know how to honestly communicate a simple 'no' or to tell you what they honestly think about a situation. It's the ones who don't behave or speak bluntly that are the ones that usually have an agenda (IMO). I've seen them be very effective 'users' actually. Then what happens is that because they are always so 'positive' no one else believes that they would ever do that, and they get mad at you for calling them out (as mad as someone who is passive aggressive can get) because they are "just being nice." I'm sure it has to do with some other aspects in their chart, but I really genuinely don't know what.

So, while the VAST MAJORITY of the Sags that I've known are realistically blunt, there are the small minority that I have seen be very talented charming manipulators.


"Talented charming manipulators" can be found in every sign.

Sags although not scary to me can seem like "way too much" in terms of quantity of travel plans, how busy they are or just how much they are trying to get out of life. And if you confront them about it, they show you just how absolutely normal and par for the course it is for them, thank you very much.

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posted October 25, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh so now I get it lol. It's more a sibling issue. It's so funny the way people don't like certain signs they had bad experiences with in their families. I'm sorta like that too but try to be flexible because it's not fair to others.

No it's not just one person sss...
I don't mind my sister but that one thing she did was irritating, typical sag behavior lol.
I'm not saying every sag alive is horrible but their nature produce such people that are hasty and inconsiderate.
When I mean scary they do things which are abnormal.

on top of my head I could name 8 sags I've had major issues with, I don't consider that a coincidence.
Otherwise I wouldn't believe in astrology.
I don't mind sags until they start acting up and doing crazy things.

Yes there are signs don't really like from my life experience.
I don't their personality traits.

Leo and Libra is an example.
Those signs sextile/trine my own.

Though I think those signs would be perfect together.
As long as they keep away from me.

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posted October 25, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
on top of my head I could name 8 sags I've had major issues with, I don't consider that a coincidence.
Otherwise I wouldn't believe in astrology.

I've seen about the same thing said about EVERY sun sign on this forum at one time or another (and plenty of moon signs, etc). And every single time there are people who agree with it regardless of the sign being condemned.

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posted October 25, 2013 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends what type of sag tbh, there are those superficial types who just want to know everyone, then there's sags like me, who want a deeper understanding of things. I sometimes feel like a scorpio but nothing in my chart indicates this, it could be my mars trine pluto though (mars in the 9th)

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posted October 25, 2013 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No it's not just one person sss...
I don't mind my sister but that one thing she did was irritating, typical sag behavior lol.
I'm not saying every sag alive is horrible but their nature produce such people that are hasty and inconsiderate.
When I mean scary they do things which are abnormal.

on top of my head I could name 8 sags I've had major issues with, I don't consider that a coincidence.
Otherwise I wouldn't believe in astrology.
I don't mind sags until they start acting up and doing crazy things.

Yes there are signs don't really like from my life experience.
I don't their personality traits.

Leo and Libra is an example.
Those signs sextile/trine my own.

Though I think those signs would be perfect together.
As long as they keep away from me.


That makes sense because you have Jupiter in Virgo so these traits are going to be bring your fortune and Virgo squares Sagittarius. Perhaps you feel comforted when you see these traits in others because of Jupiter.

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