posted October 27, 2013 06:01 PM            

My Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th house and lately I've definitely been drawn to Sags and their opposite sign Gemini. I also have Uranus and Neptune in my 7th house, with Aquarius ruling my 8th/9th houses and Pisces ruling my 10th house. Plus Scorpio rules my 5th house and I have Pluto in 5th.

posted October 27, 2013 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Aquarius is on my Desc too and I'm not attracted to Aquarians (romantically).
However, I am attracted to my Desc co-ruler's sign; (Saturn in Pisces), as well as my Secondary Desc ruler's sign (Mercury in Virgo).

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What's a secondary Descendant? How do you find that?

posted October 27, 2013 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
What's a secondary Descendant? How do you find that?

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I'm not Lavendar but here's an explanation on secondary house, including the secondary Dsc.

THE HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTRACTION… SECONDARY HOUSES

After looking the obvious indicators of romantic attraction, as is shown directly by the 5th ,7th and 8th houses, I’ll start examining the HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTACTION in the person’s chart…

Our SECONDARY 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps…

Just as we all have the PRIMARY 5th , 7th and 8th house cusps in our chart, which we all know about, there are also other houses in our chart which function as secondary versions of these houses. A backup, if you will, that provides extra information about our tastes in that area of life… These ‘backup’ houses are called SECONDARY HOUSES, and I’ve found, they can be amazingly revealing in terms of our romantic tastes when scrutinizing the secondary 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps and rulers…

I’ll continue to explain this using the Dsc as an example. But remember that EVERY house in your chart (including the 5th and the 8th ) has another secondary house that functions in a supplementary way regarding the theme that house.

Here’s how it works… (Using the Dsc as an example)

Every sign in the zodiac is naturally linked (on a symbolic level) to a certain house cusp in our chart… Aries is linked to the 1st house, Taurus is linked to the 2nd house, Gemini is linked to the 3rd house, Cancer is linked to the 4th house, and so on….

So if you want to know which of the house cusps in your chart are symbolically linked to your Dsc… look at the sign of the 7th house cusp (our PRIMARY 7th house), and then find the house in your chart that is symbolically linked to your Dsc cusp sign. For example, if you have a Pisces DSC look at the 12th house. In the case of a Pisces Dsc, the 12 house will revel supplementary information about who you are attracted to, and who you have chemistry with. Also look at planets in the 12th, the sign of house ruler, and how this ruler is aspected. In another example, if you have an Aquarius Dsc look at your natal 11th house for extra clues on what you like in partnership. For a Capricorn Dsc look to the 10th house. For a Virgo Dsc look at the 6th house. For an Aries Dsc look at the 1st house, and so on through the zodiac….

The house symbolically linked to the DSC sign is the ‘SECONDARY DSC’ and it can function as an extension of the 7th house….. In terms of what you attract, what type of partnership experiences you have, and what you look for in a partner…. It’s like the secondary Dsc is an ECHO of the primary or original natal 7th house…. The first time an echo bounces it is the clearest and the loudest…. And this echo is shown by the house symbolically linked to the sign on 7th house cusp…

Looking at it in another way… People with an Aries Dsc look for others who ‘energize’ their personality and self assertion…. So when a partner places planets in Libra or Scorpio in this persons 1st house, it will feel like natural partnership material for them. Same thing for people with a Gemini Dsc… They look for those who will energize them in the area of communication…. So when people put planets in this person’s 3rd house of communication, it also brings to the fore issues of partnership… And for people with a Sagittarius Dsc, they look for others that they can share their beliefs with, and explore with, both mentally and physically… So when people put planets into this person’s 9th house it inspires them to want to join forces with this person… And as you can guess it continues like this on through the zodiac using Dsc signs…

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

Can you see the pattern now?

