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AnastasiyaEnchanted
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posted November 01, 2013 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AnastasiyaEnchanted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always hear everyone saying how great it is when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon, in your experience what makes it so great? I always thought that moom-moon or venus-moon contacts were better. So what happens when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon or vice versa?

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posted November 01, 2013 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:
I always hear everyone saying how great it is when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon, in your experience what makes it so great? I always thought that moom-moon or venus-moon contacts were better. So what happens when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon or vice versa?

All of these 3 aspects are really good to have in synastry, but I think that venus contacts with sun or moon is some of the best, since venus is the relationship planet...
But what happens when sun-moon is in contact? Well I think it just creates some basic understanding that is unmistakable, and it's really flattering...
It happens everytime I meet someone with virgo moon or pisces sun (I'm virgo sun and pisces moon) who forms an aspect to my planets. Even before I know when they are born I can sense some special connection..

The opposition is maybe the strongest really (when talking about first meetings) because oppositions attract...

But they are all very good aspects to have in synastry because they create love, understanding and some general warmth to the relationship!

I have all of them with the guy I'm seeing atm, it's really damn nice!

We have sun-opposition moon double whammy, sun conjunction venus and moon opposition venus!

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posted November 01, 2013 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post, next to neptune.
And congrats for the great synastry with your SO.

I personally think that there's something quite special about Sun/Moon aspects in synastry, yes.

It's hard to explain, but there's something very "basic", kind of... "natural" in such contacts - makes you feel like you belong with that person, that you can be yourself - a sort of natural bond.

It's not usually sexual or romantic per se, but more like a "coming home" type of feeling.

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posted November 01, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Good post, next to neptune.
And congrats for the great synastry with your SO.

I personally think that there's something quite special about Sun/Moon aspects in synastry, yes.

It's hard to explain, but there's something very "basic", kind of... "natural" in such contacts - makes you feel like you belong with that person, that you can be yourself - a sort of natural bond.

It's not usually sexual or romantic per se, but more like a "coming home" type of feeling.


Yes, I agree with that. Even in the case where I am the Sun.

However I have 2 friends in my life (though I do not have contact to one of them anymore) and both have their Sun tightly conjunct my Moon.
I feel they get me on a level that noone else really understands, or I am getting them maybe. But it is not intellectual, it is some sort of instinctual "knowing" and accepting.

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posted November 01, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll agree. Positive Sun-Moon aspects will create harmony between the basic personalities. There'll be comfort and understanding between the two.

This is important for intimate relationships, but without aspects that indicate romantic/sexual themes, it may just indicate a deep friendship.

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posted November 01, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri & mcm

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Liliya
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posted November 01, 2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like it, when I'm the Moon. I had it both ways before, but when my partner was Moon, it just wasn't the same.

Moon for a female, Sun for male is perfect, otherwise - eventual clash of personalities, the same as if woman's Mars conjuncts man's Venus.

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posted November 01, 2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcmlxix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
I like it, when I'm the Moon. I had it both ways before, but when my partner was Moon, it just wasn't the same.

Moon for a female, Sun for male is perfect, otherwise - eventual clash of personalities, the same as if woman's Mars conjuncts man's Venus.


That's an important consideration, but it's highly individual. Some men prefer lunar women, others don't mind, or prefer that they're solar. Some women prefer solar men. others don't mind, or prefer that they're lunar.

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posted November 01, 2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually prefer to be the Sun in the equation.

Interestingly even though there is this deep friendship with the girls putting their Sun on my Moon, I don´t seem to be very attracted to male Suns conjunct my Moon.

maybe in my case the 7th house ruler (Mercury; conjunct my Sun exact) wins out over the 8th house ruler(Moon) in terms of attraction.

In the specific case of a guy whose Moon is conjunct my Sun (and Mercury), maybe it is of importance that his Sun and MC are also conjunct?

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posted November 01, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I must be odd because the only "relationship" I have with sun conjunct moon is with my father (the conjunction is exact, same degree) and we hated each other for many years. It is only now that he is old and frail that I feel love and compassion for him, but we are still worlds apart in terms of understanding what makes each other tick.

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posted November 01, 2013 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes,its obvious that sun-moon conjucntion in synastry is very attractive.i am in a relationship for over 10 years with a male having his natal moon conjunct my natal sun.what i dont get is the fact that some people see conjunctions in general as an uneasy aspect,i dont...sun and moon conjunct in synastry is like a constant new moon feeling between two lovers

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posted November 01, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I actually prefer to be the Sun in the equation.


Yeah? Well, I'm a Leo Sun/Mars, Virgo Venus and 0 degree Sag Moon. For whatever reason, I really dislike being in charge or having an upper-hand. So much for Leoness in me

So for me, I prefer projecting female(Moon) energy, rather than male(Sun) in synastry.

