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mercuryflow
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posted November 19, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 19, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unevolved Scorpio placements and Plutonians. Mars/Pluto, Moon/Mars hard aspects can also be vindictive. Lilith is associated with vengefulness, so maybe a prominent lilith.

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posted November 19, 2013 11:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You hurt her and she feels it's her duty to hurt you. I'd say moon/mars. My moons sqaures my mars and when someone hurts me or upsets me I make it my mission to ruin them. I'm normally a very nice person until I'm pushed then I'm like the devil lol I don't spread rumors or anything childish like that it's more like verbally attacking and belittling those who've offended me. And once you hit me that low there's no getting over it with that person. I don't like holding grudges but there are some that I can't help but hold one.

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posted November 19, 2013 11:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently Eris more so than pluto..
Yeah lilith too.

I have prominent Eris and Lilith and yes i have been vengeful and vindictive in in the past, not nessarily towards lovers.. but people in general.

To be honest if someone stole the person I was in love with i'm not sure what I would be capable of doing.

They say all is fair in love and war so if you bomb a nation why wouldn't they retaliate?

I won't kill them that's way too messy and extreme, right? LOL
I'd probably do more than just spread lies...
More like life sabotage for the both of them lol.

At the same time I'm pretty trusting, I don't check phones or texts..
and I broke up with one shady mofo real fast... I can't deal with that plus I was not even in love..

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mercuryflow
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posted November 20, 2013 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 20, 2013 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol this makes me think of eris (it conjunct my moon) coz I've just answered an eris thread the other day.

Lilith trine my moon and I have mars/pluto aspects. Idk, I'm not especially vindictive, but once provoked, I'm vengeful. The way I think is that if you are willing to step into my yard, then you'll have to be willing to take me on. There will be more, oh, a lot more than just vicious word plays. Devastating result to everyone involved hahaha. All is fair in love and war.

You don't really expect her to just take it sitting down do you

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posted November 20, 2013 12:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuryflow:
Yes, i do think she is quite plutonian. her mars is in scorpio.

@Barbie
i know i can't apply logic to her, but wouldn't my partner be the one who hurt her?
it would be one thing if she wanted to mouth me off. and i totally understand holding a grudge. but she is very childish, that i don't get. very creative lies designed to get my partner and mutual friends to think less of me. of course no one believes any of it….it's obvious she full of it.

i know her birthday. so i know her chart. it's just hard to fathom that there are people who actually do stuff like that!


Even if their marriage was over when you came into the picture she still clearly wasn't over him and you came in the picture. Look at it from her side of the story. It may have been your husband who did it but from her view it's all your fault. Which is unfortunate. But hey there are many people out in this scary world like that. It's quite sad.

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posted November 20, 2013 12:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh well Im not too petty, he said she said does not really matter to me..
I don't really have to justify my reasons because it brings me pleasure to inflict pain on those who have done me wrong
Ironically acquaintances think I'm a really nice person because of my helpful, accepting, and loving nature.
But honestly I can be really vicious and brutal when provoked and my close friends and family knows this lol.

Yeah personally I don't fall in love quickly.

So surely I would not even try to connect with someone who was in some kind of relationship..
No matter how unstable the relationship is...
Logic comes before love.
I'd never find myself is such a situation.

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posted November 20, 2013 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
I don't really have to justify my reasons because it brings me pleasure to inflict pain on those who have done me wrong

Exactly.

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This makes me think of Game of Thrones.

Tyrion: Is this the bed where Robert died? I'm surprised you kept it.

Cersei: It gives me sweet dreams.

I don't like that character much but I adore some of her "works".

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posted November 20, 2013 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would any particular aspect/placement make the revenge longer or shorter?

I can be vengeful but I'll often make it this long, drawn out, more subtle kind of revenge. It may last months or a year even. I'm not vengeful like egg a car or something. I'll **** with them. hahaha

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posted November 20, 2013 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow!

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posted November 20, 2013 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... libra ascendant??? That would probably explain why she seeks revenge, but doesn't go hard and isn't particularly good at causing havocs lol. Haiz, so lukewarm lol.

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posted November 20, 2013 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha…yep.

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posted November 20, 2013 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you know her birth time?

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posted November 20, 2013 02:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
How do you know her birth time?

I agree why would you wanna know..

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mercuryflow
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posted November 20, 2013 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mm

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mercuryflow
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posted November 20, 2013 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taking a closer look at her chart, i'm hoping, will help me better understand why she's acted this way.

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posted November 20, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the same aspects that would indicate immaturity and insecurity.

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posted November 20, 2013 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might want to keep in mind if he was willing to leave her for you, what happens if things go south btn you two? I'm not trying to upset you but at least take it into consideration.

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posted November 20, 2013 02:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mercuryflow:
taking a closer look at her chart, i'm hoping, will help me better understand why she's acted this way.

But you already know why she is the way she is. I think it's clear as day. We all act and are very different, I don't think astrology's gonna help you find the answer you're looking for. Nor do I understand why you'd want to know. Didn't you say move on already earlier.. Just a thought not trying to be rude

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posted November 20, 2013 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct ascendant, Mercury/Venus/Mars square Pluto, practically a bad afflicted Pluto. I have that.

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mercuryflow
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posted November 20, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by mercuryflow:

we've been together a long time now, still solid.
i'm not worried about him leaving me. if he did, i'd respect his choice.
like i said, their relationship was a mess….she had cheated on him numerous times. there were some crazy incidents that lead to us meeting, pretty cosmic actually. from the way she treated him, i don't feel guilty that he left her for me.

@barbie
i disagree…i think charts map people quite accurately. while yes, it's obvious she's spread rumors about me because my partner left me for her….i want to get to the astrology behind it. and not so much for knowing it about her personally, but for a greater understanding of astrology and personality traits in general. i'm very objective, airy and curious. and some people made some good points. i think she has a lot of un-evolved scorpio energy.


There is no astrology behind it though....it's common sense. She doesn't like you, probably hates your guts. Her husband left her for you regardless of what happened between them he was still her husband. I'm very airy and curious myself and like to see from all angles. How can you get to the astrology behind it without knowing about her personality?

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posted November 20, 2013 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just out of curiosity, what does she do toward him?

Or does she just target you with her ire alone?

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mercuryflow
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posted November 20, 2013 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also just clarifying, they were never married.

i don't think you get where i'm coming from.
i'm in an astrolgoy forum, thinking about what i want to learn about, and it strikes me to ask about her because she's exhibited behavior i haven't seen in anyone else. and i've seen people left for other people many times. her behavior seems out of the ordinary to me, so i wanted to see, firstly what people deem to be placements or aspects that could denote such behavior, then see if any of that is a part of her chart.
and i do think there is astrology behind it. sure she hates me. i get that. but what makes people do that to people they hate? that's what i'm getting at.

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