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Venus De Milo
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posted November 16, 2013 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can any people in the planet part of a Pluto equation chime in?

I mean, if you're born with the Moon in Libra for example, wouldn't you have the Moon conjunct Pluto in synastry with everybody born within a certain year or so?

So wouldn't it feel kind of blah or whatever for the planet person?

My ASC is at 7 Libra and I tend to attract men born in 1975/1976.

I guess to answer my own question, when the rest of the synastry comparison was STACKED then I really felt the obsession. If the rest of the synastry was "blah", then all I felt was blah.

I guess this is why we MUST use very tight orbs with the outer planets.

Any thoughts?

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nikki01
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posted November 16, 2013 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nikki01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i share this with someone new

hers to mine synastry
Pluto Opposition Moon 4.85
Moon Square Pluto 7.79

i am so into this woman.. I dont know what u mean by blah blah lol.. But i feel like maybe i text too much..? But i just feel as if i need to hear from her every hour.. Dont know if its the pluto moon contributing..But when i do start a conversation she goes with it.. But its always me who starts a chat.. Now i have decided to be silent for now and wait for her to initiate..
Shes an aqua im leo

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posted November 16, 2013 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venus De Milo:
Can any people in the planet part of a Pluto equation chime in?

I mean, if you're born with the Moon in Libra for example, wouldn't you have the Moon conjunct Pluto in synastry with everybody born within a certain year or so?

So wouldn't it feel kind of blah or whatever for the planet person?

My ASC is at 7 Libra and I tend to attract men born in 1975/1976.

I guess to answer my own question, when the rest of the synastry comparison was STACKED then I really felt the obsession. If the rest of the synastry was "blah", then all I felt was blah.

I guess this is why we MUST use very tight orbs with the outer planets.

Any thoughts?


I made the same observation. Aspects to the outers have to be really tight, or also involving a personal planet, or an angle, on the other person`s side.

If it is ONLY their Pluto, squaring my Venus, well, it is just background noise, however if they do resonate with Venus-Pluto natally or / and have a personal planet in the brew, it feels very different.

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Venus De Milo
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posted November 17, 2013 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nikki... lol... "blah blah blah" is just my sarcasm. In the synastry I am concerned with at the moment, I'm the Pluto person and I'm being totally obsessive about someone who has their Moon conjunct my Pluto and I'm like "you know what Venus? this is 90% on your end you nutjob, he definitely likes you A LOT but you are the crazy one and you need to rein it in since he has Moon conjunct Pluto with EVERYONE born in 78/79!!!"

However, I have to say, he has a Venus/Mars conjunction in Leo which sextiles my Pluto and then trines my Venus/Neptune conjunction in Sag (my natal Pluto perfectly sextles this natal conjunction).

His Moon is also in my 1st house.

So there are many other explanations for our explosive chemistry.

Anyhow, back to what you said, you're saying you're the planet person and you definitely feel it? The numbers after the aspects you listed, those are the orbs? Yes?

Have you googled Moon/Pluto aspects in synastry? There is a great discussion on LL about it. I definitely feel that everything stated on that thread rings very true. The intimacy. Just wanting to BE with that person. The obsession. I cannot rid myself of thoughts of him. It's exhausting. I've tried and tried.

Heres the thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216006.html

Ceridwen, thanks for your insight! It's hard for me to ascertain from my personal experiences, bc often there is so much Pluto going on back and forth that I can't pinpoint what exactly comes from what.

But I'm really trying hard to manage my obsession and expectations with this attraction, and so therefore just maybe trying to minimise how "profound" I find it all and talk myself off the ledge so to speak, lol.

I just need to chill the eff out and let things fall into place, whether that means we are supposed to be together or not. It's just hard when you feel so intensely and you're OBSESSED!!! :/

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posted November 17, 2013 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should also see if there is some kind of midpoint configurations.

For example, in synastry we have only Venus trine Pluto. However, it feels really plutonian. Natally we both have Moon square Pluto, which makes for a conjunction of Moon and Pluto in Composite.

The most tightly aspected planet in our synastry is his Uranus. It makes 5 exact aspects and a few more. However it does feel deep and emotionally bonding. Yesterday i found out that his Uranus is exactly on his own Moon - Pluto midpoint in his chart. That means my ASC exactly squares this midpoint, and my Mars is exactly opposite this midpoint.