But yeah, it really depends on people, and their personalities.

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posted November 01, 2013 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Yeah? Well, I'm a Leo Sun/Mars, Virgo Venus and 0 degree Sag Moon. For whatever reason, I really dislike being in charge or having an upper-hand. So much for Leoness in me

So for me, I prefer projecting female(Moon) energy, rather than male(Sun) in synastry.

But yeah, it really depends on people, and their personalities.


I don`t see it as having the "upper hand". When I first met him there was this feeling of I could recognize myself in his eyes. That sort of "You remind me of who I really am"-vibe.
Since my Sun-MErcury-conjunction is rather isolated in my chart, it was a new experience, but one I have come to like by now, though it also makes me sometimes a little uncomfortable, as I Feel like I have a constant "spotlight" on me. Sort of: Where I am, there is the light.
I am not even sure he does that on purpose, but he gives me a feeling like he really sees me. It`s intriguing.

But that does not mean I have the upper hand at all. It just means there comes a great sense of identity with it for me.

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posted November 01, 2013 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lucie:
..sun and moon conjunct in synastry is like a constant new moon feeling between two lovers

What a beautiful and fitting image!

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posted November 01, 2013 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
it also makes me sometimes a little uncomfortable, as I Feel like I have a constant "spotlight" on me. Sort of: Where I am, there is the light.
I am not even sure he does that on purpose, but he gives me a feeling like he really sees me. It`s intriguing.

My longest crush makes me feel exactly like this description. And I agree, I don't think he does it on purpose, it's just that my Sun must feel really nice on his Moon. We also have a Moon-Moon trine, so even when we disagree, we respect each other's opinion and let it go.

This guy is like, one of the few people that can look at me and detect when I'm down, even when I'm putting on my best happy face. I don't think this contact is sexual or even romantic... it gives just a comforting, very loving feel to any type of relationship.

On a sidenote, I think my attraction comes from his Pluto and Mars squaring my 8H Venus.

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posted November 01, 2013 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun and moon share the same degree so I always seem to be uhm about me... lol

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posted November 01, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I don`t see it as having the "upper hand". When I first met him there was this feeling of I could recognize myself in his eyes. That sort of "You remind me of who I really am"-vibe.
Since my Sun-MErcury-conjunction is rather isolated in my chart, it was a new experience, but one I have come to like by now, though it also makes me sometimes a little uncomfortable, as I Feel like I have a constant "spotlight" on me. Sort of: Where I am, there is the light.
I am not even sure he does that on purpose, but he gives me a feeling like he really sees me. It`s intriguing.

But that does not mean I have the upper hand at all. It just means there comes a great sense of identity with it for me.


That's so nice. I love reading your comments! I'm happy it works better for you, than it does for me.

I'm very new to astrology, and I don't have your expertise. Since getting interest in it, I evaluated all my relationships, and those where I had Mood/Sun especially, since everyone has so much fuss about it.

To be honest, my best rs doesn't have Sun/Moon conj, we have a wide trine and my Sun semi-sextiles his Moon. We really understand each other, and "read" each others minds.

It never was like this with any of the Sun/Moon relationships before, going either way, especially, when I was Sun. Then again, we are all different, and experience things differently.

A dunno, maybe it's because my Moon is widely conjunct his Venus as well? But whatever it is, it's the first time I'm in love in 30 years, and even though I'm freaked out by this feeling, I'm secretely loving it haha

(Retro Venus in 12th house squaring almost everything, including Uranus)

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posted November 01, 2013 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Ok, I must be odd because the only "relationship" I have with sun conjunct moon is with my father (the conjunction is exact, same degree) and we hated each other for many years. It is only now that he is old and frail that I feel love and compassion for him, but we are still worlds apart in terms of understanding what makes each other tick.

Which is the Sun, and how are they aspected in each chart?

I would venture to say that aspects are important.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:
I always hear everyone saying how great it is when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon, in your experience what makes it so great? I always thought that moom-moon or venus-moon contacts were better. So what happens when a mans sun conjuncts a womans moon or vice versa?


Personally, my moon is in a water sign so it's at least mildly dignified so it is very important to date someone whose sun sign is in agreement. I would say it is more important than sun sign compatibility in my case.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAMcA10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on my limited experience I'd say the Sun person is going to regard the Moon person as being not quite good enough for them at first and the Moon person is going to know it.

I (a male) find that when I take an interest in a woman born in mid September (near my moon at 14 Virgo), she finds it very easy to give short shrift to my advances if she has any inclination to do so.

When I've managed to get together with them, occasionally they have been completely blown away and almost apologetic about not realizing it earlier.

I could imagine that for some men being the Moon person is a neat challenge and an intense aspect to play out, but I find the female being the Sun person and regarding me, the male Moon person as too unimportant to be worthy of their attention at first glance to be pretty unexciting.

