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Topic: Immune to astrology.
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 10:53 AM
  
I feel like I'm immune to the effects of a lot of the "negative" placements, either that's just made up ******** or I'm smart enough to avoid it.... maybe I'm just blessed.Anyways it's weird seeing fatalistic crap floating around in a western astrology forum... IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:00 AM
Maybe you're very optimistic, you can borrow my Saturn.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:10 AM
Hmm well in general my life isn't perfect but when I hear random specific crap that is associated with certain placements...
Most of them do not apply to me..IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:15 AM
Negative connotations don't really apply to me either...idk maybe we know how to just get the best out of our placements? Or how to enjoy them regardless?  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 03, 2013 11:19 AM
lol  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 03, 2013 11:20 AM
This is why I think astrology is valid, but not law. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted November 03, 2013 11:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hmm well in general my life isn't perfect but when I hear random specific crap that is associated with certain placements...
Most of them do not apply to me..
They don't really apply to me either. If people read same crap again and again, it increases the chances of them developing those crappy traits, that's what I think. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:26 AM
Fatalistic astrology is silly but psychological astrology is more valid imo. For example one can feel taken advantage of from one unique encounter which can scar your for life but this not does not mean they will be abused through out their entire life..
Besides you can avoid abusive relationships by simply leaving and learning to have better judgment. The same for the ever so popular placements associated with child abuse. MALEFIC ASPECTED BY SUN/MOON 4TH HOUSE = MOMMY DADDY ISSUES... LOL.. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: the atman
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Maybe you're very optimistic, you can borrow my Saturn.
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
The same for the ever so popular placements associated with child abuse. MALEFIC ASPECTED BY SUN/MOON 4TH HOUSE = MOMMY DADDY ISSUES... LOL..
same very negative connotations with mars pluto, i think. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5097
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 11:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I feel like I'm immune to the effects of a lot of the "negative" placements, either that's just made up ******** or I'm smart enough to avoid it.... maybe I'm just blessed.Anyways it's weird seeing fatalistic crap floating around in a western astrology forum...
It depends what you have going on in your natal chart. For instance, I have a negative aspect between moon and Neptune so I feel immune to Neptune which is supposed to oppose my sun again soon, right now it's retrograding. I hardly notice it. It doesn't affect me so much. I am no more out of touch with reality than usual.
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Ellynlvx
Knowflake Posts: 656
From: Mountain Gate
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 03, 2013 12:07 PM
Character Is Destiny.What you think is what you are. A chart is what you have created with the past. Things happen and your reactions determine your future. A Positive state of mind (and the Venusian Shield of Virtue) are the fulcrum. IP: Logged |
page one
Knowflake Posts: 134
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 01:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I feel like I'm immune to the effects of a lot of the "negative" placements, either that's just made up ******** or I'm smart enough to avoid it.... maybe I'm just blessed.Anyways it's weird seeing fatalistic crap floating around in a western astrology forum...
That must be all your Jupiter. If anything, I think fatalist interps are more frowned upon around here. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 02:42 PM
I don't believe a placement or aspect can cause a specific problem which most of the time is interpreted in the most vague possible way..
If people keep making these type of interpretations astrology will always a hit and miss.Moon/saturn could indicate emotional coldness but moon square saturn does not always indicate harsh childhood and relationship with the mother. IP: Logged |
Nine
Moderator Posts: 1559
From: The Cusp of Love
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 03, 2013 04:38 PM
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I don't believe a placement or aspect can cause a specific problem which most of the time is interpreted in the most vague possible way..
If people keep making these type of interpretations astrology will always a hit and miss.