Celebrity examples…

Ryan Reynolds has late Virgo rising, with a Pisces Dsc. His secondary 7th house is the 12th house. So he’s attracted to Pisces and 12th house energy in his love life. He married Blake Lively who has a stellium in early Virgo (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and possibly the Moon) all falling into Ryan’s 12th house… Blake’s Asc is unknown, so we can only guess as to why she was attracted to Ryan.

Angelina Jolie has her planets falling in Brad Pitt’s primary 5th 7th and 8th houses. Brad has Sagittarius rising with Gemini on the 7th house cusp, Aries on the 5th house cusp, and Cancer on the 8th house cusp. Angelina has Sun/Mercury in Gemini, Moon/Mars in Aries, and Venus in Cancer. From Angelina’s side, she has Capricorn on her Dsc. This matches Pitt’s Capricorn Moon/Venus energy, but not his Sagittarius Sun… Well, Angelina’s secondary Dsc is her 10th house cusp. She likes 10th house energy in her love life because of her Capricorn Dsc. Angelina has Jupiter in Aries conjunct her Mc… And Brad is a Sag Asc/Sun ruled by his Jupiter also in Aries…

Katie Holmes has Leo rising with Aqua on the DSC. She likes Aquarius and 11th house energy in her love life. Tom Cruise’s Sun falls in Cancer in her 11th house… Tom Cruise has Scorpio rising with a Taurus DSC. He likes Taurus and 2nd house energy in his love life. Katie’s Sun falls in Sagittarius in his 2nd house. (I know they’re divorced now, but since they were married in the 1st place I’m keeping the example)

Since Tom and Katie are now divorced, lets have a look at their exes, and how they fit into this pattern as well.

Before Tom, Katie was engaged to Chris Klein who had his Sun in Pisces in her 8th house, his Mars in Pisces in her 7th house, and his Venus in Aquarius in her 6th house but in the sign of her Dsc. Plus his Mercury in Aries trines her 5th house ruler Jupiter. He doesn’t hit her secondary Dsc (the 11th house) but since he has his planets in her primary 7th and 8th houses this isn’t necessary for attraction to occur.

Tom has previously been married to Nicole Kidman, and had a several year long relationship with Penelope Cruz.

With Nicole, her Sun in Gemini was in Tom’s primary 8th house, and her Moon in Sagittarius was in was in Tom’s 2nd house. His secondary 7th house due to his Taurus Dsc. So Nicole's Moon is in Tom's secondary 7th house.

Interestingly, from Nicole’s side she has the same Asc as Tom (Scorpio), giving her a Taurus Dsc. Her 2nd house is her secondary 7th house as well. In Nicole’s case, she has the Moon in her second house (the previously mentioned Sagittarius Moon) which adds an attraction to Cancer/Moon types to her profile. Naturally, this is part of why she fell for Tom (a Cancer Sun), and her current love Keith Urban (He has a Cancer Asc, and a Cancer Moon). Also Keith is a Scorpio Sun (Tom’s Asc) and Nicole’s Pisces 5th house cusp ruler Neptune is in Scorpio.

With Penelope, she very much influenced Tom’s primary 7th, and 5th houses. Her Sun in Taurus was smack in his 7th house, and her Pisces Venus and Jupiter were in his 5th house.

From Penelope’s side, she her chart shows an attraction to Tom both in a very obvious primary way, and in a secondary Dsc way. She has a Cancer rising, with a Capricorn Dsc, and her Dsc ruler Saturn is in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign). Her 5th house cusp is Scorpio (Tom’s Asc). Penelope’s Capricorn Dsc means she likes Capricorn and 10th house energy in her love life. Her 10th house cusp is Aries, ruled by Mars in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign again). And, Penelope’s Sun in early Taurus falls at the end of her 10th house, adding an attraction for Leo/Sun people to her profile. Both Tom and Javier Bardem (Penelope’s current husband) have Moon in Leo. Speaking of Javier, his Venus/Saturn conjunction in Aries falls into her 10th house (and thus her secondary 7th house). The combination of Venus and Saturn also symbolically matches her Capricorn Dsc. Javier is a Pisces Sun, and this resonates with Penelope’s Neptune in the 5th house, as well as her Pisces Venus.

