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JudyVanTassel
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posted November 26, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 5 house it's supposed to be related to your kids, your creations, creativity,etc. My mother has the cusp of her 5 house in virgo (which i read somewhere, it gives girls and not too much children). Well, i'm a girl and i am the only kid my mother has. My father has 2 more kids from other women, but my mother only has me.
Ok, the cusp of her 5 house is late virgo, but libra is intercepted there with neptune in libra and saturn in scorpio, saturn is almost touching the cusp of 6 house, but stills be in 5.
My question is, does is planets represent me in anyway?? I know it's not my chart, is her chart, and even i'm her daughter she has her life and her own things to live, maybe this means other things for her and has nothing to do with me, but i was curious about this.
Does the 5 house sign or planets there represent what kind of child?

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posted November 26, 2013 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. My father has a Gemini 5th house. My oldest sister is a Gemini. I'm his last and youngest child. His 9th house is in Leo and his ASC is Scorpio.
I have Mercury and Venus in Leo AND Scorpio ASC.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you should be able to see similarities between your mother's 5H and your own chart.

My mother's 5H definitely shows my placements, and my sister's placements. It's quite amazing.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
The 5 house it's supposed to be related to your kids, your creations, creativity,etc. My mother has the cusp of her 5 house in virgo (which i read somewhere, it gives girls and not too much children). Well, i'm a girl and i am the only kid my mother has. My father has 2 more kids from other women, but my mother only has me.
Ok, the cusp of her 5 house is late virgo, but libra is intercepted there with neptune in libra and saturn in scorpio, saturn is almost touching the cusp of 6 house, but stills be in 5.
My question is, does is planets represent me in anyway?? I know it's not my chart, is her chart, and even i'm her daughter she has her life and her own things to live, maybe this means other things for her and has nothing to do with me, but i was curious about this.
Does the 5 house sign or planets there represent what kind of child?


I think it's the fourth house that relates to how many kids your mom has and the eighth house is how many you will have. Fifth house is just about fun and pursuits of that nature, someone who never grows up kinda thing.

So you would look at your mother's eighth house, and your fourth house for clues about yourself. Your eighth house for clues about your future children.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Not from what I've seen...
5H points to your kids.

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JudyVanTassel
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posted November 26, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes....but the thing is i don't think i fit her 5 house.
I have nothing in virgo or libra. Only that i have ascendant scorpio and a lot of aspects to neptune, saturn and mercury. But i'm cancer with moon in aquarius.
Does all my aspects to those planets could represent that??

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posted November 26, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ Not from what I've seen...
5H points to your kids.

It doesn't make sense for them to be in the fifth house. That one is before the seventh. Trust me, it's the eighth.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Yes....but the thing is i don't think i fit her 5 house.
I have nothing in virgo or libra. Only that i have ascendant scorpio and a lot of aspects to neptune, saturn and mercury. But i'm cancer with moon in aquarius.
Does all my aspects to those planets could represent that??


What sign is on her eighth?

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posted November 26, 2013 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarlightSmileSupreme. 8 house?? 4 house?? For kids?? I thought it was related to the 5, which is your creations and yes, fun. But that house talks about children too or at least it was what i thought.
Could you explain more what you said about 8 house and 4 house?? Why do you know that

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posted November 26, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her eight house is capricorn with mars almost on the cusp, but mars is more in her 7.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
StarlightSmileSupreme. 8 house?? 4 house?? For kids?? I thought it was related to the 5, which is your creations and yes, fun. But that house talks about children too or at least it was what i thought.
Could you explain more what you said about 8 house and 4 house?? Why do you know that


Because you get married, have sex then have kids. Yo do not have kids, get married and then have sex.

Marriage is house seventh. Sex and kids are house eighth. Sex is procreation last I checked.

Anyway, what sign is on her eighth house, please?

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posted November 26, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her 4 house is late leo, with a lot of virgo inside. Her 4 house is exactly my MC. My MC is as well late leo with a lot of virgo inside

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posted November 26, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Her eight house is capricorn with mars almost on the cusp, but mars is more in her 7.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5H is self-expression, sex and creation.
Which leads to children. That's the way I see it.


You look at the house cusp of the 5H, the RULER of the 5H and its condition (don't forget to do that!!!) and the planets in the 5H and the aspects they make.

