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Topic: Saturn Sq Sun in a Girl's Chart
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 02:25 PM
I was doing a chart for my friend of his daughter and saw this. What would you have said. ThanksShe also had Moon conj Pluto at 7-8 degrees. What would you have said? Thanks! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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dadoo Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 02:32 PM
I'm interested too. I have a friend like that and I simply don't get her behavior and life choices.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 02:34 PM
This is my friend's daughter. I felt stumped at what to say to him, so I wanted to know what you thought of these aspects as I cannot be objective. I can tell you the houses, too.------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 02:35 PM
Sun is in the 10th and Saturn is in the 5th--at 1 degree. he adore her but then there is this hard aspect that is very close in orb.Do you think he could die and leave her ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2149 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 22, 2013 02:46 PM
Sun or Moon square Saturn means bad or aloof relationship with the mother or father or both.IP: Logged |
dadoo Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 02:46 PM
I observe different things about her:- she has some ambitions that don't really fit her personality (relationship-wise) and that obviously don't work for her in real life - she also has some professional goals which would probably fit her but she lacks the motivation (hidden between lots of "I don't have enough time" kind of excuses) to actually see them to the end. I'm very confused as to what advice I should give her. I'm not even sure I'm adequately pinpointing the problem.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Sun or Moon square Saturn means bad or aloof relationship with the mother or father or both.
Thank you RosOk--So Saturn sq Sun would be the dad, right? Saturn sq Moon would be the mom? Do you break it down that way? It surprised me because he is the best father I have ever seen. What would you make of it, Ros? ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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dadoo Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 02:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Sun or Moon square Saturn means bad or aloof relationship with the mother or father or both.
Unfortunately I don't have my friend's ToB but this wouldn't fit her at all. She has an exceptional relationship with her father and an ok relationship with her mother. IP: Logged |
IrisRainbow Knowflake Posts: 588 From: Pluto Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 03:17 PM
Girl with Sun Square Saturn and Moon square Pluto here!If I were you I would only give him a piece of advice to never burn the tree and then try to save it.That's what my dad always did.IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 2149 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 22, 2013 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind: [b]Sun or Moon square Saturn means bad or aloof relationship with the mother or father or both.
Thank you RosOk--So Saturn sq Sun would be the dad, right? Saturn sq Moon would be the mom? Do you break it down that way? It surprised me because he is the best father I have ever seen. What would you make of it, Ros? [/B][/QUOTE] I am gonna tell you something about these parents that seem to be perfect. Its the image they expose to the outer world. You don't know how things are from inside. Just outside. My parents are making sure everyday to other people that they are good and caring parents when they are not. Read the book Toxic parents. You will understand better what I mean. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 03:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by IrisRainbow: Girl with Sun Square Saturn and Moon square Pluto here!If I were you I would only give him a piece of advice to never burn the tree and then try to save it.That's what my dad always did.
Agree! Saturn square my sun and moon and I have pluto squaring my moon too. I feel distant from my father mainly because he always tried to control me/take my personal power and as a Leo this only caused anger rather than submission. Often I felt like my dad was my enemy at home.But I must say that are others strong aspects going on between us (his pluto conjunct my sun, his saturn conjunct my mars and his sun in my 8th). About moon/pluto I think this girl needs to be encouraged to be independent and don't let mom overwhelm her through love/affection. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 03:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: I am gonna tell you something about these parents that seem to be perfect. Its the image they expose to the outer world. You don't know how things are from inside. Just outside. .
you nailed it! IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 03:57 PM
You know what Ami?When I was a child, an astrologer said to my dad that we would be enemies. He laughed and thought that woman was crazy cause he never would hurt his little girl...I'm not his enemy only because I believe in karma but I admit that there is a latent potential still, I need to have a lot of self control for this don't become real (thanks my Mars and Saturn in Scorpio ones ) IP: Logged |
dadoo Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Mercury Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 03:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by DialecticLady: you nailed it!
How about when you don't know the parents directly but only through the saturn/sun girl's words? Is it possible that the native is fooling herself about them? I doubt very much that she lied to me, precisely because she didn't try to sell them as perfect. IP: Logged |
elixir Knowflake Posts: 1642 From: United States Registered: Apr 2012
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posted November 22, 2013 03:59 PM
I need to read that book..i have sun opposite saturn and neptune. My sun and chiron are both in the same degree so chiron opposes them too. quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: I am gonna tell you something about these parents that seem to be perfect. Its the image they expose to the outer world. You don't know how things are from inside. Just outside. My parents are making sure everyday to other people that they are good and caring parents when they are not. Read the book Toxic parents. You will understand better what I mean.