With these examples hopefully you can see how house overlays, and also the signs showing up in the partners chart, are further explained by the secondary Dsc. Also look at aspects from the partner’s chart to the Secondary Dsc ruler to further explain your chemistry with that person.

ALL HOUSES HAVE SECONDARY HOUSE CUSPS LIKE THIS

This same pattern can be used on all your other house cusps including the 5th and the 8th if you are interested in looking more deeply into your romantic tastes….

Using myself as an example…. I’ve got Aries on the 5th house cusp, so when people put planets in my 1st house there’s also a romantic overtone added to this overlay. Along with the typical 1st house themes of strengthening my identity, and personal presence… This maybe because with my 5th house cusp being in Aries, these types of issues press my ‘romantic excitement’ buttons, so to speak. Having my sense of identity strengthened and acknowledged by another would feel more exciting and ‘romantic’ for me, then average, because it brings the themes associated to my 5th house cusp sign to ‘life’.

Funnily enough, I get a similar type of experience if someone else’s natal Mars strongly aspects my chart, and also I tend to notice them more if their Mars is strongly aspected with in the context their own chart as well. Like if a person has Mars conjunct the Sun for instance. Or if they have their Mars strongly aspecting my important parts of my chart….

posted October 27, 2013 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I'm not Lavendar but here's an explanation on secondary house, including the secondary Dsc.

THE HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTRACTION… SECONDARY HOUSES

After looking the obvious indicators of romantic attraction, as is shown directly by the 5th ,7th and 8th houses, I’ll start examining the HIDDEN INDICATORS OF ATTACTION in the person’s chart…

Our SECONDARY 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps…

Just as we all have the PRIMARY 5th , 7th and 8th house cusps in our chart, which we all know about, there are also other houses in our chart which function as secondary versions of these houses. A backup, if you will, that provides extra information about our tastes in that area of life… These ‘backup’ houses are called SECONDARY HOUSES, and I’ve found, they can be amazingly revealing in terms of our romantic tastes when scrutinizing the secondary 5th, 7th and 8th house cusps and rulers…

I’ll continue to explain this using the Dsc as an example. But remember that EVERY house in your chart (including the 5th and the 8th ) has another secondary house that functions in a supplementary way regarding the theme that house.

Here’s how it works… (Using the Dsc as an example)

Every sign in the zodiac is naturally linked (on a symbolic level) to a certain house cusp in our chart… Aries is linked to the 1st house, Taurus is linked to the 2nd house, Gemini is linked to the 3rd house, Cancer is linked to the 4th house, and so on….

So if you want to know which of the house cusps in your chart are symbolically linked to your Dsc… look at the sign of the 7th house cusp (our PRIMARY 7th house), and then find the house in your chart that is symbolically linked to your Dsc cusp sign. For example, if you have a Pisces DSC look at the 12th house. In the case of a Pisces Dsc, the 12 house will revel supplementary information about who you are attracted to, and who you have chemistry with. Also look at planets in the 12th, the sign of house ruler, and how this ruler is aspected. In another example, if you have an Aquarius Dsc look at your natal 11th house for extra clues on what you like in partnership. For a Capricorn Dsc look to the 10th house. For a Virgo Dsc look at the 6th house. For an Aries Dsc look at the 1st house, and so on through the zodiac….

