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saguitarius
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posted November 29, 2013 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey dear guys,

now, he is back. He is overly sweet to me which is good and acts as if nothing has happened.

However, he now started calling the other house mates "darling" as well which is really suspicious haha. He just wants to tell me now even more that he did not try to tell me anything with all his actions.
And he suddenly not only has "a song of the week" but also a "person of the month" which is a girl that works with him. I asked him why she got the person of the month and he answered "because she helped me a lot and I really like her". I don't know, however, if only as a friend or more...

What do you think...
Could it be that he wants to act like this for a while and has plans to open up afterwards?
Or does this show me that has no plans of getting together with me anymore?

Thank you.

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Canadiangirl
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posted November 29, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, it sounds like he's playing games of 'favourites' with you. I'd back off and let him come running to you. That will wake him up.

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posted November 29, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey dear guys,

now, he is back. He is overly sweet to me which is good and acts as if nothing has happened.

However, he now started calling the other house mates "darling" as well which is really suspicious haha. He just wants to tell me now even more that he did not try to tell me anything with all his actions.
And he suddenly not only has "a song of the week" but also a "person of the month" which is a girl that works with him. I asked him why she got the person of the month and he answered "because she helped me a lot and I really like her". I don't know, however, if only as a friend or more...

What do you think...
Could it be that he wants to act like this for a while and has plans to open up afterwards?
Or does this show me that has no plans of getting together with me anymore?

Thank you.

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saguitarius
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posted November 29, 2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by saguitarius:
Thank you for your kinds words
I like him so much that I having patience would be worth it.
And yes, he is indeed pretty open otherwise and assertive as well. He is not as shy as the last cancer guy Maybe because he has more fire in his chart.

Thank you all guys for your help and your comments. Tomorrow or on Thursday he will return... I'll keep you posted


Hey dear guys,

now, he is back. He is overly sweet to me which is good and acts as if nothing has happened.

However, he now started calling the other house mates "darling" as well which is really suspicious haha. He just wants to tell me now even more that he did not try to tell me anything with all his actions.
And he suddenly not only has "a song of the week" but also a "person of the month" which is a girl that works with him. I asked him why she got the person of the month and he answered "because she helped me a lot and I really like her". I don't know, however, if only as a friend or more...

What do you think...
Could it be that he wants to act like this for a while and has plans to open up afterwards?
Or does this show me that has no plans of getting together with me anymore?

Thank you.

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saguitarius
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posted November 29, 2013 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the mess and posting it three times.
I thought that it was not put through at first.

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saguitarius
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posted November 29, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
Ugh, it sounds like he's playing games of 'favourites' with you. I'd back off and let him come running to you. That will wake him up.

Yeah, you're right but how should I back off when we're living together. I can't just not be at home for several days.

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posted November 29, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, and a detail that you should maybe know is that he has known for a long time that I like him.
He even has known it when he was still in the long-distance relationship.

So that I like him is nothing new to him.
And that I realized that he might like me as well when he started calling me "darling" and "babe" and gave me lots of other hidden signs should not have surprised him at all.

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posted November 29, 2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just treat him like any other friend and try not to gush whenever he gives you a little attention. Its just feeding his ego and confusing you and that's not worth it. What would he be like if you two *were* dating? Would he try to make you jealous? Just live your life.

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charlie
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posted November 29, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, he is playing games...and will keep on doing so

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saguitarius
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posted November 29, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does he do that? What's the sense of playing these games? I have always thought that he is a good and nice guy who would never hurt people on purpose. This is sad and I'm starting to get annoyed of him now ....

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posted November 29, 2013 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It may give him a sense of power to lead people on.

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posted November 29, 2013 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by saguitarius:
Why does he do that? What's the sense of playing these games? I have always thought that he is a good Amt nice guy who would never hurt people on purpose. This is sad and I'm starting to get annoyed of him now ....

Cancers; we; I, do play games because 1: we are good at it. 2: people let us do it. 3: we are insecure. When we are SURE about something or someone there will be no games and we are all in! And we will go and get it. But this goes for many signs and humans. When we want something enough we will do anything to get it, right?

