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Gabby
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posted October 28, 2013 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transit Pluto cap@9.21
Tr. Uranus aries@9.32rx

Also an opposition-
Tr. Mars virgo@8.01
Tr. Chiron pisces@9.20rx

I was wondering why ive been feeling like a 100lb of bricks just landed on top of me!
LOL, here we go, ive only got a few years left before its over! Ugh!
My IC cap@9.47
My DC aries@8.43
Tr. Mars is inconjunct my DC also....
Its felt somewhat like a hostile world lately, nothing really extreme but everywhere i go theres someone or something in my way and i have to find a different route.....it seems like every male driving on the road is trying to run you off the road.....and if im not on my toes and double checking everything, the people around me are making mistakes that i'm having to go back and fix. It feels like my patience is being tested, lol!
Maybe theres something in my progressed chart also to explain some of this.
Fortunately knowing astrology, i haven't been taking it personally, figured there was something in the transits to explain this...

They are about to hit my natal libra pluto@11.04 and Tr. Chiron will be squaring my neptune saggy@11.05 soon, on top of that tr. pisces neptune will square my saggy sun@4/merc@3 around the same time....ugh, any suggestions for survival? LOL

Anyone else experiencing anything with these transits?

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posted October 28, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, my progressed AC/DC is scorpio/taurus@9.....maybe thats going to be a saving grace in helping with survival through this!

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posted October 28, 2013 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. My natal Saturn and Pluto are at 12 and 8 degrees, respectively. Pluto I can deal with (so far...*knocks on wood*), but I wish Uranus would go away.

Otherwise, yeah...people seem slightly more tense or volatile in general.

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posted October 29, 2013 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Yes. My natal Saturn and Pluto are at 12 and 8 degrees, respectively. Pluto I can deal with (so far...*knocks on wood*), but I wish Uranus would go away.

Otherwise, yeah...people seem slightly more tense or volatile in general.


Are your saturn and pluto both in cap? Uranus is really annoying when its being squared by something, my natal uranus is squared by saturn....what an awful energy, your afraid to express yourself...until you finally explode in a rebellious frustration!

Glad its not just me 'thinking' im feeling the tension...im hoping its going to lighten up a little bit!
Right now its so closely aspecting me, its very obvious for me, unfortunately its going to be moving back and forth over my placements for awhile....im hoping it wont feel quite as strong after ive dealt with it for a little while!

Cant believe its going to be years of this off and on, lol!

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posted October 29, 2013 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what you mean.
My Saturn is in Cancer, and Pluto in Libra. Thankfully it will be a number of years before Pluto is conjunct my Cap Mars at 26 degrees.

So yeah, Uranus and Pluto are squaring/opposing my natal Saturn and Pluto, back and forth, and Neptune has just recently started hovering over my Sun and opposing my Moon. Blechh.

You're definitely not alone!

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posted October 29, 2013 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This woman puts it all together in a way that made sense to me...maybe you can relate http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222960.html
Even though the big ones are ongoing, this week is special, here's anne ortelee is you'r einterested too! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/anne-ortelee/2013/10/27/anne-ortelees-weekly-weather

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posted October 29, 2013 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah that is the reason then!

I am having natal Pluto on 9 Libra
(natal Venus on 6 Cap).

natal ASC, Neptune, NN on 7 and 10 Sag

pr ASC on 9 Capricorn
pr Proserpina on 9 Capricorn as well, which is chilling, considering where natal and Transit Pluto are located!

pr Amor on 7 Capricorn (a tad wide)

Tr Psyche on 9 Sag, exactly conjunct my natal Neptune and NN - great as if I needed more psychic noise!


Tr PErsephone on 9 Sag, too (sextile my Pluto exact - I am doomed to go to the underworld I guess.)


Tr Icarus on 8 Cap - let`s take care we don`t fly too high (btw that looks ominous for travelling by air actually, Icarus conj. Pluto, square Uranus in the transit chart. Ouch)


Speaking in mundane terms, the night of Samhain or HAlloween, looks like something might get triggered, as the Tr Moon will be on 9 Libra, setting off the square.

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posted October 29, 2013 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put up the Samhain chart, when Tr Moon will be exactly triggering the Uranus-Pluto-chart; the angles are of course only valid for my location.


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With Moon-Hekate there, it will be a true witchy night I think.


This is my natal chart with the transits; it seems to be a very intersting night.
Also definitely an Adonis - Ishtar theme for me; as a matter of fact, if I am doing a composite with this moment, Adonis is exactly trine Ishtar in that composite, with Ishtar being on my true Lilith.