The house symbolically linked to the DSC sign is the ‘SECONDARY DSC’ and it can function as an extension of the 7th house….. In terms of what you attract, what type of partnership experiences you have, and what you look for in a partner…. It’s like the secondary Dsc is an ECHO of the primary or original natal 7th house…. The first time an echo bounces it is the clearest and the loudest…. And this echo is shown by the house symbolically linked to the sign on 7th house cusp…

Looking at it in another way… People with an Aries Dsc look for others who ‘energize’ their personality and self assertion…. So when a partner places planets in Libra or Scorpio in this persons 1st house, it will feel like natural partnership material for them. Same thing for people with a Gemini Dsc… They look for those who will energize them in the area of communication…. So when people put planets in this person’s 3rd house of communication, it also brings to the fore issues of partnership… And for people with a Sagittarius Dsc, they look for others that they can share their beliefs with, and explore with, both mentally and physically… So when people put planets into this person’s 9th house it inspires them to want to join forces with this person… And as you can guess it continues like this on through the zodiac using Dsc signs…

FOR ANYONE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATING THE ‘SECONDARY DSC’…

Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows.

Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th House has double importance.

Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… Look to the 8th House.

Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… Look to the 9th House

Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… Look to the 10th House

Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… Look to the 11th House

Virgo rising, Pisces DSC… Look to the 12th House

Libra rising, Aries DSC… Look to the 1st House

Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… Look to the 2nd House

Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… Look to the 3rd House

Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… Look to the 4th House

Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… Look to the 5th House

Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… Look to the 6th House

Can you see the pattern now?

Celebrity examples…

Ryan Reynolds has late Virgo rising, with a Pisces Dsc. His secondary 7th house is the 12th house. So he’s attracted to Pisces and 12th house energy in his love life. He married Blake Lively who has a stellium in early Virgo (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and possibly the Moon) all falling into Ryan’s 12th house… Blake’s Asc is unknown, so we can only guess as to why she was attracted to Ryan.

Angelina Jolie has her planets falling in Brad Pitt’s primary 5th 7th and 8th houses. Brad has Sagittarius rising with Gemini on the 7th house cusp, Aries on the 5th house cusp, and Cancer on the 8th house cusp. Angelina has Sun/Mercury in Gemini, Moon/Mars in Aries, and Venus in Cancer. From Angelina’s side, she has Capricorn on her Dsc. This matches Pitt’s Capricorn Moon/Venus energy, but not his Sagittarius Sun… Well, Angelina’s secondary Dsc is her 10th house cusp. She likes 10th house energy in her love life because of her Capricorn Dsc. Angelina has Jupiter in Aries conjunct her Mc… And Brad is a Sag Asc/Sun ruled by his Jupiter also in Aries…

Katie Holmes has Leo rising with Aqua on the DSC. She likes Aquarius and 11th house energy in her love life. Tom Cruise’s Sun falls in Cancer in her 11th house… Tom Cruise has Scorpio rising with a Taurus DSC. He likes Taurus and 2nd house energy in his love life. Katie’s Sun falls in Sagittarius in his 2nd house. (I know they’re divorced now, but since they were married in the 1st place I’m keeping the example)

Since Tom and Katie are now divorced, lets have a look at their exes, and how they fit into this pattern as well.

Before Tom, Katie was engaged to Chris Klein who had his Sun in Pisces in her 8th house, his Mars in Pisces in her 7th house, and his Venus in Aquarius in her 6th house but in the sign of her Dsc. Plus his Mercury in Aries trines her 5th house ruler Jupiter. He doesn’t hit her secondary Dsc (the 11th house) but since he has his planets in her primary 7th and 8th houses this isn’t necessary for attraction to occur.

Tom has previously been married to Nicole Kidman, and had a several year long relationship with Penelope Cruz.

With Nicole, her Sun in Gemini was in Tom’s primary 8th house, and her Moon in Sagittarius was in was in Tom’s 2nd house. His secondary 7th house due to his Taurus Dsc. So Nicole's Moon is in Tom's secondary 7th house.

Interestingly, from Nicole’s side she has the same Asc as Tom (Scorpio), giving her a Taurus Dsc. Her 2nd house is her secondary 7th house as well. In Nicole’s case, she has the Moon in her second house (the previously mentioned Sagittarius Moon) which adds an attraction to Cancer/Moon types to her profile. Naturally, this is part of why she fell for Tom (a Cancer Sun), and her current love Keith Urban (He has a Cancer Asc, and a Cancer Moon). Also Keith is a Scorpio Sun (Tom’s Asc) and Nicole’s Pisces 5th house cusp ruler Neptune is in Scorpio.

