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PlutoFish
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posted October 30, 2013 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 23:
A cancer moon might be faulty but that's because the moon is faulty. Every planet has faults, however, it is domicile in its own sign, it will act to its best potential, it will be acting as it should and this is considered "good" - the planet is effective. By having the Moon in Capricorn, you are denying the true nature of the planet.

It baffles me that young astrologers who practice modern astrology to say "ooooh, I would love to have a Mars in Taurus or Sun in Aquarius". You have to realise they are In detriment for a reason, just like Capricorn Moon. The Moon is changeable, instinctual, has few boundaries, it operates best in cancer. The Sun shines and it is the ego in modern astrology, it is to shine but it is no good in the dead of winter (Aquarius), it can't shine behind the clouds furtherest from Earth, it can't make life grow, reproduce. Mars is fast and direct and you are asking a force to cut through hard rock -Taurus.

You might say its great for human endeavours, keeping control of situations. Great if you are the Queen of England. You have your emotions under control. Well, what happens if that assassin is coming after you and the bodyguards are all dead?


To me Domicile, detriment etc, are all just a matter of opinion. Obviously it goes by what is home to the sign and what is most comfortable, accepted, but that doesn't mean they are the whole truth.

Everyone has different views on what is good and bad, those definitions most probably go by standards of society or what is considered to be positive/negative & good/bad, what is negative about having self control & disciple where others don't, i see it it as a positive.

and imo aspects are of most importance after the planet, house, sign, the aspects just configured how they all relate to eachother and combine..

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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posted October 30, 2013 12:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree too it is a matter of opinion!

My favorite placements are moon in scorpio and Mercury in pisces.

I like the characteristics of these placements.

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posted October 30, 2013 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a thief (say planet and it is Mars), and it accosts a friend (trine), it is still a thief. It might not rob their friend but it is a thief nonetheless. If a thief meets an enemy (opposition), it is still a thief and might act on it. Yes, aspects might modify behaviour but it doesn't change the ESSENCE of the planet.

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posted October 30, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, these days it's all about opinion and your opinion and her opinion.

Well there was this dude that was around in the 1st/2nd century called Ptolemy. Guess what? He just happened to be an astrologer and he invented this table called Table of Essential Dignities. Here it is:
http://planetwaves.net/news/table-of-essential-dignities/

It was only used for about 1600 years. It's partly used today but I guess it's just crap today according to some of you.

Eta - your entitled to favourites as it suits you the best but objectively and with the total sum of humans, a detriment planet does not work best with all of them.

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charlie
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posted October 30, 2013 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cap moon but I don't know what that means really. I have a Cancer stellium right opposite my moon and I was born smack on the minute of a full moon so I truly fluctuate between different full moon periods. Aries, Taurus and Scorpio influencing me the most. You could literally say that I float in and out with the moons and the tides.

On a more serious note although the above is serious, Pluto is strong in my charts and he colors me blind to my own signs.

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posted October 30, 2013 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 23:
Oh, these days it's all about opinion and your opinion and her opinion.

Well there was this dude that was around in the 1st/2nd century called Ptolemy. Guess what? He just happened to be an astrologer and he invented this table called Table of Essential Dignities. Here it is:
http://planetwaves.net/news/table-of-essential-dignities/

It was only used for about 1600 years. It's partly used today but I guess it's just crap today according to some of you.

Eta - your entitled to favourites as it suits you the best but objectively and with the total sum of humans, a detriment planet does not work best with all of them.


Not atall, but guess what, he also writ it, 2000 years ago, lol... i'm not saying its wrong but you can make your own mind up on the good/bad positions rather than following the rules/regulations.

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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PlutoFish
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posted October 30, 2013 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ptomely also changed to to suit his ways, leaving out Ophiuchus purposely. Creating a Male run world ...

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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SmilingHeart
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posted October 30, 2013 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a special place in my heart for Capricorn Moons. They are funny and sensitive - the amount of self-control might not be healthy but I understand why they do it.
Maybe in a better world they wouldn't have to be so self-contained, who knows.
There is a reason why people are the way they are. I think it's important that Capricorn Moons exist. They bring something to this world that is structured and objective without being unfeeling. A nice trait in my opinion.

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posted October 30, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Cappy moon as I have Aries moon and Cap stellium. They are very reliable and calm.

Tbh, if you are strong Cappy/saturn, you just worry all the time. I think it's probably for the better if you learn meditation or answer daily reflective questions so that you don't beat yourself up all the time. This tip has been helping me and my Cap moon mother feel better. I hope you it help you relax a little bit more

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posted October 30, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freesia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:

I Would rather be in control of my emotions and be self-disciplined, using other parts of my chart to demonstrate compassionate & love.