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posted October 29, 2013 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
This woman puts it all together in a way that made sense to me...maybe you can relate http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222960.html
Even though the big ones are ongoing, this week is special, here's anne ortelee is you'r einterested too! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/anne-ortelee/2013/10/27/anne-ortelees-weekly-weather

Thank you for sharing that, it is so helpful in understanding what we are up against right now! Wow!

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posted October 29, 2013 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
ah that is the reason then!

I am having natal Pluto on 9 Libra
(natal Venus on 6 Cap).

natal ASC, Neptune, NN on 7 and 10 Sag

pr ASC on 9 Capricorn
pr Proserpina on 9 Capricorn as well, which is chilling, considering where natal and Transit Pluto are located!

pr Amor on 7 Capricorn (a tad wide)

Tr Psyche on 9 Sag, exactly conjunct my natal Neptune and NN - great as if I needed more psychic noise!


Tr PErsephone on 9 Sag, too (sextile my Pluto exact - I am doomed to go to the underworld I guess.)


Tr Icarus on 8 Cap - let`s take care we don`t fly too high (btw that looks ominous for travelling by air actually, Icarus conj. Pluto, square Uranus in the transit chart. Ouch)


Speaking in mundane terms, the night of Samhain or HAlloween, looks like something might get triggered, as the Tr Moon will be on 9 Libra, setting off the square.


LOL....right now the underworld might be a nice little vacation/escape from what we are having to deal with up here!

I didnt even think to look where my Persephone and Prosperpina are in progressions....ill have to check that out!

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posted October 29, 2013 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ouch, that yod touching the t-square in the Samhain chart, does not look pretty at all!

My Pluto libra@11 and Ascendant libra@9 are right there with your pluto on the Hekate moon, then my natal Hekate is libra@25.

Im not sure what will be felt from this but my natal eros is cap@9 and valentine cap@10 on my cap IC, ill have transit pluto conjunct this spot and square my natal pluto at the same time....wow??

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posted October 29, 2013 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Ouch, that yod touching the t-square in the Samhain chart, does not look pretty at all!


Yeah not a lightweight at all.

So many planets and asteroids around the 9 degrees.

Mars
Moon (Hekate)
NN, Sun, Mercury (Karma)
(Psyche, Persephone)
Pluto
Juno
Chiron
Uranus
(Amor)

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posted October 29, 2013 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Ouch, that yod touching the t-square in the Samhain chart, does not look pretty at all!

My Pluto libra@11 and Ascendant libra@9 are right there with your pluto on the Hekate moon, then my natal Hekate is libra@25.

Im not sure what will be felt from this but my natal eros is cap@9 and valentine cap@10 on my cap IC, ill have transit pluto conjunct this spot and square my natal pluto at the same time....wow??



intense transformational time especially in terms of deep romantic and erotic love.
You will have no choice, but will be dragged along by the tidal wave, and with the square it is a bumpy ride.
But I supposea necessary one.
Have you read my last post from the Sappho thread, I think that was a description about how it is for me.

AT the time I wrote this:
my pr Moon had just been conjunct my pr DESC on 8 Cancer, squaring natal Pluto, with Tr BML being conjunct my natal DESC.

I have had two years of strong Pluto to Moon or Venus-symbolism. It does not leave anyone unchanged, however I donīt regret a moment of it, I wouldnīt give away one single tear I shed, they were precious reminders of insights, changes taking place. Very needed.
I definitely am not the same person as I have been 2 years or even one year before.
But actually I like it that way. This is where or how I am supposed to be just now, this moment. So everything is alright. It`s not up to me to control everything. I canīt do it anyway.So I am just sitting back and see where the flow will take me. Fighting against it is to no avail anyway. Not that it is always easy, but that is the lesson of these times for me.
Embracing eternity in a single moment. That is just it.


EDIT:
Interestingly my pr Valentine has just passed natal True NOde (0°35 separating)

You would think I had met and gotten together with the love of my life right now.
Apparently it did not happen, no wedding bells, nothing.
Still love definitely became a big part of my lifepath, of my lesson. But first of all learning to love myself, I guess.

Well pr Valentine is still conjunct pr Neptune (0°26 a), I guess it is all just a very gentle, misty thing to have. Not really outspoken or clear.


interestingly my pr Aphrodite is applying to exact cojunction with my DNA-Sappho-conjunction in Libra.

I just find it curious that the year Aphrodite would apply to DNA, I decided (without knowing that before) to get back in shape. Sounds fitting, doesn`t it?


pr Sappho is conjunct my Uranus and pr Adonis.

pr Moon conjuncts pr Destinn on 14 Cancer exact
pr Eros conjuncts n Destinn on 23 Cancer

And Tr Destinn is conjunct pr SAturn on 13 Cancer, and of course also conjunct pr Moon and pr Destinn.


