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Rosalind
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posted November 12, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus in aspect to Saturn and Uranus, no positive aspect to Mars, Venus in the tenth house.

I have all these aspects in my natal chart. I am definitely capable of falling in love. Where did you get this stupid theory?

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posted November 12, 2013 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonic Capricorn:
in the quest for true love its hard to fall in lust.

I have Venus and Mars conjunct in Virgo, in the 8th house. I wonder if I could fall in love through my senses. Especially touch.

We could call that "lust", but my understanding of lust is that it is a feeling of physical desire with little or no emotional component.

My attraction to other people usually has a distinct emotional component, and without it, there is little or no physical desire.

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posted November 12, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think "incapable" of falling in love but I know some people that never were madly in love about anyone, so they do exist and aren't teenagers or young people, one have almost 80 years old and told me she never felt passion for anyone but got married and had children. I also know someone (one of my best friends) that NEVER loved someone and she is a pisces sun and mercury (4th) and has aries venus conjunct mars in 5th house BUT has uranus conjunct asc.

So I guess this people maybe could have some aspects that hinder them fall in love easily like Venus/Saturn (high expectations, fear of rejection), Venus/Uranus (fear of loose freedom - me!),Uranus proeminent, a lot of Aquarius placements, or Virgo (very picky).

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posted November 12, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I have all these aspects in my natal chart. I am definitely capable of falling in love. Where did you get this stupid theory?

Just because you disagree does not make something stupid and this doesn't even qualify for "theory."

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posted November 12, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ agree

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posted November 12, 2013 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's difficult for me to fall in love nowadays.
A few years ago it was easier.

I think my Virgo + Saturn influence is very restrictive of any feelings that might develop, which is a shame, because I have much love to offer (Libra + Scorpio).

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posted December 29, 2018 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like this is me I've never been in love before. I have Venus square Saturn, Moon parellel Saturn, Venus square Uranus and Moon square Pluto. I have a difficult time in regards to connecting on an emotional level. I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.

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posted December 29, 2018 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I feel like this is me I've never been in love before. I have Venus square Saturn, Moon parellel Saturn, Venus square Uranus and Moon square Pluto. I have a difficult time in regards to connecting on an emotional level. I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your Moon Sign, which house is it placed it, what sign is on the cusp of your 5th House, and how close is the orb between your Venus-Saturn & Venus-Uranus aspects? Thank you

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posted December 29, 2018 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
If you don't mind me asking, what is your Moon Sign, which house is it placed it, what sign is on the cusp of your 5th House, and how close is the orb between your Venus-Saturn & Venus-Uranus aspects? Thank you I know my Aquarius Moon as something to do with it.



I think it's easier if I post the chart


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posted December 31, 2018 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
[b] If you don't mind me asking, what is your Moon Sign, which house is it placed it, what sign is on the cusp of your 5th House, and how close is the orb between your Venus-Saturn & Venus-Uranus aspects? Thank you I know my Aquarius Moon as something to do with it.



I think it's easier if I post the chart

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Wow, never in a million years would I expect a Pisces Venus native to say “I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.” Goes to show how a hard aspect can really modify a signs expression, even with a sign in it’s placement of exaltation.

I’m actually still learning how to read charts, it’s like Chinese to me. Do you have Saturn in the 5th House & Moon in the 7th?!

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posted December 31, 2018 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a lot of Aquarius placements can potentially manifest as being incapable of falling in love. One of the people I used to know has a lot of Aquarius placements and she doesn't seem like the type to ever want love. She seems more interested in friendships and just doing her own thing.

It's hard for me to comprehend how someone would not be capable of falling in love at all. There are people like this and I'll acknowledge that. I'm just personally too "in love" to get it.

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posted December 31, 2018 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Wow, never in a million years would I expect a Pisces Venus native to say “I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.” Goes to show how a hard aspect can really modify a signs expression, even with a sign in it’s placement of exaltation.

I’m actually still learning how to read charts, it’s like Chinese to me. Do you have Saturn in the 5th House & Moon in the 7th?!


I'm a Pisces Venus and I can understand what she is saying. I can relate to it, too. Pisces love is more all encompassing, it can be quite impersonal actually.

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posted December 31, 2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I feel like this is me I've never been in love before. I have Venus square Saturn, Moon parellel Saturn, Venus square Uranus and Moon square Pluto. I have a difficult time in regards to connecting on an emotional level. I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.