With Penelope, she very much influenced Tom’s primary 7th, and 5th houses. Her Sun in Taurus was smack in his 7th house, and her Pisces Venus and Jupiter were in his 5th house.

From Penelope’s side, she her chart shows an attraction to Tom both in a very obvious primary way, and in a secondary Dsc way. She has a Cancer rising, with a Capricorn Dsc, and her Dsc ruler Saturn is in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign). Her 5th house cusp is Scorpio (Tom’s Asc). Penelope’s Capricorn Dsc means she likes Capricorn and 10th house energy in her love life. Her 10th house cusp is Aries, ruled by Mars in Cancer (Tom’s Sun sign again). And, Penelope’s Sun in early Taurus falls at the end of her 10th house, adding an attraction for Leo/Sun people to her profile. Both Tom and Javier Bardem (Penelope’s current husband) have Moon in Leo. Speaking of Javier, his Venus/Saturn conjunction in Aries falls into her 10th house (and thus her secondary 7th house). The combination of Venus and Saturn also symbolically matches her Capricorn Dsc. Javier is a Pisces Sun, and this resonates with Penelope’s Neptune in the 5th house, as well as her Pisces Venus.

With these examples hopefully you can see how house overlays, and also the signs showing up in the partners chart, are further explained by the secondary Dsc. Also look at aspects from the partner’s chart to the Secondary Dsc ruler to further explain your chemistry with that person.

ALL HOUSES HAVE SECONDARY HOUSE CUSPS LIKE THIS

This same pattern can be used on all your other house cusps including the 5th and the 8th if you are interested in looking more deeply into your romantic tastes….

Using myself as an example…. I’ve got Aries on the 5th house cusp, so when people put planets in my 1st house there’s also a romantic overtone added to this overlay. Along with the typical 1st house themes of strengthening my identity, and personal presence… This maybe because with my 5th house cusp being in Aries, these types of issues press my ‘romantic excitement’ buttons, so to speak. Having my sense of identity strengthened and acknowledged by another would feel more exciting and ‘romantic’ for me, then average, because it brings the themes associated to my 5th house cusp sign to ‘life’.

Funnily enough, I get a similar type of experience if someone else’s natal Mars strongly aspects my chart, and also I tend to notice them more if their Mars is strongly aspected with in the context their own chart as well. Like if a person has Mars conjunct the Sun for instance. Or if they have their Mars strongly aspecting my important parts of my chart….

Again, I think this is part of the ‘echo’ that comes from the primary natal 5th, 7th and 8th houses…This echo can manifest in THREE ways. And by ‘echo’ I’m referring to those relationship connections that include, and also go beyond, direct 5th, 7th and 8th house overlays (which we are all traditionally taught to see as the be all, and end all, of relationship synastry and overlays)… You have to stretch you mind a little to see these ones. But with practice you'll start to notice some repeating themes, similar to what I’ve written above.

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Oh, those!
I knew about those, but I didn't know what they were called. I didn't know that about the Synastry part of it and how you put certain planets in each person's house and stuff though, that's pretty cool and interesting.
(Haven't really looked too much into Synastry)

WOW! Thanks for the very long and detailed explanation and many examples Lotis, it was very informative

I appreciate all that help, thank you very much

I thought that Lavender was mentioning depositors to get her secondary Descendant, but she was referring to both because she said she had an Aquarius DSC and her 11th is Gemini, so I thought it would be Gemini, but I forgot to go further into Gemini's ruler; Mercury, which is in Virgo. (I missed that she said her "Secondary DSC's ruler", which is Mercury)
So she used a depositor. Because her 3rd House Cusp is Libra I believe, not Virgo, so she couldn't have been referring to use her 3rd House (Gemini's house)as a third DSC significator because then it will be Libra, not Virgo, so she had to of used her Secondary DSC's (Gemini) dipositor; Mercury, which is in Virgo.