How do you demonstrate love if you do hide your emotions?

And
how do you like others the best way to show their love to you?

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PlutoFish
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posted October 30, 2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Freesia:
How do you demonstrate love if you do hide your emotions?

And
how do you like others the best way to show their love to you?


You don't need to be messy with emotions to show love..

and care, responsibility, understanding & compassion for me i would say

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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PlutoFish
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posted October 30, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I show love more through my 12th House n.node - Universal love than the nurturing of the Moon which is more my center of self-control, though it is still conjunct Neptune ..

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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JoJo
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posted October 30, 2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I love this placement i wouldn't swap it for any other sign. (I don't know why it's said to be detriment)But it does have some downfalls. I've been feeling good all day, working on my self-control and keeping everything organized etc - Then it's like i'll just start going in on my self, feeling useless and unpractical, not achieving anything tangible atall and the frustration is unparamount. Does anyone else with a Capricorn Moon feel this? I'll be working through the day feeling on top of the world then just fall right back down to the bottom at night...

Totally. I fight my demons all the time. On the outside, I'm very "put together". On the inside I'm the opposite and often feel I have no value and am unworthy of love.

It's like I have this constant battle between my head (the side of me that is amazing) and my heart (the side that feels unworthy).

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posted October 30, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JoJo:
Totally. I fight my demons all the time. On the outside, I'm very "put together". On the inside I'm the opposite and often feel I have no value and am unworthy of love.

It's like I have this constant battle between my head (the side of me that is amazing) and my heart (the side that feels unworthy).


You think thats all from your Capricorn Moon?

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Sun in Ophiuchus (1st)
Moon in Capricorn (2nd)
Mercury in Sagittarius (1st)
Venus in Scorpio (11th)
Mars in Leo (9th)

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hannaramaa
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posted October 30, 2013 06:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it (what Jojo said) I've seen a lot of Capricorn moons feel this way. They all have "demons"

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MsPrism
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posted October 31, 2013 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Capricorn Moon person, I wrote a reply to one of the posts but then I realized that it was too emotional to express so I deleted it and wrote this message instead.

Anyway, I use my emotion to spur me to action, that's what my Cappy Moon is all about. 8) <--- Nerd smile

ETA: After the "fighting demons" post, yeah I'm about to have a hard Pluto/Moon aspect in synastry (I'm the Moon) and I'm already having friggin dreams of me being a neglected infant, crawling out into the cold weather and curling up alone under an overturned wooden boat, forgotten and accepting of that loneliness.

Friggin kill me now Pluto and just save me the trouble! *shakes fist*

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posted October 31, 2013 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeh i know with the demons -Being ruled by Saturn, but the feeling unworthy, you shouldn't feel unworthy, where is your Sun placed?
I feel the opposite of unworthy if anything, but then i have my Sun in the 1st..

Do you think your feelings of unworthyness would be from not working enough/holding up enough responsiblity?

& Where is your Saturn? My Capricorn Moons in the 2nd & Saturn in the 3rd

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posted October 31, 2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I love this placement i wouldn't swap it for any other sign. (I don't know why it's said to be detriment)But it does have some downfalls. I've been feeling good all day, working on my self-control and keeping everything organized etc - Then it's like i'll just start going in on my self, feeling useless and unpractical, not achieving anything tangible atall and the frustration is unparamount. Does anyone else with a Capricorn Moon feel this? I'll be working through the day feeling on top of the world then just fall right back down to the bottom at night...

No. Detrimental and fall positions are challenges unto themselves and as such...never cease to run.

Such a mock whiner you are.

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posted October 31, 2013 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A lot of people assume a Capricorn Moon isn't emotional .. we are deeply emotional, but we don't like to show it

Really? Because I don't feel like I'm so deeply emotional.. O_O

And I almost always show whatever I feel. My feelings are extra earthy though - not at all like water Moons.. so not 'deep' in that sense.

The most intense emotion I feel is that feeling when a project is due - and you're cramming - and you're not sure that it's good enough and then you scrap half of it and you re-write the damn thing and then you panic thinking you won't be able to hand it on time and..

Yeah ^ Honestly it does not get more intense than that. That ^ is more intense than sex for me lol


Hanna -

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It's selfish not to let someone see that

Well....... Some people get me and some don't. I trust my intuition to know the difference.
A lot of people with Scorpio placements get me. so I do open up to them and I let them see everything.
It is not just Scorpio-influence though. There are others that I feel I can connect with!