Thanks for sharing your chart, I could see how Venus square Saturn, Moom parallel Saturn in combo with Moon in Aquarius and Venus square Uranus may be guarded and lean more towards wanting to protect their autonomy bc is easier and less scary than opening up at a deeper level. Your instinct is to avoid and protect yourself but there is a part of you that longs for something deeper and to let go and fall in love all the way with venus in pisces in the 8th and Jupiter ruling your 5th in the 8th.

I would add that Jupiter ruling your 5th conjunct mercury in the 8th may also be making it difficult to fall in love. You may be letting your head get in the way of feeling your emotions.

I feel when and if you do fall in love, you will fall in love hard with venus in the 8th and moon in aquarius square pluto but I feel it will happen unexpectedly out of the blue and you wont see it coming hence you will not be guarded, it will surprise you.

Btw looking at your chart I could see you getting a degree in psychology and going after a master's degree, your 9th house ruler in the 10th shows you are willing to obtain a degree for career purposes and that stellium in the 8th looks great for that career path. Maybe bc Jupiter conjunct mercury is in Aries and jupiter rules your house of fun you feel you dont have the patience or discipline for a 6 year degree bc it falls in Aries but you can do it, you are getting in your own way, the chart shows the potential is there. If you find learning about psychology fun, you can do it but yes it will take time but if you really want that career path dont let that get in the way of your hopes and dreams.

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posted December 31, 2018 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
I'm a Pisces Venus and I can understand what she is saying. I can relate to it, too. Pisces love is more all encompassing, it can be quite impersonal actually.

Venus square Saturn and uranus would be more impersonal, venus in pisces trine Pluto and sextile neptune would not be at all.

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posted December 31, 2018 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thanks for sharing your chart, I could see how Venus square Saturn, Moom parallel Saturn in combo with Moon in Aquarius and Venus square Uranus may be guarded and lean more towards wanting to protect their autonomy bc is easier and less scary than opening up at a deeper level. Your instinct is to avoid and protect yourself but there is a part of you that longs for something deeper and to let go and fall in love all the way with venus in pisces in the 8th and Jupiter ruling your 5th in the 8th.

I would add that Jupiter ruling your 5th conjunct mercury in the 8th may also be making it difficult to fall in love. You may be letting your head get in the way of feeling your emotions.

I feel when and if you do fall in love, you will fall in love hard with venus in the 8th and moon in aquarius square pluto but I feel it will happen unexpectedly out of the blue and you wont see it coming hence you will not be guarded, it will surprise you.

Btw looking at your chart I could see you getting a degree in psychology and going after a master's degree, your 9th house ruler in the 10th shows you are willing to obtain a degree for career purposes and that stellium in the 8th looks great for that career path. Maybe bc Jupiter conjunct mercury is in Aries and jupiter rules your house of fun you feel you dont have the patience or discipline for a 6 year degree bc it falls in Aries but you can do it, you are getting in your own way, the chart shows the potential is there. If you find learning about psychology fun, you can do it but yes it will take time but if you really want that career path dont let that get in the way of your hopes and dreams.


Thanks for replying yeah I don't like people getting close to me. I do guard my feelings because I don't want to end up being hurt. And then I think about if I'll truly be happy being a relationship that's routine. That's what usually happens being in a committed relationship or married. In a relationship everything is always exciting in the beginning but then as time goes on it becomes a routine. At this point I'm not sure it matters whether or not I fall in love. I'm so use to being the way that I am now it just seems like it would be too much for me to try to change or too overwhelming. I was actually thinking about finishing up Dental Assisting school and then going into Dental Hygiene instead of Psychology. Do you think Dental Hygiene could be a good fit for me? Or should I just stick with Psychology?

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posted December 31, 2018 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Wow, never in a million years would I expect a Pisces Venus native to say “I have people who I love but I've never been in love with someone. I really don't get the concept of what it means to be in love.” Goes to show how a hard aspect can really modify a signs expression, even with a sign in it’s placement of exaltation.

I’m actually still learning how to read charts, it’s like Chinese to me. Do you have Saturn in the 5th House & Moon in the 7th?!


You were close Saturn in the 4th and Moon in the 6th.
Having Venus in aspect to Uranus makes a difference. I feel like I relate more to that aspect than the actual Venus in Pisces placement. I do have romantic tendencies but those only come out when I actually like someone. Or when I'm trying to win them over lol.

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posted December 31, 2018 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Venus square Saturn and uranus would be more impersonal, venus in pisces trine Pluto and sextile neptune would not be at all.


