posted July 28, 2020 01:51 AM            

Astrology (and the cosmos) is a base-12 system. It doesn't need another zodiacal sign.

posted August 09, 2020 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:
The tropical zodiac is based upon the seasons, not the constellations. The constellations only served a purpose of marking 30 degree sections in the sky. A quick google search and you'd know this...

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Yes but the seasons were derived from the 12 closestconstellations, which have now changed, the suns & moons path is the seasons, and they go through the constellation of Ophiuchus. The seasons are connected to the constellations ..

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Both these assertions are incorrect and illustrate very well how the tropical zodiac is so poorly understood.

The tropical zodiac is a local zodiac produced by this solar system: Sun's relationship to Earth, which has its core metric in declination. When Sun is exactly parallel with Earth's celestial equator (0° declination) it is in alignment with the Aries/Libra axis. That means when Sun is moving northward to 0° it has left Pisces for Aries; when moving southward and hitting 0° declination it has left Virgo for Libra.

You should read my page on declinations for illustrations. If it isn't illustrated clearly enough, let me know. I'll amend it for clarity.

Bottom line: the universe operates on a base-12 system. So even if there are 13 Moon cycles, those are contained within the base-12 system as set by the energy generator, the Sun.

posted August 15, 2020 02:53 PM            

I have Mercury in Pisces in sidereal and I've always felt it. I even told a friend that somehow I know what others think and I feel and I pay attention to some things that can't even be proved.

I got really intrigued by the fact that my Venus is in Aries in Sidereal and Mars in Taurus and I thought for a few days about this and, in the end, it explains a lot.

In Tropical chart I have Venus in Taurus and Mars in Gemini and I thought that my romantical problems were because I had a square from Saturn to Venus, but how Venus acts in Aries is just like I act and the square from Saturn is a blessing. Mars in Taurus it is actually how I do things, slow and steady. I know for sure that if someone want to do it right, it doesn't have to hurry and just has to take all the steps until it's sure he/she didn't miss anything to go back to.

The main thing that you want to know when you do a birth chart is where were all the planets the moment you were born, and in the Tropical chart you don't find them there. This is not right at all. We shouldn't think that the number 12 fits perfectly. Maybe it is not about being perfect. Maybe there are more things to know.

posted August 15, 2020 06:12 PM            

Western or tropical astrology is not exclusively based off of the constellations. There are 12 signs that make up the 360 degrees of the zodiac circle. This dates back to the astrology practiced by the Sumerians and Egyptians.

posted August 17, 2020 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Is anyone else getting annoyed with the Tropical - Sidereal zodiacs, the sign of Ophiuchus etc.

Why isn't this a primary concern to the astrologers, the tropical needs to be updated or the sidereal needs to be classified as official, something needs to happen, at the minute i am completely stuck inbetween what is the right and wrong zodiac, if the sun signs are wrong, etc..

I seem to be the only one determined to get this changed, we can't be using a 2000 year old birth chart that left out major aspects of astrology .. this is sort of a rant, but is any one else feeling this way, or just using the natal chart as it is?

I'v just come to say i'm a Sagittarius (One of the primary source constellations) but i bear in mind that Ophiuchus is where the Sun was when i was born, so i guess an Ophiuchus filtered through the constellation of Sagittarius

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the follwoing article by deborah Houlding can help you to find some of your questions
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/zodiac.html