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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 02, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It does for me too. I'm the kind of person who works to make it calm again. I'm a nurturing person and it bothers me when people aren't happy. I will do whatever I have to do to make the problem not a problem anymore. I love mellowness too if only it were like that everywhere

Lots of people dislike mellowness so it's easier to just put the Ipod ear buds in the ears and listen to that instead, sometimes.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 02, 2013 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd be a prime example with some added dancing lol because I just can't contain myself

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 02, 2013 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
If you say so.lol

It's in astrology books too, Aquaguy

If Virgo is the sign of worry what is Pisces? Pisces is supposed to be the opposite of Virgo so it can't be the sign of worry like Virgo, right? So, since the twelfth house goes with Pisces, and the sixth with Virgo, the twelfth would be about Piscean things, like not worrying. So Team Twelfth House should practice that calm, worry free state of mind

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 02, 2013 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gooooo Team! *shakes poms poms and booty*

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orocairion
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posted November 03, 2013 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Not the people I'm around lol. I don't hate it I just don't care to be around people like that.

You just haven't found out what they are insecure about

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aquaguy91
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posted November 03, 2013 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It's in astrology books too, Aquaguy

If Virgo is the sign of worry what is Pisces? Pisces is supposed to be the opposite of Virgo so it can't be the sign of worry like Virgo, right? So, since the twelfth house goes with Pisces, and the sixth with Virgo, the twelfth would be about Piscean things, like not worrying. So Team Twelfth House should practice that calm, worry free state of mind



Opposite signs aren't always completely different from one another in every way.12thhousers can also get very stressed out by day to day life. Virgos/6th housers do to but for different reasons. A 6th house person is stressed about work because they want to make sure they get the big promotion. A 12th houser gets stressed out about work because they hate it. They hate dealing with office politics and cut throat people and just want to escape from it all.If you think 12th house people are worry free how do you explain their reputation for drinking and doing drugs? Nobody self medicates unless they are sad or stressed.

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posted November 03, 2013 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insecurity is Sun-Mars domain, or rather the dark side of it - if you don't know who you are and what you want,you are bound to be insecure at some point,if not all the time.

IC and Moon - the basic needs, the things you can't do without, you don't tick properly if you are denied whatever sits in IC/Moon symbolism.

Insecurity can be a product of too much mental deliberation, too, but it's not a real insecurity : You're essentially spoiled by great number of possibilities or choices.

In my experience, I have never met a Sun/Moon conj/oppo/sext/trine that was insecure = the combination of identity and early conditioning.

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posted November 03, 2013 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruitTreeFresh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Our bodies are withholding our spiritual self. The 12th House feels so scary because it's loss of ego, our physical representation in this life. Don't be insecure if I run up with a knife to kill you. I'm only trying to set you free...

>.>


Agree! Especially Sun in 12th, loses your sense of self.

And to be sandwiched between Libra and Scorpio.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 03, 2013 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Insecurity is Sun-Mars domain, or rather the dark side of it - if you don't know who you are and what you want,you are bound to be insecure at some point,if not all the time.

IC and Moon - the basic needs, the things you can't do without, you don't tick properly if you are denied whatever sits in IC/Moon symbolism.

Insecurity can be a product of too much mental deliberation, too, but it's not a real insecurity : You're essentially spoiled by great number of possibilities or choices.

In my experience, I have never met a Sun/Moon conj/oppo/sext/trine that was insecure = the combination of identity and early conditioning.


I have sun conjunct my moon and I've never been insecure. I've been depressed and that depression made me hate everything but I've never felt bad about myself. I have no reason to. Good point about it being too much mental deliberation I feel that's why a lot of people are insecure and so self conscious. It's all in their heads!! They look at all of these celebrities and other famous people and compare and compare and it's just ridiculous to me. Good points there friend

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posted November 03, 2013 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[b] It's in astrology books too, Aquaguy

If Virgo is the sign of worry what is Pisces? Pisces is supposed to be the opposite of Virgo so it can't be the sign of worry like Virgo, right? So, since the twelfth house goes with Pisces, and the sixth with Virgo, the twelfth would be about Piscean things, like not worrying. So Team Twelfth House should practice that calm, worry free state of mind



Opposite signs aren't always completely different from one another in every way.12thhousers can also get very stressed out by day to day life. Virgos/6th housers do to but for different reasons. A 6th house person is stressed about work because they want to make sure they get the big promotion. A 12th houser gets stressed out about work because they hate it. They hate dealing with office politics and cut throat people and just want to escape from it all.If you think 12th house people are worry free how do you explain their reputation for drinking and doing drugs? Nobody self medicates unless they are sad or stressed.

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Ideally, being in your twelfth house means not worrying, being immune to it. It's a twelfth house goal, to reach that state.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 03, 2013 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's my goal SSS and I have 4 planets in the 12th house. Makes loads of sense to me.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 03, 2013 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine too, Barbie!

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 03, 2013 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don't understand the need or want to just be so negative about everything and seeing negative outlooks in everything. Life is too short!

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posted November 03, 2013 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supermeggs12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Libra/virgo - i have libra asc virgo moon i'm pretty depressed with how i look because i'm not perfect.