In my case, I have an Aquarius DSC with Uranus in Capricorn (using Uranus's position as a secondary ruler will put my 10th House in Taurus with Venus in Libra) and Saturn in Pisces, (using Saturn's position as a secondary ruler will put my 12th House in Cancer with Moon in Gemini and Mercury in Libra) a Gemini 11th House cusp with Moon in Gemini in the 11th there, then I have Mercury in Libra in the 3rd House cusp (to top it off as a third DSC significator if there is one) with it's ruler; Venus, in Libra as well, but in the 2nd House, so it stops there.

My 5th House cusp is Sagittarius with Jupiter there but in the 4th House, Aries is my 9th House cusp with Mars and Pluto in Scorpio, so it stops there.

My 8th House cusp is Pisces and my 12th House cusp is Cancer with Moon in Gemini, which then goes to Mercury in Libra, so it stops there.

posted October 28, 2013 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Oh, those!
I knew about those, but I didn't know what they were called. I didn't know that about the Synastry part of it and how you put certain planets in each person's house and stuff though, that's pretty cool and interesting.
(Haven't really looked too much into Synastry)

WOW! Thanks for the very long and detailed explanation and many examples Lotis, it was very informative

I appreciate all that help, thank you very much

I thought that Lavender was mentioning depositors to get her secondary Descendant, but she was referring to both because she said she had an Aquarius DSC and her 11th is Gemini, so I thought it would be Gemini, but I forgot to go further into Gemini's ruler; Mercury, which is in Virgo. (I missed that she said her "Secondary DSC's ruler", which is Mercury)
So she used a depositor. Because her 3rd House Cusp is Libra I believe, not Virgo, so she couldn't have been referring to use her 3rd House (Gemini's house)as a third DSC significator because then it will be Libra, not Virgo, so she had to of used her Secondary DSC's (Gemini) dipositor; Mercury, which is in Virgo.

In my case, I have an Aquarius DSC with Uranus in Capricorn (using Uranus's position as a secondary ruler will put my 10th House in Taurus with Venus in Libra) and Saturn in Pisces, (using Saturn's position as a secondary ruler will put my 12th House in Cancer with Moon in Gemini and Mercury in Libra) a Gemini 11th House cusp with Moon in Gemini in the 11th there, then I have Mercury in Libra in the 3rd House cusp (to top it off as a third DSC significator if there is one) with it's ruler; Venus, in Libra as well, but in the 2nd House, so it stops there.

My 5th House cusp is Sagittarius with Jupiter there but in the 4th House, Aries is my 9th House cusp with Mars and Pluto in Scorpio, so it stops there.

My 8th House cusp is Pisces and my 12th House cusp is Cancer with Moon in Gemini, which then goes to Mercury in Libra, so it stops there.

But I'm attracted to Virgo energies the most, so how can that be?
Is the only possible reason because my Secondary DSC's ruler; Mercury, rules Virgo as well?

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Mercurian Intellect,

If you have an Aquarius Dsc, then you'd look at the 11th house as your secondary 7th house. This is because Aquarius traditionally rules the 11th house. So you'd look at the 11th house and it's ruler, like Lavendar.... For most with Aqua Dsc this turns out to be Gemini and it's ruler Mercury by house and sign.

You'd look at the original 7th house in the same way. You'd look at what's in the 7th house, and it's ruler/co-rulers by sign and house. If you have Uranus in Capricorn and you have an Aqua Dsc, then Uranus your Dsc ruler is probably in the 6th house. The 6th house is the Virgo house! I think in your case that may be a reason you like Virgo energy. Plus, if the Dsc ruler is in the 6th house and in an Earth sign (Capricorn), this would heighten the draw to Virgo energy in others.

posted October 28, 2013 02:28 AM            

I have a Scorpio descendant and to be honest, I'm not that attracted to Scorpios or Scorpio placements. I even have Pluto in the seventh house.