Astrology was deliberately made vague/hit-or-miss, it's a powerful tool, and you may gain full control of your destiny - or try to control others. Lies, half truths, and deception seem the MO of the PTB. Look at any dominant event in recent history and notice how it's almost forbidden to question the official story even when it clashes with logic; WW2, 911, Alqaeda/Taliban, etc... persist and you get stuck with all sorts of nasty labels. You're not immune to astrology, you just don't understand it fully. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3169
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 03, 2013 06:16 PM
I see astrology as energy that manifests in certain ways depending on both will and environment and even chance. For example, when I was 5 I got too hungry not to eat yet too scared to wake the hungover 'rents. So I put a chair next to the cereal cabinet, then got a spatula to open the door still out of reach (and counter too thin to step on) and then a wooden spoon so I could use both utensils to pry out a box of Cheerios. The rest was easy and as I ate my breakfast a feeling of accomplishment surged through me and I knew that no matter how unpredictable and scary the world of adults might be that I could at least take care of myself. That set out a chain of events that culminated in my being transformed as Scorpio energy demands and so the Scorpio elements on my chart were positive...and that, mixed with Sag optimism, helped me with my 6H Cappie Lilith that would make me depressed and obsessed with death (though I did go through that phase, I think the Wiccans helped me through that one, though the Sag humor also helped which astrologers recommend developing humor to counter the influence of that placement). But what if at age 5 I'd fallen off the chair? Likely I'd have cried (and possibly injured myself) which would get the angry 'rents after me. I might be too scared to ever do it again and I'd feel helpless in a world of capricious adults. I'd have been too scared to transform fearing failure and making it even worse and likely I'd be self-hating Gray Lizard today still a wounded child in an adult body and treating others the way my Gray Lizard Scorpio mom did. I'd still have the same energy, but it would've gone bad instead of good. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7669
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Negative connotations don't really apply to me either...idk maybe we know how to just get the best out of our placements? Or how to enjoy them regardless?
I guess its all a matter of perspective IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 388
From: Mercury
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 03, 2013 06:49 PM
Well my mercury is so badly afflicted that I shouldn't even be able to talk a normal language:P
But in my everyday life I have no problems, rather the opposite…and I've been selling the newspaper through phone for a year before, and I did fine !  - I did that only to prove to myself that it was possible Libra mercury(Retrograde) square saturn, jupiter and neptune IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5097
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 06:53 PM
You mean nothing bad ever happens in your lives? I don't believe that. Everybody has something. Nobody's life is perfect. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: the atman
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:07 PM
100% free will, just with a little bit of fate from the godspixie jane's childhood sounds just like mine except i was stealing fags and booze miniatures for my red handbag at 5, LOL IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5097
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:21 PM
Astrology can help you figure things out. I don't look to transits and synastry as much as I do natal charts. I can see my life in my natal chart, definitely and it has helped me avoid pitfalls, just reading descriptions of different aspects to natal planets from others. I think it's a good tool to figure out how to deal with problems and what to do to avoid danger.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:22 PM
Y'all missing the point.
Well have fun hating your afflicted charts with your "afflicted" lives. 
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StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5097
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Y'all missing the point.
Well have fun hating your afflicted charts with your "afflicted" lives.
Kero, all lives are afflicted. Astrology just helps you understand the nature of problems and how to improve them. That's what it's always meant for me. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:31 PM
No that's blaming astrology for your own issues.
100 percent free will.I've seen people blame their sucky relationships on their terribly afflicted moon and venus... That's such bs, maybe you're doing something wrong and should do some introspection to improve your relationships 
I've known people with really badly afflicted venus and moon that make pretty good lovers. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5097
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
No that's blaming astrology for your own issues.
100 percent free will.I've seen people blame their sucky relationships on their terribly afflicted moon and venus... That's such bs, maybe you're doing something wrong and should do some introspection to improve your relationships
Yesssss astrology helps you figure out what you are doing wrong and how to change it or work on changing it. Change is not always easy. Of course something is wrong. Sometimes, it's the other person who is doing something wrong, you have to figure out how to deal with it. Sometimes, people get stuck in negative energy patterns, they wonder why the same situation crops up again and again. Astrology helps identify it. It's a tool some people like to use. Some people prefer other methods. It's just one possible way to figure something out.
And sometimes people just need something to blame and astrology works in that respect too, lol. We are not limited in our options.
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6720
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 03, 2013 07:48 PM
I've observed my own afflictions in my chart and I'm beginning to treat aspects generally.I like how astrofix generalizes all aspects, combining traits of both planets. For example. http://astrofix.net/2010/10/14/marsuranus-aspects/#.UnbuvZQfb4A IP: Logged |
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