Omg! I have Libra ascendant and Virgo moon too!

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted November 03, 2013 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I just don't understand the need or want to just be so negative about everything and seeing negative outlooks in everything. Life is too short!

You can be a ray of light in other's lives, Barbie! This is what others need to hear. Do you have an aspect between Mercury and Jupiter?

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posted November 03, 2013 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You can be a ray of light in other's lives, Barbie! This is what others need to hear. Do you have an aspect between Mercury and Jupiter?

Nothing but mercury conjuncts my sun, moon and ascendant. Jupiter conjuncts my sun and moon as well

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posted November 03, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Supermeggs12:
Omg! I have Libra ascendant and Virgo moon too!


How do you like it? Do you feel it's a good or bad thing or right in the middle?

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posted November 03, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supermeggs12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
How do you like it? Do you feel it's a good or bad thing or right in the middle?

I think it's bad. Neptunian Sag is right when she says it can make you insecure. It's just really hard to have a Libra ascendant, I never pick sides and I can be vain sometimes. Plus my Virgo Moon, makes me overly critical and unable to cope with my flaws.

But on the bright side, I have a Scorpio Sun and Sagittarius Mercury to balance it out.

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posted November 03, 2013 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Supermeggs12:
I think it's bad. Neptunian Sag is right when she says it can make you insecure. It's just really hard to have a Libra ascendant, I never pick sides and I can be vain sometimes. Plus my Virgo Moon, makes me overly critical and unable to cope with my flaws.

But on the bright side, I have a Scorpio Sun and Sagittarius Mercury to balance it out.


Try having sun,moon,mercury and ascendant all the same sign. On top of some pretty hard water aspects. I feel like one big ball of contradiction lol. But I still love it wouldn't have it any other way. It makes me who I am

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posted November 03, 2013 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquaguy, I found this in Kero's link and checked it out since I have sun trine Saturn. I remember you stating you have sun conjunct Saturn. I found some of these resonated with me and if you haven't read this already, you might find it interesting:
http://astrofix.net/2011/04/07/sunsaturnaspects/#.Uncnm2-UQRI

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posted November 04, 2013 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supermeggs12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Try having sun,moon,mercury and ascendant all the same sign. On top of some pretty hard water aspects. I feel like one big ball of contradiction lol. But I still love it wouldn't have it any other way. It makes me who I am

So you are a quadruple Libra, that's pretty cool . But yeah, Venus energy can actually be pretty negative sometimes.
Well, at least you don't have Moon square Pluto. That's the most brutal moon aspect of them all. IMO. It gives you lots of intense emotions that you can't understand, plus I never got along with my mom.

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posted November 04, 2013 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
^^I'm not denying that I just don't allow myself to get that way. It only causes more negative energy that I don't need. I'm a very optimistic person if you can't tell

So... are you insecure about being insecure?

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

IC and Moon - the basic needs, the things you can't do without, you don't tick properly if you are denied whatever sits in IC/Moon symbolism.


Not sure what you mean by IC/Moon symbolism, but my Venus Pluto and IC all conjunct each other, along with Eros. From what you say, that sounds like it could be problematic, if those needs aren't met?


Insecurity can be the tiniest little things, have you ever brushed or tucked your hair back whilst out?
Have you ever brushed some dust or dirt off some clothing while out?
Some of these tiny things are bits of teeny tiny insecurity. That you look better with that strand of hair tucked back, that you look more presentable with that bit of dust off your shoulder.
These things can even be unconscious that we don't even notice we do them.
Have you ever touched your face, or held your own hands lightly together?
These can be signs of self re-assurance. These gestures typically help us feel more... 'secure' but that isn't the total description, they help alleviate nervousness and tension.
That is why it usually feels so good to hold someone else's hand. It helps you feel connected, not so alone, and that someone is there for you.

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Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams.

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posted November 04, 2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Negativity had nothing to do with insecurity. There are some very nasty negative people who are extremely sure of them selves and vice versa.

I've also come across my share of secure, happy and optimistic people who are exceeding judgmental, in a nice happy and helpful way, of course. They just want the best for you, of course. Passive aggressive I think it's called. And that is very negative.

I'm an exceedingly happy and optimistic person. You should see how much Sag I have in my chart.

That does not mean I don't have insecurities. I have plenty of them. And they don't make me negative. And you wouldn't know my insecurities unless I told you (or showed you my chart! LOL)

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posted November 04, 2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Negativity had nothing to do with insecurity. There are some very nasty negative people who are extremely sure of them selves and vice versa.

I've also come across my share of secure, happy and optimistic people who are exceeding judgmental, in a nice happy and helpful way, of course. They just want the best for you, of course. Passive aggressive I think it's called. And that is very negative.

I'm an exceedingly happy and optimistic person. You should see how much Sag I have in my chart.

That does not mean I don't have insecurities. I have plenty of them. And they don't make me negative. And you wouldn't know my insecurities unless I told you (or showed you my chart! LOL)


I never once said it did.....

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Barbiegirl19
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posted November 04, 2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SwiftFreeze Whaaaa are you talking about lol?

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