Is this "non attraction" in the form of dislike or is it indifference?

Pluto can go both ways but rarely suggests indifference.

And also note. Just because you have Scorpio on the DSC , doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be drawn strictly to Scorpio Sun's and Moons.

Perhaps the lover you are attracted to has planets in the 8th house, maybe they have aspects to Pluto? Maybe they have Scorpio on the Asc.

Having Pluto in the 7th, to me, suggests that relationships are viewed as a tranforming experience: Not to be taken in half measures(this is a strongly Scorpio theme).The position, for the 7th house, is higly potent.

I have Venus in the 7th house cusp of Scorpio and I do view relationships as "merging" and "sharing secrets with the other" etc.

Though I may not be as heavily invetsed as someone with Pluto in the 7th, I also expect to be transformed and touched to the core.

posted October 28, 2013 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Mercurian Intellect,

If you have an Aquarius Dsc, then you'd look at the 11th house as your secondary 7th house. This is because Aquarius traditionally rules the 11th house. So you'd look at the 11th house and it's ruler, like Lavendar.... For most with Aqua Dsc this turns out to be Gemini and it's ruler Mercury by house and sign.

You'd look at the original 7th house in the same way. You'd look at what's in the 7th house, and it's ruler/co-rulers by sign and house. If you have Uranus in Capricorn and you have an Aqua Dsc, then Uranus your Dsc ruler is probably in the 6th house. The 6th house is the Virgo house! I think in your case that may be a reason you like Virgo energy. Plus, if the Dsc ruler is in the 6th house and in an Earth sign (Capricorn), this would heighten the draw to Virgo energy in others.

Also, where are your Venus and Juno?

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Yeah, I said that but then I think I added to many details with that and you might have missed me say my 11th House is Gemini and so on...

I was also saying in the other DSC thread that Uranus is in the 6th so this can be why, put you pointed out that Uranus is in an earth sign as well, which will heighten the Virgo earth attraction more, which I didn't realize

posted October 28, 2013 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi there,

Do you mind if I ask you how you feel about your 8th house sign for a partner… Sign on the cusp of the 8th, and the location of it’s ruler?

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Sagittarius? I like them, but again, far from the top of my list. I like some Sagittarius placements, like the moon there for example...but in general, I'm not super attracted to Sagittarius placements. Hmm, the one person that I was truly in love with was a Taurus with a Sagittarius moon...

By it's ruler you mean Jupiter, right? I also have that in the 7th.

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
So Earthypisces, If you’re not drawn to the Scorpio part of your 7th house, maybe the 8th house (which is ruled by Scorpio traditionally) resonates with you more in terms of what you’re attracted to.

Another thing I’d like to point out is the position of Mars, and the house traditionally ruled by the sign of Mars. For instance, if a girl has Mars in Aquarius she might be really attracted to guys with strong Aquarius or Uranus in their charts, or to men with planets in her 11th house natally. It works for men with Venus too. If a guy has Venus in Virgo, he may be attracted to Virgo traits in women, and he may be attracted to women who put planets in his 6th house natally.

Earthypisces, where’s your Mars (I’m assuming you’re a women) , and what house does the sign of your Mars traditionally rule? Are you drawn to these placements?[/b]

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Nah lol I'm a guy that likes other guys.

I have retrograde Leo Mars in the 4th and Capricorn Venus in the 9th.

I'm really attracted to Aquarius Mars people for some reason.

posted October 28, 2013 05:35 PM            

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posted October 28, 2013 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
[b]earthypisces

I have a Scorpio descendant and to be honest, I'm not that attracted to Scorpios or Scorpio placements. I even have Pluto in the seventh house.

Is this "non attraction" in the form of dislike or is it indifference?