I have Venus in Pisces and I can definitely say that I usually feel impersonal with my love. And I have no square to Saturn or Uranus so it should have something to do with the sign Venus is in.

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posted December 31, 2018 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:

I have Venus in Pisces and I can definitely say that I usually feel impersonal with my love. And I have no square to Saturn or Uranus so it should have something to do with the sign Venus is in.

Not necessarily, it could be your moon placement or aspects, actually most likely is your moon. She has moon parallel Saturn and in aquarius, that would do it.

IME venus in pisces has the ability to make it feel to everyone that they have a deep connection with each person and that they really care about you. Now if venus is aspected a certain way or the moon is aspected a certain that can change.

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posted December 31, 2018 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
And then I think about if I'll truly be happy being a relationship that's routine. That's what usually happens being in a committed relationship or married. In a relationship everything is always exciting in the beginning but then as time goes on it becomes a routine.

I think believe it or not that is your Jupiter in Aries ruling your 5th in addition to Uranus ruling your 7th and squaring venus that makes you worry you will lose interest fast after the initial phase passes and you might but then it gets interesting again, uranus can be like that too. Don't over think it and go with the flow, when the right timing comes you might surprise yourself and end up in a relationship, maybe now is not the right time though, maybe you want to figure out your career stuff first. I could see how someone with venus square saturn and uranus may settle down out of the blue later in life, well you are in your 30s, it could happen in the next 5 years or in your 40s and I think you need someone who will go slow.

As for your career choice, you need to follow your heart. If going into the dental field feels right then girl you go for it! What I see in your chart is willingness to go to school to get the credentials needed to have a career you desire, whatever that may be. The teeth is ruled by SATURN and you have VENUS ruling your MC square Saturn so yes this is a good fit for you too. Follow your instincts, also mars in gemini maybe feels driven by helping people have a nice smile and you have mars in the 10th conjunct chiron so this would support as well a career in dental work I feel.

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posted December 31, 2018 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also falling in love and been in love is over-rated.

A relationship is more about companionship, been with someone you can live with, build a life with and grow old with. Been with someone who will stick by you no matter what and yes there are ups and downs and yes sometimes you will wonder if you still want to be with them, if the grass is greener on the other side ect but I feel is worth it to have a best friend to come home to always who won't run away when things get hard and whose company you enjoy. Its also realizing that life is about living and creating experiences and you have to take chances to live out those experiences.

With Uranus ruling your 7th conjunct your 5th square venus in the 8th and Jupiter in aries ruling your 5th conjunct mercury in the 8th I would think you would have a lot of intense love affairs that start out of the blue and end out of the blue, I agree your chart is not conducive to marriage but you can potentially enjoy a lot of intense flings if you let yourself but saturn may be getting in the way of you delving more deeply into a casual arrangement emotionally yet is almost like your chart is set up so you develop strong feelings for people you have brief encounters with and learn to let go of that to which you get attached to, your saturn does not feel safe with that kind of set up your chart is pushing you towards, casual but intense affairs, saturn is like "hell no, this is not a good investment." I feel maybe you attract these casual encounters but then fear the intensity and getting close so you put a guard up and then it never happens. I mean I feel you, of course you want to be cautious with your heart if something is casual, you have a bit of a tricky chart. Maybe you can let yourself get attached a little, push your comfort zone, allowing yourself to enjoy the affair at a deeper level but you still are been careful and not letting go all the way either.

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posted December 31, 2018 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Not necessarily, it could be your moon placement or aspects, actually most likely is your moon. She has moon parallel Saturn and in aquarius, that would do it.

IME venus in pisces has the ability to make it feel to everyone that they have a deep connection with each person and that they really care about you. Now if venus is aspected a certain way or the moon is aspected a certain that can change.


Mmh I always thought Venus in Pisces is a higher octave of love that would make the owner of this Venus experience transcended love if that makes sense? Of course if the Venus is not afflicted.
but yeah the moon definitely could be the culprit here. The moon square Pluto can be very cautious in love and very wary who we open up to. I also have Saturn in 4 so that adds to it

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posted December 31, 2018 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mmh I always thought Venus in Pisces is a higher octave of love that would make the owner of this Venus experience transcended love if that makes sense? Of course if the Venus is not afflicted.
but yeah the moon definitely could be the culprit here. The moon square Pluto can be very cautious in love and very wary who we open up to. I also have Saturn in 4 so that adds to it

You have Saturn in what? does it aspect your moon?