Interesting, so much Moon-Cancer involvement along with the Venus/Aphrodite-Libra theme

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posted October 29, 2013 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My saggy neptune@11 and libra pluto@11, i dont think they will be getting hit to hard this minute because they are not exact, but my poor angles are getting it coming and going!
My whole house is going up in flames right now!
Knock on wood!!!
Actually, i guess pluto would be too cold to set anything on fire but it might freeze me out!

The energy definitely has been different, today it seemed nobody was looking anyone in the eyes...the friendly'ness is just gone right now! People are either pushy and rude or quiet and somber.
I cant believe what my daughter told me, she said on Halloween kids are trying to get other kids to agree to make it 'Kill Pit Bulls' day. If people leave their dogs in their back yards these kids come along and see it, they feel they have the right to kill the dog! We have a sheep dog and im not even leaving him outside if this is the energy that going around right now! I think thats horrible!

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posted October 29, 2013 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is horrible!

But yes, seriously the Uranus-Pluto-square up in the sky is chilling, literally.
Something might blow up. I hope not, but it just, there is too much power accesible right now.
And this can go very good or really bad.

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posted October 29, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

intense transformational time especially in terms of deep romantic and erotic love.
You will have no choice, but will be dragged along by the tidal wave, and with the square it is a bumpy ride.
But I supposea necessary one.
Have you read my last post from the Sappho thread, I think that was a description about how it is for me.

AT the time I wrote this:
my pr Moon had just been conjunct my pr DESC on 8 Cancer, squaring natal Pluto, with Tr BML being conjunct my natal DESC.

I have had two years of strong Pluto to Moon or Venus-symbolism. It does not leave anyone unchanged, however I donīt regret a moment of it, I wouldnīt give away one single tear I shed, they were precious reminders of insights, changes taking place. Very needed.
I definitely am not the same person as I have been 2 years or even one year before.
But actually I like it that way. This is where or how I am supposed to be just now, this moment. So everything is alright. It`s not up to me to control everything. I canīt do it anyway.So I am just sitting back and see where the flow will take me. Fighting against it is to no avail anyway. Not that it is always easy, but that is the lesson of these times for me.
Embracing eternity in a single moment. That is just it.


EDIT:
Interestingly my pr Valentine has just passed natal True NOde (0°35 separating)

You would think I had met and gotten together with the love of my life right now.
Apparently it did not happen, no wedding bells, nothing.
Still love definitely became a big part of my lifepath, of my lesson. But first of all learning to love myself, I guess.

Well pr Valentine is still conjunct pr Neptune (0°26 a), I guess it is all just a very gentle, misty thing to have. Not really outspoken or clear.


interestingly my pr Aphrodite is applying to exact cojunction with my DNA-Sappho-conjunction in Libra.

I just find it curious that the year Aphrodite would apply to DNA, I decided (without knowing that before) to get back in shape. Sounds fitting, doesn`t it?


pr Sappho is conjunct my Uranus and pr Adonis.

pr Moon conjuncts pr Destinn on 14 Cancer exact
pr Eros conjuncts n Destinn on 23 Cancer

And Tr Destinn is conjunct pr SAturn on 13 Cancer, and of course also conjunct pr Moon and pr Destinn.


Interesting, so much Moon-Cancer involvement along with the Venus/Aphrodite-Libra theme


Wow, no i didnt see your Sappho thread, im going to have to go look for that!
Im a bit terrified of this transit...lol!
Im trying to stay hidden in my room alone through this transit, i dont want or need any romantic anything! My heart has been pummeled enough for 10 life times, im giving it a breather right now...maybe thats what ill learn how to sacrifice love with someone else, to save myself?
Ummm, i doubt it, but keep your fingers crossed right? LOL

I dont know how i could get more lessons in love and loss...i dont have anything! THEN Aries Uranus hits my DC also....Ugh, at the same time Pluto is conjuncting eros/valentine/Ic and squaring pluto....?
heres my angles--
Libra AC@9/Libra Pluto@11
Aries DC@9 with transit Aries Uranus
Cap IC@10/Eros/Valentine with transit Cap Pluto
WHAT KIND OF MESS IS THAT?!!

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posted October 29, 2013 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With all that going on in your chart the last couple years....do you think you learned to value loving yourself for the first time? I mean its been good for you, even though its hurt....but do you think its helped you know yourself better and have a better idea of your needs so next time its going to be a love that doesnt hurt you?
Im guess im asking for hope here...lol

Congratulations about your weight loss, thats truly something to be proud of!

