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birdsong
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posted November 22, 2013 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdsong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces Sun/Venus/Pallas/North node Conjunct in the 8th house and MC in Pisces.

Not sure if I should I follow a Scorpio or Piscean path lol. ?

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Violets
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posted November 22, 2013 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, uh...*cough*
What would it mean to have Sun as the ruler of the chart, Sun in Pisces.
Sag Neptune conjunct NN, square both Sun and Moon.
Neptune/NN in mutual reception with Jupiter.

Anyone??
I've been pondering this for a while, but my knowledge isn't extensive enough to figure it out. Haalp!

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posted November 22, 2013 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Do you feel like you’re not in control of your life ? I think fate plays a major role when outer planets conjunct NN.

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posted November 22, 2013 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
waxlobster is such a great name!

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posted November 22, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Do you feel like you’re not in control of your life ? I think fate plays a major role when outer planets conjunct NN.

Honestly, no. And then yes. Hahaha. That's typical, isn't it?

I have always generally felt a kind of predestined order about things in my life, and serendipitous happenings in general.

Even the really traumatic stuff in my life (or even the self-destructive stuff) seems to serve a very deep purpose that allows me to eventually look at those energies and learn how to become a better person either because of or in spite of them. (That probably doesn't even make sense.)

Sometimes I feel like the positive turns in my life aren't necessarily "pushed" on me, but it's like I'm just...drawn to them, whether I want to be or not. It's like I open the door for my life to change for the better, and I'm allowed some amazing results. But it always comes after some sort of "start over from scratch" situation or something like that.
If you've read the book Siddhartha, that's kind of how my life has felt to me (and continues to feel a lot of the time). Not that I plan to become a master or anything, hahaha.

Also, Neptune helps form the base of my Yod, in addition to being conjunct my NN.

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posted November 23, 2013 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
two things Violet. Firstly you've gone into so much detail about your North Node but omitted one of the most important details ~the house positions. On the other hand with so much information it's impossible to give a simplistic response. It sounds like you need to post your chart and allow a discussion with that in mind. As soon as you start talking about mutual reception I want to know if Jupiter is conjunct your Sun in Pisces, what house they fall in (8th?).

The other question is ~as you clearly know enough about astrology to determine your own answers here~ look at transits.

I learned my North Node when Sun, Venus or Mars transited it. Especially Venus to be honest, the day Venus would transit it an almost dream-like headspace would become accessible. I probably utilise my Nodes a lot more these days so those transits don't have such magical messages.

PS - am a fellow Sagittarius North Node, mine's in the 3rd House. Saturn-Moon conjunct South Node. From coy introspective philosopher to well versed communicator and singer. Note I've regarded the house position as *more* important than the sign ;-)

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posted November 23, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love my NN position, but I hate the opposite(South Node). My NN is in Aquarius 4th house. I definitely feel like I am going back in forth between the Aquarius and Leo aspects. I hate having pride. I absolutely hate it. I feel my south node definitely conflicts with all areas of my chart, or maybe it is enhanced by my scorpio and aries placements, idk. I do know that I hate having pride in myself and a lot of times my ego will eat me up inside. I feel like I am at peace only when I can connect with my humanitarian side(Aquarius). I love to help people but it's hard for me to connect with people when sometimes I feel like I don't take other peoples opinions into consideration. I just want it to be my way or the highway, which I hate, even though this is so prevalent with me.

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posted November 23, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darksoul, if you want to then you already can. Please be more gentle with yourself. Treat yourself with love and the rest will follow :-)

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posted November 23, 2013 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Darksoul, if you want to then you already can. Please be more gentle with yourself. Treat yourself with love and the rest will follow :-)

Easier said than done, I'm so conflicting. Thanks for the advice though .

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posted November 23, 2013 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
I love my NN position, but I hate the opposite(South Node). My NN is in Aquarius 4th house. I definitely feel like I am going back in forth between the Aquarius and Leo aspects. I hate having pride. I absolutely hate it. I feel my south node definitely conflicts with all areas of my chart, or maybe it is enhanced by my scorpio and aries placements, idk. I do know that I hate having pride in myself and a lot of times my ego will eat me up inside. I feel like I am at peace only when I can connect with my humanitarian side(Aquarius). I love to help people but it's hard for me to connect with people when sometimes I feel like I don't take other peoples opinions into consideration. I just want it to be my way or the highway, which I hate, even though this is so prevalent with me.
You can look at it this way. You don't have all the specifics of the situation. Ever. More often than not, you're don't even know the basic outlines of the character of the person you are trying to help. And what's more, they're not obliged to provide you with any insight if they don't want to. So even if you consider someone's requests to be illogical or counterproductive, they have a reason behind it always, be it psychological, practical and what not. There are many ways one can get from point A to point B, with different degrees of efficiency so to speak. But you can't make everyone follow the optimum course. Especially since you might not even know what that optimum course is yourself. Sometimes, it's more important to show someone that their problem can be solved, so they have an experience from where they will be able to overcome similar predicaments. They might even make adjustments next time based on your counsel. If, by aiding them that one time, they have become more able and self-reliant, you can say you have done a truly good job.