Yes Venus in Pisces is exalted hence my description that they have this ability to connect in a personal way with many people but what you are describing sounds like your venus or moon is afflicted, not exalted so if you have venus in pisces and moon conjunct saturn your venus will be restricted in its expression by your moon aspect saturn IMO.

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posted December 31, 2018 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have Saturn in what? does it aspect your moon?

Yes Venus in Pisces is exalted hence my description that they have this ability to connect in a personal way with many people but what you are describing sounds like your venus or moon is afflicted, not exalted so if you have venus in pisces and moon conjunct saturn your venus will be restricted in its expression by your moon aspect saturn IMO.



Saturn in 4. Doesn't it show in the other post? Moon is afflicted by Pluto (a square). Venus is not really afflicted. It's even conjunct my sun. I have no moon conjunct Saturn.

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posted December 31, 2018 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Also falling in love and been in love is over-rated.

A relationship is more about companionship, been with someone you can live with, build a life with and grow old with. Been with someone who will stick by you no matter what and yes there are ups and downs and yes sometimes you will wonder if you still want to be with them, if the grass is greener on the other side ect but I feel is worth it to have a best friend to come home to always who won't run away when things get hard and whose company you enjoy. Its also realizing that life is about living and creating experiences and you have to take chances to live out those experiences.

With Uranus ruling your 7th conjunct your 5th square venus in the 8th and Jupiter in aries ruling your 5th conjunct mercury in the 8th I would think you would have a lot of intense love affairs that start out of the blue and end out of the blue, I agree your chart is not conducive to marriage but you can potentially enjoy a lot of intense flings if you let yourself but saturn may be getting in the way of you delving more deeply into a casual arrangement emotionally yet is almost like your chart is set up so you develop strong feelings for people you have brief encounters with and learn to let go of that to which you get attached to, your saturn does not feel safe with that kind of set up your chart is pushing you towards, casual but intense affairs, saturn is like "hell no, this is not a good investment." I feel maybe you attract these casual encounters but then fear the intensity and getting close so you put a guard up and then it never happens. I mean I feel you, of course you want to be cautious with your heart if something is casual, you have a bit of a tricky chart. Maybe you can let yourself get attached a little, push your comfort zone, allowing yourself to enjoy the affair at a deeper level but you still are been careful and not letting go all the way either.


I agree I don't think I'm really marriage material. People are always telling me how I shouldn't be so defensive. How I should open up and be this way or that way. How I shouldn't be scared to connect with people etc. I'm really sick of it It's not like I can just change over night. Or that I actually want to change like why can't I just be myself? I've been having a fling with this Virgo for almost five years now. He lives in another state and we meet up every now and then. We have a lot of 4th house overlays so I feel a bond with him. I really trust him he's really the only person I've opened up to completely about how I really feel and about my issues. I don't think I'll ever be able to stop talking to him completely. The problem with flings is that I'll end up being alone in my old age. Unless I have children and that's another story lol. I wish the Gemini and I could have a long term fling. As he seems to understand my need for freedom in regards to relationships. And we have things in common and like some of the same things. But I know Gemini and Taurus aren't compatible. And with the harsh Mercury and Mars squares I don't think it'll work. Then he has all those water placements but out of all the guys who I'm friends with. I feel like I relate to him the most.

Also I finished all my classes for Massage Therapy and I'll be done in February. I like it but it's not something I want to do forever. Which is why I want a back up I started Dental Assisting classes before I switched to Massage. So I can go back and finish Dental Assisting and then go into Dental Hygiene. I like Psychology but I don't know how I'd feel about listening to people's problems everyday. It takes 6 years just to get a Masters Degree and that's going full time. Then I think 8 years for a Ph.D. It could end up taking me 10 years if I don't go full time. With Dental Hygiene it's 4 years full time. Including the pre-classes It might take me 5 though going part time.

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posted January 01, 2019 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:

Saturn in 4. Doesn't it show in the other post? Moon is afflicted by Pluto (a square). Venus is not really afflicted. It's even conjunct my sun. I have no moon conjunct Saturn.

Oh you mean Saturn in the 4th house. Sorry "saturn in 4" sounded weird. I was like what is she talking about....

Yes moon square pluto maybe can lead to some trust issues which perhaps leads to you keeping your distance from others altering the regular expression of venus in pisces.

I can't see your chart but there is probably other things that would explain this too. As someone with moon in pisces I am not impersonal, I very much connect deeply with many people, pisces is empathetic and merges with others easily so they don't come off as impersonal unless other things in their chart are making them guarded, distant or distrustful.

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