But.. I have a huge problem with people I see as immature. In my daily life I could never open up to most of the Taurus Mooners I've known. The exception is my closest friend who is a Pisces and has a lot of water in her chart, quite apart from the Taurus Moon.
Basically, I have issues with them. I honestly don't feel like they could ever in a million years understand me.. and generally I find them childish. I would feel like a 70 year old trying to explain his/her problems to a 5 yr old.
It just feels completely out of sync.

On LL neither you nor Aqua Guy come across as these immature Taurus Mooners I have encountered. But you guys also have the opposition to Pluto which might give your Moon a Scorpio vibe.

I find this whole thing odd.. because one would imagine I would easily get close to Taurus Moon, since it is a fellow earth Moon.. but there is something so flakey about the ones I've known (specially the men).. and they are just SO young at heart... and I'm so old at heart.

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posted October 31, 2013 09:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely understand what you mean about Taurus / Capricorn moon connection. For me personally it's like the loyalty is there but that's all that trine provides. Understanding, sympathy, a connection? No. It's really ironic you mention the maturity difference today, because last night I was pondering and realized my ex-Capricorn moon friend always made me feel like I was ditzy, immature, etc. I thought it might've been the Capricorn clashing with my Aries / Gemini influence, but maybe it was my moon.

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posted October 31, 2013 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Tight aspects and conjunctions can really change the condition of a planet regardless of the sign it's in.

Agreed!

While it still has the characterisitcs of the sign... it's definitely modified by aspects.

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I like 'em Earth Moons.
Some of them are toooo simple though, like no emotional "intelligence" whatsoever, but they just seem so grounded and stable and mmmm! I totally need to find an Earth Moon buddy to chill with. Preferably an Earth Moon in a Fire house so that they're not too practical or overly-realistic, ha.


Note: I know, I know, they're not always that stable or grounded but that's the kinda vibe they give off to me, in most cases.


PS. Hi MsPrism! Long time no see!

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posted October 31, 2013 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the Cap Moons who think Taurean moons are childish- I think again, this is the action of a strong Moon close to its true nature that is disliked by someone who has a Moon in detriment and not understanding them.

Animals rely solely on instinct to survive. We humans have a reasoning component too to our mind. If we take an example of a dog, a good dog has been shown to have the average intelligence of a three year old; other animals have less intelligence. Intelligence is reasoning here. So, in short, what I'm trying to say is that animals are the equivalent to children, high instinct and that is was the Moon is. The Moon is not intelligent, it is not reasoning, it is what it is; that is, an animal with highly honed hunting skills, nurturing skills, flight/fright, attacking, emotions etc.

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posted November 01, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Doux!

Yeah, it has been. I hope you're doing well!

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posted November 01, 2013 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
As a Capricorn Moon person, I wrote a reply to one of the posts but then I realized that it was too emotional to express so I deleted it and wrote this message instead.

Anyway, I use my emotion to spur me to action, that's what my Cappy Moon is all about. 8) <--- Nerd smile

ETA: After the "fighting demons" post, yeah I'm about to have a hard Pluto/Moon aspect in synastry (I'm the Moon) and I'm already having friggin dreams of me being a neglected infant, crawling out into the cold weather and curling up alone under an overturned wooden boat, forgotten and accepting of that loneliness.

Friggin kill me now Pluto and just save me the trouble! *shakes fist*


Hey Msprism

How are you doing?

On topic, the moon is in domicile in cancer and is in detriment in Capricorn. Therefore highlighting the differences in emotional temperaments and responses. Cancer moons are sensitive, expressive and very intuitive whereas cappy moons are emotionally distant and they simply abhors emotional outburst because they do not know how to handle them. Not knowing HOW to handle emotions is a flaw, being too sensitive and emotionally susceptible all the time is a flaw too. Nevertheless, cappy moons are as emotional and sensitive and hopelessly wants to be taken care of just like the cancer moon. So in the ways these moons differ, one secretly wants what the other can easily offer. The stress is put on the word 'easy', that is why the moon is most happy when in domicile.

I don't understand the stereotype attached to cancer moons being clingy. That's so not true. Manipulative, yes. Clingy? NO.

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posted November 01, 2013 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

But I'm not saying they are immature to belittle them.
What I mean is.. they have not had their heart truly broken, they have not had someone close to them die, they have not been in a situation where they couldn't have their cake and eat it to - so they still believe that they can always get what they want.

Because of their lack of experience - If I try to explain my problems to them it just feels strange.
How do you explain to someone the pain of losing what you love most in life.. or the loneliness of that - when they have never experienced anything like that - and when the closest thing they have to that is " my ex of two weeks left me" lol... I mean there is just a big discrepancy between the sorts of problems I have faced in life and the sorts of problems the Taurus Moon people I mentioned (mostly guys.. because I guess gender plays a role as well) - have experienced.

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