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posted November 29, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Cancers; we; I, do play games because 1: we are good at it. 2: people let us do it. 3: we are insecure. When we are SURE about something or someone there will be no games and we are all in! And we will go and get it. But this goes for many signs and humans. When we want something enough we will do anything to get it, right?

I talked with one of my other flat mates now. She told me that she asked him two weeks ago if he liked me because she noticed that he was calling me baby and stuff. He said to her that he is very much in love with me and even broke up with his girfriend because of me . This does not seem like that he does not really want to be with me , does it?
Could it be that my opening up is the cause that he is Not sure anymore? Or could it be that he is just too embarrased to say that he really wanted to tell me something with these signs ?

I really appreciate taking your time to help and answer.
All in all, i know that i love you, cancer-people. That's why there are so many cancers in my life. Maybe it's just him and me that are not meant to be ...

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posted November 29, 2013 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saguitarius: He said to her that he is very much in love with me and even broke up with his girfriend because of me.

All in all, i know that i love you, cancer-people. That's why there are so many cancers in my life. Maybe it's just him and me that are not meant to be ...

--Really glad to hear that. My biggest concern is how he has favourites which seem to change. Its not healthy to do that as it creates jealousy and confusion. You do not need that in your life. I would still let him approach you and make him be very clear what he wants.

Glad to hear you like Cancers, we seem to have a bad rep here. :P Also, are you British. You used the term flatmates

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posted November 29, 2013 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear he is being that way Charlie is right though, almost every post I've seen about Cancer troubles has had a verrrry similar story. Also being such a sensitive and feminine sign, I think the males can sometimes feel they have a lot to prove with all the game playing... But especially if he has mommy issues... You probably don't want that anyway tbh

I understand the appeal though.. Nothing can melt my icy capricorn heart like a Cancer lol but I could've saved myself a lot of suffering with one in particular by not thinking I knew what he was doing and could wait it out. (should've moved on earlier despite him saying I'm so "special", and some day we would get married, and build a house, and take care of each other, and blah blah). I still have a soft spot for water signs but now I'd take a passionate Scorpio over an indecisive Cancer any day lol

But anyway, if you really want to play into his game, since being direct hasn't seemed to work... Be friendly with him but do the same and pretend nothing happened and you don't like him as anything more than that. Go on a date with someone else and let him overhear you talking about it, or better yet bring the date in and show him around while the Cancer guy is home. If he doesn't pounce after that it's probably a lost cause.. Don't let it get dragged out cause he'll probably have no problem stringing you along. But don't take it personally either... There's plenty of other fish (or crabs lol) as they say

Do you have any Cancer in your chart? I'm a Cancer ASC and SN, so I think that made it a difficult theme to move away from for me at least

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posted November 29, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, not all Cancers are the same. I do not play games and am very straight forward. Please do not avoid some cancers bc they happen to have bad experiences with some other ones in the past. There seriously needs to be a why I like Cancers chat bc I have just heard the negatives.

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posted November 29, 2013 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ugh, not all Cancers are the same. I do not play games and am very straight forward. Please do not avoid some cancers bc they happen to have bad experiences with some other ones in the past.

Sorry I didn't mean to imply all cancers are the same... I love cancers as friends, and know a few (mostly girls) who don't play games in relationships, but it's something I've noticed in particular with the straight males I've encountered irl.

Cancer is the "mother figure" of the zodiac, so a lot of times I think issues surrounding gender and childhood really do get carried into adult relationships and can cause problems (unless the childhood was very stable). I'm a female Cap Sun with daddy issues, so it's not a judgment just an observation lol. I also have the Cap/Cancer paradox to deal with so I understand the root of their game playing when it happens... Maybe I understand it a little too well which is why I wouldn't be a good match for a Cancer lol. But that's just me personally, every person and relationship is different of course...

From astro.com:

"It may sound simplistic to say that all Cancer men are mother-bound. But it would come close to the truth. This man is tied, one way or another -in love or in hate, and often in both - to Mother. It's his biggest test in life and in love.