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DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by dadoo: How about when you don't know the parents directly but only through the saturn/sun girl's words? Is it possible that the native is fooling herself about them? I doubt very much that she lied to me, precisely because she didn't try to sell them as perfect.
I believe there are other ways this aspect could manifest, I believe nothing is doomed to happen, I only told my experience. Maybe your friend can live this aspect through career or has something in her chart that tone down it some way IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6170 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 22, 2013 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind: [b]Sun or Moon square Saturn means bad or aloof relationship with the mother or father or both.
Thank you RosOk--So Saturn sq Sun would be the dad, right? Saturn sq Moon would be the mom? Do you break it down that way? It surprised me because he is the best father I have ever seen. What would you make of it, Ros? [/B][/QUOTE] I have Sun square Saturn and Moon opp. Pluto. Really I think Sun just represents whoever was the most apparent authoritative energy in the household, and Moon is who you felt most nurtured by. My dad was gone a lot when I was little for business, but he was always very nurturing towards me. My mom was the one who ruled with an iron fist. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 05:08 PM
Interesting responses! Please, keep them coming and thank you!------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6777 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 05:29 PM
Sun in hard aspect to Saturn is usually about a lack of a stable / strong father-figure, very often it points to a weak / ill / distant / absent father.The child grows up feeling invalidated by their father which in turn creates a low self-confidence and internal limitations (self-doubts) that are sometimes overcompensated by strong ambitions and a "superior" attitude. Sometimes the father is seen as weak and cannot give the child the imagge of a "guiding" figure... which is also detrimental to the child who needs STRUCTURE. Again, this can lead to a weak sense of responsibilities and a lack of follow-through in different areas of life (self-defeating tendencies). Moon/Pluto is usually about a suffocating mother... "too" something. Too controlling, too smothering, too protective, and so on. Can in turn create a fear of enmeshment in the child (fear of getting close to others due to emotional expectations that seem overwhelming).
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 49906 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 05:48 PM
Thank you Doux. Wonderful, as always!------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 6777 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted November 22, 2013 05:55 PM
You're very welcome, Ami. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady Knowflake Posts: 286 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 22, 2013 09:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sometimes the father is seen as weak and cannot give the child the imagge of a "guiding" figure... which is also detrimental to the child who needs STRUCTURE.
I experienced this. I lost my vision that my father was a hero when I was about 9 years old and replaced this by one teacher I had at school. I had classes with this same teacher from my 11 years to 18 years old (7 years/saturn? lol) and he was my guide for any matter in my life and still is in some way because what he taught to me is part of my structure(I lost contact with him after school) Interesting is he was a gemini and I have gemini NN in 5th house. God bless him IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 400 From: The Strand Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 22, 2013 10:41 PM
I have oppositions but don't wAnt to go into it again. There was a post about this a few weeks ago, so maybe it should be looked up.Look to see which houses Sun and Saturn rule and it could also tell you more about the conflict this girl may feel. Square is easier to resolve than opposition. IP: Logged |
themischievousone Knowflake Posts: 345 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 23, 2013 02:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Sun in hard aspect to Saturn is usually about a lack of a stable / strong father-figure, very often it points to a weak / ill / distant / absent father.The child grows up feeling invalidated by their father which in turn creates a low self-confidence and internal limitations (self-doubts) that are sometimes overcompensated by strong ambitions and a "superior" attitude.
I would agree with this. I have Sun Square Saturn (1 Degree). I was very close to my dad growing up until he passed but I think I may have the extreme scenario of it. Other aspects to the sun may give more clues of her relationship/view of her father(Other than this and an 8 degree conj w/Mercury, the sun in my chart is heavily aspected with soft aspects)
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beenylove Knowflake Posts: 362 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 24, 2013 09:13 AM
I have sun square saturn. My father is a strong, positive and powerful influence in my life. The past few months however, our relationship has gotten rocky. My sun is in the 10th house and so far I have had success in my career. The only issue I have noticed is reversal in successes. For an example, I was ranked first in my entire batch for years, until one day I started falling. But after that ended and the next phase began, I was on top of the ladder, until I fell again. But then I rose again. So every time I succeed, I suddenly start dropping, but I know that I will get back to the top again. That is exactly how it manifests for me.IP: Logged |