That is how this pretty impersonal and unemotional planet Uranus becomes personal for him - it uses his natal tough aspect of Moon - Pluto square and makes him deal with it. So it's important.

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posted November 17, 2013 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selene... yessss... midpoints... lol.... i can't even begin to get into working them all out and spiralling this obession of mine out of control!!!

I have been meditatng on "surrender"... to the universe, to God's plan, to the outcome, whatever it will be.

I've kept a pretty cool-as-acucumber veneer, but this Aqua girl has really been obsessing over this guy, to the point that i have felt opressed and enslaved by thoughts of him. It's really crazy.

I think he would be scared and get a restraining order if he had any inkling!!! LOL.

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posted November 17, 2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I made the same observation. Aspects to the outers have to be really tight, or also involving a personal planet, or an angle, on the other person`s side.

If it is ONLY their Pluto, squaring my Venus, well, it is just background noise, however if they do resonate with Venus-Pluto natally or / and have a personal planet in the brew, it feels very different.


HOW tight?

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posted November 17, 2013 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea too , my venus sextile pluto , trine neptune , square uranus of anyone in the same generation. To tell you frankly , I have no idea how is the different of this.

For example , I've never had a plutonian love style with anyone when their personal planets touch my pluto or vice versa. But I will feel this when the planet touch my angles , it'd be deep and meaningful relationship.


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posted November 17, 2013 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
HOW tight?

2 degrees.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 17, 2013 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus De Milo,

That reminds me so much of a past experience where I was literally crazy over someone... Dear Lord, that was so intense.

Anyway, on topic:

Someone who has a prominent outer planet influence natally, will experience other people from their generation reacting to their natal configuration - so say someone has a very aspected Pluto - they may not think of themselves as very intense or obsessive but other people from their generation will act that way towards them - playing out the Pluto influence for them.

Same goes for Neptune and Uranus.

That's especially true if there's an opposition aspect (projection) but can also happen with the square (less so with the conjunction and the flowing aspects, since they're easier to integrate in the personality). The dynamic is probably changed if the outer planet is in the 1st house though, because it's more "personal" and part of the conscious identity (VS the 7th house and the southern hemisphere in general, where it's more likely to be projected).

So, IME, it's the other people who react strongly to the person who has heavy outer planet influence, at least at first... and then the person in question can also "discover" their own traits related to the outer planet influence.
That's when things become interesting... muahaha.

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posted November 17, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux, that's interesting you should say that, bc natally, I have A LOT of exact outer planet stuff going on...

1st house Pluto exactly sextile Venus/Neptune conjunction in Sag...

NN sextile singleton Uranus in Scorp (2 orb).

This dude hits all of those natal planets in one way or another! Sort of like a game of dominos, lol. I don't hit his outer planets so hard, but the aspects are still there.

We also have EXACT double whammy chiron/juno back and forth :/

I have Chiron at 5 Taurus, his Juno is at 5 Taurus.
I have Juno a 2 Pisces, his Chiron is at 2 Gemini.

Its like, WHOOAAAHHH.

I have to surrender to let it go and stop obsessing about him and what happens next!!! :/

I feel OK wih nothing happening out of this. I used to feel like I was going to suffocate and panic at the same time at the thought that he might never be mine. But I'm (reluctantly) OK with this very real possibility. LOL.... The Rolling Stones just came onto itunes singing "you can't always get what you want"... LOL.... talk about the universe talking to me.. YES I KNOW I'M SAYING I'M OK WITH THAT, UNIVERSE. SHEEESSSH.

But, I do know that he feels a lot of what I'm feeling. He feels a lot of something for me. Probably no as obsessed as I am, but its there. It's a complicated story.

I certainly hope that if I can't get what I want so bad, that I get what I need!!!!

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posted November 19, 2013 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your Priapus (h22) conjoin his BML? I've discovered this can REALLY do that.