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darksoul18
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posted November 23, 2013 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darksoul18:
[b]I love my NN position, but I hate the opposite(South Node). My NN is in Aquarius 4th house. I definitely feel like I am going back in forth between the Aquarius and Leo aspects. I hate having pride. I absolutely hate it. I feel my south node definitely conflicts with all areas of my chart, or maybe it is enhanced by my scorpio and aries placements, idk. I do know that I hate having pride in myself and a lot of times my ego will eat me up inside. I feel like I am at peace only when I can connect with my humanitarian side(Aquarius). I love to help people but it's hard for me to connect with people when sometimes I feel like I don't take other peoples opinions into consideration. I just want it to be my way or the highway, which I hate, even though this is so prevalent with me.

You can look at it this way. You don't have all the specifics of the situation. Ever. More often than not, you're don't even know the basic outlines of the character of the person you are trying to help. And what's more, they're not obliged to provide you with any insight if they don't want to. So even if you consider someone's requests to be illogical or counterproductive, they have a reason behind it always, be it psychological, practical and what not. There are many ways one can get from point A to point B, with different degrees of efficiency so to speak. But you can't make everyone follow the optimum course. Especially since you might not even know what that optimum course is yourself. Sometimes, it's more important to show someone that their problem can be solved, so they have an experience from where they will be able to overcome similar predicaments. They might even make adjustments next time based on your counsel. If, by aiding them that one time, they have become more able and self-reliant, you can say you have done a truly good job.[/B][/QUOTE]

Very true. Is that who I truly am? Am I really just a helper in life? For some odd reason I feel it is my destiny to help other people... I never truly understood why though or what conflicting destiny I was suppose to serve. Would NN in Aquarius make me this way entirely? Thanks for the input.

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posted November 23, 2013 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe, I have NN in Aquarius too. Conjunct my MC at that. I feel the same way. And if that's the case, how convenient for me for my "life mission" to be the same as my inspirations.

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darksoul18
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posted November 23, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darksoul18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
Hehe, I have NN in Aquarius too. Conjunct my MC at that. I feel the same way. And if that's the case, how convenient for me for my "life mission" to be the same as my inspirations.

I think you just made my day. lol

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posted November 23, 2013 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
two things Violet. Firstly you've gone into so much detail about your North Node but omitted one of the most important details ~the house positions. On the other hand with so much information it's impossible to give a simplistic response. It sounds like you need to post your chart and allow a discussion with that in mind. As soon as you start talking about mutual reception I want to know if Jupiter is conjunct your Sun in Pisces, what house they fall in (8th?).

The other question is ~as you clearly know enough about astrology to determine your own answers here~ look at transits.

I learned my North Node when Sun, Venus or Mars transited it. Especially Venus to be honest, the day Venus would transit it an almost dream-like headspace would become accessible. I probably utilise my Nodes a lot more these days so those transits don't have such magical messages.

PS - am a fellow Sagittarius North Node, mine's in the 3rd House. Saturn-Moon conjunct South Node. From coy introspective philosopher to well versed communicator and singer. Note I've regarded the house position as *more* important than the sign ;-)


It's funny that you mention that I should post it in the personal readings forum, because I was actually thinking the same thing. I rarely post there, but I might for this one.

My Neptune is in my 5th, NN in 4th, but they are conjunct.
Pisces Jupiter and Sun in 8th, not conjunct at all.
Virgo Moon in 2nd.
Pisces/Virgo and 2nd/8th are intercepted.
I'll go ahead and post my chart now, haha.
Neptune is on my Sun and BML right now, and when Saturn leaves Scorpio in a couple of years, it will activate the apex of my T-square by hitting my NN and my Neptune (yikes?)
Thanks for your input.

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ScandinavianCrab
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posted November 23, 2013 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NN Leo here in 10th house. 10th house cancer.. Can you believe that?
I haven't found much to read about this combination, but I think I'm well on my way north right now. But it sure gets lonely at times.

It would be great if someone with NN Leo in 10th would like to tell how it has impacted them, and if you too have felt a deeper sense of purpose?

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Sun: Cancer -9th house
Moon: Gemini -9th house
Mercury: Cancer -9th house
Venus: Gemini -9th house
Mars: Virgo -12th house
Jupiter: Virgo -11th house
NN: Leo -10th house
Asc: Libra

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