Pluto can go both ways but rarely suggests indifference. [/B]

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I'd say neither. I have a lot of Scorpio friends, I'm just not that attracted to them in romantic relationship kind of way.

posted October 29, 2013 02:35 PM              

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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
Good question I think. I get along very well with Pisces, am emotionally attracted to them, and feel an instant connection. But ultimately I need more passion.

I eventually end up running roughshod over them, then get bored when they don't push back. Maybe if they had another personal planet or two in a fire sign things would be better.

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posted May 08, 2014 03:52 PM            

As you may know, I ve recently found out that I m supposed to be a Leo AC, after all, instead of Virgo. That feels more natural to me, just from the feeling, also with the aspects it would make, - although I can t deny I have some traits of a virgo (but then my mercury is 5degree conjunct my sun and with a leo AC my mercury would be exactly on my MC, which would explain my love of writing etc. I'm defititely NOT nagging, criticizing others and I appear MESSY and OPEN at first sight!

BUT the way I love is definitely NEPTUNE!: I idealise my partners, I want to merge with them, I m very romantical!!
However, my DC would be uranus??
Uranus would be in scorpio in the 4th with no major aspects!

I like aquas, I find them sexy, but have NEVER BEEN romantically involved. I like sun and moon in aqua, sun=sexy, moon=platonically exciting. I'm totally indifferent to aqua AC though I have many aqua AC friends!
I ve always put a big step around scorpios, I ve "hated" them! (I have a taurus stellium but IC in scorpio and scorpio opposition on aries moon??? With the years this has become better!
I m incredibly drawn to pisces energy, as I said, especially the moon! I ve never known so with pisces AC!??
I m sometimes totally drawn to cancer energy, especially the moon.

OK, my leo DC would be in the last degrees, which would most pisces placements fall into my 7th house, also, neptune is my 8th house ruler.

But then WHY do I love pisces style???
How do you love, when you say your re not drawn to your DC sign/ people with those placements???

Also: I get along better with Fire/Air suns, and I now notice that many of my best friends have Leo AC or Acqua AC. No one I know has Pisces/Virgo!

posted May 08, 2014 04:10 PM            

As you may know, I ve recently found out that I m supposed to be a Leo AC, after all, instead of Virgo. That feels more natural to me, just from the feeling, also with the aspects it would make, - although I can t deny I have some traits of a virgo (but then my mercury is 5degree conjunct my sun and with a leo AC my mercury would be exactly on my MC, which would explain my love of writing etc. I'm defititely NOT nagging, criticizing others and I appear MESSY and OPEN at first sight!

BUT the way I love is definitely NEPTUNE!: I idealise my partners, I want to merge with them, I m very romantical!!
However, my DC would be uranus??
Uranus would be in scorpio in the 4th with no major aspects!

I like aquas, I find them sexy, but have NEVER BEEN romantically involved. I like sun and moon in aqua, sun=sexy, moon=platonically exciting. I'm totally indifferent to aqua AC though I have many aqua AC friends!
I ve always put a big step around scorpios, I ve "hated" them! (I have a taurus stellium but IC in scorpio and scorpio opposition on aries moon??? With the years this has become better!
I m incredibly drawn to pisces energy, as I said, especially the moon! I ve never known so with pisces AC!??
I m sometimes totally drawn to cancer energy, especially the moon.

OK, my leo DC would be in the last degrees, which would most pisces placements fall into my 7th house, also, neptune is my 8th house ruler.

But then WHY do I love pisces style???
How do you love, when you say your re not drawn to your DC sign/ people with those placements???

Also: I get along better with Fire/Air suns, and I now notice that many of my best friends have Leo AC or Acqua AC. No one I know has Pisces/Virgo!

posted May 08, 2014 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by earthypisces:
I have a Scorpio descendant and to be honest, I'm not that attracted to Scorpios or Scorpio placements. I even have Pluto in the seventh house.

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I am.

posted May 08, 2014 04:24 PM            

How about the others and your 7th house?