Cancer is a sign of fertile imagination and deep emotional needs. They don't like to stand alone. Cancer men are often eternally searching for that nurturing, protecting partner who will always forgive and understand them - especially if they didn't find it in childhood. You might well ask, Why not? What's wrong with that? Nothing, of course. But in each man's unconscious, buried deep within him, is the myth of the Hero. How can a hero keep running back to Mummy for comfort and understanding? The mother-son bond is one of the most difficult things Cancer must contend with in life.

It helps to understand that, for a man, this is a sign with a lot of innate conflict. Sensitivity and imagination don't mix with society's macho expectations. Did I hear you say times have changed, women (and men) are liberated, etc.? Maybe in the world's big cosmopolitan cities. But most of the rest of the world hasn't heard yet.

The Cancer man is never an easy partner. He's too complex. He can be evasive and indirect, and the deeper the problem, the less likely you are to hear about it. He can be sulky and crabby one moment, effusively sentimental the next. Even when he's wearing that hyper-rational mask and pretends to be clear and logical, he's elusive and mysterious, and you'll never really get to the bottom of his secret soul. But most of all, this man has an incredible depth and array of feeling, and he's deeply, richly, stunningly alive. "


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posted November 29, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FireMoon:
[B] Sorry I didn't mean to imply all cancers are the same... I love cancers as friends, and know a few (mostly girls) who don't play games in relationships, but it's something I've noticed in particular with the straight males I've encountered

Thank you for saying that Firemoon. It is just hard to hear so many negatives about cancers on here. I do not know if a lot of cancer men tend to play games because I do not know that many. It just feels like cancers are all painted with the same brush here.

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posted November 29, 2013 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stupid Gemini mulitasking side :P Sorry about the extra post here

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posted November 29, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I definitely understand generalizations can be annoying... I think of course it can also just be a maturity thing too for any sign...

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posted November 29, 2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True that.

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posted December 01, 2013 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I am British. He is Mexican, though. He has been here in Great Britain for 9 years which means he abandoned home and thus also his mother with 18 years.

He said to me that he loves his mother but he does not mind if he only has a skype-call with her once a month. He is very attached to his grand-mother, though. She is not in a very good physical state and very old and he is very sad about her not feeling good anymore and needing so much help.
What does this show?

He does not talk about his mother very often... But he asks me questions about my mother and always is super loud in the background when I have phone calls with my mother so that she can hear him and asks how he's doing haha.

Now, he was telling me that I take things too literally?! Which could be a pun on his "baby" and "darling" or also on his text message...

I just don't get this man.


The other night, I went out with one of my room-mates and a friend of her kissed me. As you all said it might be good to make him jealous, I seized the chance and had a good time with him, we kissed and danced all night.
The next morning, my roommate asked me how it was with the guy. The cancer-guy was sitting next to us and was very curious. I told him then, that a guy kissed me last night and he said "But did you kiss him back,then??" and I said that I did of course because he was nice. He seemed jealous and wanted to know who he was and as I told him that this guy even introduced me to his friends as his new "girlfriend" (which is strange but he did that) he said that this guy might not waste time as other guys do.
After that he kept on coming closer to me, leaning his arm on my chair while I was sitting there, which he never did before...

I will just keep on observing now...
I am such a horrible optimist and still have hope that he does not play games and is just too shy


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posted December 01, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saguitarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, after the day, I told him that I kissed this guy, he kept singing "you're breaking my heart, I'm down on my knees, I'm begging you please to come home".

He repeated this verse several times while we where together in the kitchen - alone.

I know he says that I should not take things too literally but sometimes it seems like that he is saying things with lyrics... how could these many teeny-tiny messages not be allusions?
Also because I know my ex-boyfriend, who as a cancer, made soooooo many allusions all the time. This indirect way of saying things was just his method to convey his messages.

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posted December 02, 2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know how some cancer men are like, they can drive you insane with their mixed messages. Honestly, walk away from him, it doesn't sound like he's worth all this frustration. My ex was a cancer sun and I just gave up on him, he was too inconsistent and frankly his games really annoyed me. The funny thing is I'm a cancer sun so you would have thought I would understand him.

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