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nikki01
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posted November 19, 2013 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nikki01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
guys plzz help the needy .. Is she feeling what im feeling?
any thoughts?
Hers to mine synastry
her Sun Opposition my Sun 0.25 Sun Square Moon 3.23 Sun Trine Saturn 1.48 Sun Sextile Neptune 5.05 Sun Trine Pluto 5.16 Moon ConjunctionVenus 4.49 Moon Square Mars 3.04 Moon Square Jupiter 1.07 Moon Trine Uranus 1.75 Moon Quincunx Neptune 7.90 Moon Square Pluto 7.79 Moon Sextile Chiron 4.83 Moon Sextile P. of
Fortune 0.15 Moon Quincunx Ascendant3.12 Moon Trine Midheaven1.41 Mercury Quincunx Sun 5.62 Mercury Trine Moon 2.64 Mercury Opposition Venus 2.59 Mercury Sextile Uranus 5.33 Mercury Square Pluto 0.71 Mercury Trine Chiron 2.25 Venus Quincunx Sun 1.29 Venus Trine Moon 1.69 Venus Square Saturn 3.02 Venus Square Pluto 3.62 Mars Trine Mercury 0.00 Mars Sextile Mars 1.73 Mars Sextile Jupiter 3.70 Mars ConjunctionLilith 1.23 Mars Sextile Ascendant1.64 Jupiter Sextile Mercury 5.85 Jupiter Trine Mars 4.11 Jupiter Trine Jupiter 2.15 Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 0.67 Jupiter Trine Ascendant4.20 Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven2.49 Saturn Quincunx Sun 0.41 Saturn Trine Moon 2.56 Saturn Square Saturn 2.15 Saturn Square Pluto 4.50 Uranus Trine Mercury 0.80 Uranus Sextile Mars 2.53 Uranus Sextile Jupiter 4.50 Uranus ConjunctionLilith 2.03 Uranus Sextile Ascendant2.44 NeptuneQuincunx Sun 6.23 NeptuneSquare Saturn 4.49 NeptuneOpposition True Node0.66 NeptuneOpposition Vertex 0.44 Pluto Square Sun 1.88 Pluto Opposition Moon 4.85 Chiron Sextile Mercury 4.35 Chiron ConjunctionTrue Node1.29 Chiron ConjunctionVertex 2.40 Chiron Trine Ascendant6.00 Lilith Trine True Node2.03 True
Node Trine Saturn 1.40 True
Node Quincunx Vertex 2.65

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posted November 19, 2013 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo, can you believe I haven't even bothered looking at where his Lillith is? Unbelievably, its at 19 of Aqua.

So that is opposite his Mars/Venus conjunction in Leo, and also sextile his NN and my Venus/Neptune conjunction... and square my natal Uranus. And trine his Moon and my Pluto.

So its like a domino hitting all those points again.

I actually have Lillith opposed Priapus natally... what does Priapus represent? Neither his Priapus or Lillith make any aspect to either of mine.

Nikki, it's really hard to see what aspect is what with the way you've posted them. I would first advise you to look at the most exact aspects, those are the most powerful and meaningful. So those that are under 1 degree orb. Then you can expand and look at the ones that are under 3 orb. I would discard the rest unless there is a stellium or other factor that make them important to look at.

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posted November 19, 2013 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nikki01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am going insane lol Venus De Milo its getting to me.. We speaking very general she called me 'her homies' arg lol that was a bummer i dont see her as a friend so i am now officially in depression mode in my shell (venus in cancer yea) seeing for a function in 2 weeks time maybe she feel something lol wishful thinking until then i am giving up and killing all these emotions krappy .. Thanks for your advise though appreciate it tons hate being a pisces rising so dam emo arg

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posted November 19, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Aqua with only 1 water planet and I'm a basket base obsessive emo, lol! as evidenced above

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posted November 19, 2013 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nikki01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shes an aqua sun , mercury, venus, mars, saturn, uranus, and neptune all in cappy her jupiter is in cancer no idea about her rising sign i think moon is leo or cancer ..
I have been hit with cupids longest arrow haha and now im trying to pull it out bit by bit and it hurts like a b....h...
Never going to tell her what i am feeling the rejection is something i cant handle.. Will be worse than i already am

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posted November 19, 2013 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Does your Priapus (h22) conjoin his BML? I've discovered this can REALLY do that.

Hey Indigo, could you please elaborate on this? I've never really paid attention to Priapus but I'm curious.

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posted November 20, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for Indigo.

Or anyone else for that matter. Ha.

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