When I am the Sun person, sometimes the woman seems ... attractive but not quite attractive enough at first. Whenever I've pursued things I've never regretted it.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is so much lunar activity in my synastry with my boyfriend that it's almost impossible to distinguish what it responsible for the comfortable feelings. We have a tight sextile with moon-Venus, and a tight sextile with sun-moon. We also have a quintile (whatever that means) of his moon to my sun. We also have a 0 degree trine with moon-Mars. We have a loose square (about 3.4 degrees) with moon-moon, and boy, does that one stand out! lol.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
I like it, when I'm the Moon. I had it both ways before, but when my partner was Moon, it just wasn't the same.

Moon for a female, Sun for male is perfect, otherwise - eventual clash of personalities, the same as if woman's Mars conjuncts man's Venus.



I see the wisdom in your statement, Lilya. I think I agree with this.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
That's so nice. I love reading your comments! I'm happy it works better for you, than it does for me.

I'm very new to astrology, and I don't have your expertise. Since getting interest in it, I evaluated all my relationships, and those where I had Mood/Sun especially, since everyone has so much fuss about it.

To be honest, my best rs doesn't have Sun/Moon conj, we have a wide trine and my Sun semi-sextiles his Moon. We really understand each other, and "read" each others minds.

It never was like this with any of the Sun/Moon relationships before, going either way, especially, when I was Sun. Then again, we are all different, and experience things differently.

A dunno, maybe it's because my Moon is widely conjunct his Venus as well? But whatever it is, it's the first time I'm in love in 30 years, and even though I'm freaked out by this feeling, I'm secretely loving it haha

(Retro Venus in 12th house squaring almost everything, including Uranus)



I am pretty certain there will be something at play explaining the feeling. It does not always have to be Sun-Moon-conjunction, no.
However I hypothize that for this feeling of core resonance and understanding to happen some interplay of solar and lunar will be there; but it does noth ave to be Sun and Moon in conjunction. Could be the Sun/Moon-mp, nodal axis, even the Black Moon, IC, and so on.

Also as you pointed out the individual charts have to be looked at. Definitely.
The conjunction is not existing in empty space, thre will other aspects being formed to this, and depnding on the natal chart that could be less exciting.

Let`s say someone has much fire placements, challenging Uranus aspects in their charts. Now they meet someone with whom they will share a Sun-Moon-conjunction, but this person also puts their Saturn in square to this - and their chart clearly tells us they do not want anything to do with the Saturnian vibe. I suppose it would feel too draining and too much work to them, and not as attractive.


Also, mutual understanding can come from other places, too.
Moon-Mercury for once, or Mercury-Mercury, even Mercury-Neptune, though this one can get REALLY tricky as it is too nonverbal and might frustrate Mercury.
Venus-Moon for that wordless emotional understanding, communication through touch and hug for example.

The Sun-Moon is a special aspect - genrally speaking at least-, yes; but it is only one variation of this theme.


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posted November 01, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Truly agree! I had Sun-Moon relationship, but our Satuns squared our Mercuries, so it was difficult to talk each other.

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posted November 01, 2013 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KAMcA10:
Based on my limited experience I'd say the Sun person is going to regard the Moon person as being not quite good enough for them at first and the Moon person is going to know it.

I (a male) find that when I take an interest in a woman born in mid September (near my moon at 14 Virgo), she finds it very easy to give short shrift to my advances if she has any inclination to do so.

When I've managed to get together with them, occasionally they have been completely blown away and almost apologetic about not realizing it earlier.

I could imagine that for some men being the Moon person is a neat challenge and an intense aspect to play out, but I find the female being the Sun person and regarding me, the male Moon person as too unimportant to be worthy of their attention at first glance to be pretty unexciting.

When I am the Sun person, sometimes the woman seems ... attractive but not quite attractive enough at first. Whenever I've pursued things I've never regretted it.



That is shockingly true.
I wasn´t crushing so hard at first. Sure I was intrigued, but it was more that it puzzled me that I seemed to gain his attention so effortlessly.
It was not that I thought he was "beneath" me, not at all; but I didn`t think of him as my "type" and I did not think of myself as his type very certainly not.
But wherever I was, he seemed tosee me, seemed to know where I was, when I entered a room. Maybe just my imagination, but I felt very very visible, and it made me also feel very vulnerable and too much on display.
But I got curious, why he would see me all the time. Why would he even look at me? (my selfconfidence is not the strongest, I gues. lol). Why didn`t my invisibility-cloak (Neptune on ASC) work with him?

So I was intrigued, curious, trying to figure that one out, and over the course, I got more and more fascinated, captivated, until one day I couldn`t deny it anylonger, not even to myself, that I was totally hooked, and that the attention he gave me had started to mean so much to me, that I had started to almost need, but at least crave the warmth in his smile.

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