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posted October 29, 2013 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oct 4 2014 my progressed venus hits my Sun exact, and transit Uranus hits my natal Jupiter in my 7th house....i hope that will bring good luck in relationships for me...im sure after this year i will be much wiser regarding relationships!

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posted October 29, 2013 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is extremely difficult to escape the energies in the skies at the moment. My natal Chiron sits at 9 Aries in the 11th. Then I have Sun at 13 Aries, Uranus at 11 Libra and Mars at 13 Capricorn.....Oh and Pallas is around 7 or 8 of Aries.

I am slowly transforming. Hidden stuff about myself is coming up. Many things are afoot for me.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
With all that going on in your chart the last couple years....do you think you learned to value loving yourself for the first time? I mean its been good for you, even though its hurt....but do you think its helped you know yourself better and have a better idea of your needs so next time its going to be a love that doesnt hurt you?
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Yes. Though I would say it is a re-gaining of that feeling of self and identity. I am not yet ready to say I am really confident in myself, but I am muchm ore accepting of myself (and find myself more accepting of the weird notion that other people could like me for the complete person I am, not just my mind or because I am pretty useful or something like that).

I am very convinced that before really being able to accept love (not the warped kind) of another person and to love them back, you first have to love yourself. I mean it. "Fall in love with yourself. First step.
After all you are the only person you have to live with your whole life through.


However, what you said there "next time its going to be a love that doesnt hurt you".

No, that is not how it works, not for me anyway.
If it is love, if accepting feelings, then yes it will sometimes hurt as well. It is part of being alive, just like happiness is.
If someone you love goes away, even if just for a time, you are going to miss them, that is hurting, too.
But it is a good hurt, it shows you you care.

And even though love and life sometimes will hurt, you will know that it is just part of the whole package, and that it will get better again. You will not die from it, you will survive it and become stronger than before; it is actually more hurtful to cling to rigidity and trying to block out every feeling, just because it might hurt, if you lose the person.

Life means taking emotional risks like that. Embrace it all. That is the only thing I can say. And it hurts? yes, sometimes it does. THANK HEAVENS it does. It means you are a living, feeling, loving, compassionate being. It is the beauty (sometimes the melancholic beauty) of being human.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
Oct 4 2014 my progressed venus hits my Sun exact, and transit Uranus hits my natal Jupiter in my 7th house....i hope that will bring good luck in relationships for me...im sure after this year i will be much wiser regarding relationships!

you mioght meet the love of your life.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cynnared:
It is extremely difficult to escape the energies in the skies at the moment. My natal Chiron sits at 9 Aries in the 11th. Then I have Sun at 13 Aries, Uranus at 11 Libra and Mars at 13 Capricorn.....Oh and Pallas is around 7 or 8 of Aries.

I am slowly transforming. Hidden stuff about myself is coming up. Many things are afoot for me.


But isn`t it also a gift? A chance for living more truthfully?

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posted October 29, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hadn't noticed that Karma is right in the mix for this eclipse picture...should be interesting indeed with all the rest of what is going on

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posted October 29, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes. Though I would say it is a re-gaining of that feeling of self and identity. I am not yet ready to say I am really confident in myself, but I am muchm ore accepting of myself (and find myself more accepting of the weird notion that other people could like me for the complete person I am, not just my mind or because I am pretty useful or something like that).

I am very convinced that before really being able to accept love (not the warped kind) of another person and to love them back, you first have to love yourself. I mean it. "Fall in love with yourself. First step.
After all you are the only person you have to live with your whole life through.


However, what you said there "next time its going to be a love that doesnt hurt you".

No, that is not how it works, not for me anyway.
If it is love, if accepting feelings, then yes it will sometimes hurt as well. It is part of being alive, just like happiness is.
If someone you love goes away, even if just for a time, you are going to miss them, that is hurting, too.
But it is a good hurt, it shows you you care.

And even though love and life sometimes will hurt, you will know that it is just part of the whole package, and that it will get better again. You will not die from it, you will survive it and become stronger than before; it is actually more hurtful to cling to rigidity and trying to block out every feeling, just because it might hurt, if you lose the person.

Life means taking emotional risks like that. Embrace it all. That is the only thing I can say. And it hurts? yes, sometimes it does. THANK HEAVENS it does. It means you are a living, feeling, loving, compassionate being. It is the beauty (sometimes the melancholic beauty) of being human.


Im hoping after all this ill feel like you!

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posted October 29, 2013 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s still a long way to go.

On good days I feel like this. There are not always good days though. But getting there, the direction is the right one, that is what counts.

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