You can't just say something like 'my mother has Virgo in her 5H and I have no Virgo!' uh, no. There's more to it than that.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
[b]StarlightSmileSupreme. 8 house?? 4 house?? For kids?? I thought it was related to the 5, which is your creations and yes, fun. But that house talks about children too or at least it was what i thought.
Could you explain more what you said about 8 house and 4 house?? Why do you know that


Because you get married, have sex then have kids. Yo do not have kids, get married and then have sex.

Marriage is house seventh. Sex and kids are house eighth. Sex is procreation last I checked.

Anyway, what sign is on her eighth house, please?[/B][/QUOTE]

Wrong. 8th house deals with sex, death, legacies.
5th house is the house of children.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Her 4 house is late leo, with a lot of virgo inside. Her 4 house is exactly my MC. My MC is as well late leo with a lot of virgo inside

That's interesting. Her fourth house is her own family and mother. The tenth house is the home she has with her husband and how she will mother her own children. It's a place where she shares with the partner taking on responsibility instead of just circumstances she was born into where she doesn't really have a say. She doesn't get to choose her parents or their home, but she can contribute to the choices she makes later, when she has her own home, and she takes on the responsibility of it. MC is about real responsibilities in the mature world. IC is the foundation in childhood. The two houses are deeply connected. Traditionally, it's thought people with privileged upbringings would lead charmed lives and had prominence in the world while those born to the lower classes experienced more hardship and poverty. See the connection between the two houses, whom you were born to, your childhood, and then where you end up as an adult, your career, earning potential, influence? This is the jurisdiction of the MC.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Wrong. 8th house deals with sex, death, legacies.
5th house is the house of children.


That's just your opinion. I don't go by yours but thanks for sharing.

I have already explained mine so if you want to explain why yours is better, please feel free What is the logic behind yours?

I can see the connection between sex and children but sex and death? How do you know this is the legacy house? What if twelfth is the house of legacy since it is the one of endings? What about the MC, why can't it be an indicator of legacy?

Why is it eighth house is thought of as death when it is immediately after the house of marriage and indicates resources one shares with one's marriage partner? Why should children be in house five when the marriage house is seven? Feel free to explain it and please do not just recite what you read in astrology books.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
5H is self-expression, sex and creation.
Which leads to children. That's the way I see it.


You look at the house cusp of the 5H, the RULER of the 5H and its condition (don't forget to do that!!!) and the planets in the 5H and the aspects they make.

You can't just say something like 'my mother has Virgo in her 5H and I have no Virgo!' uh, no. There's more to it than that.


Yeah.... I know is more, that's why i asked if maybe because she has neptune and saturn there and i have a lot of aspects in my chart to those planets (and mercury, the ruler of virgo) i thought maybe that was an answer. Looking at her aspects makes me more confuse because she has a lot!!!! I mean her neptune is so aspected (well aspected) makes a sextile with pluto in leo in the cusp of her 4 then a trine with venus in her 1 and the pluto and venus makes a sextile as well in her chart is a trine with these planets, and the ruler of her 5 house virgo is mercury which is in gemini in her 12 house, and it's the ruler of her ascendant as well.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you have your answer.

You say she has Neptune & Saturn in her 5H, and you have Sun opposite Neptune & Saturn.


Boom.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
[b]Her 4 house is late leo, with a lot of virgo inside. Her 4 house is exactly my MC. My MC is as well late leo with a lot of virgo inside


That's interesting. Her fourth house is her own family and mother. The tenth house is the home she has with her husband and how she will mother her own children. It's a place where she shares with the partner taking on responsibility instead of just circumstances she was born into where she doesn't really have a say. She doesn't get to choose her parents or their home, but she can contribute to the choices she makes later, when she has her own home, and she takes on the responsibility of it. MC is about real responsibilities in the mature world. IC is the foundation in childhood. The two houses are deeply connected. Traditionally, it's thought people with privileged upbringings would lead charmed lives and had prominence in the world while those born to the lower classes experienced more hardship and poverty. See the connection between the two houses, whom you were born to, your childhood, and then where you end up as an adult, your career, earning potential, influence? This is the jurisdiction of the MC.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes now it has my attention!!!! My MC is her IC, and my IC is her MC!!!!!! Oh my god this makes sense, you said the mc is the house she builds for her children too?

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posted November 26, 2013 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Well, you have your answer.

You say she has Neptune & Saturn in her 5H, and you have Sun opposite Neptune & Saturn.


Boom.



DouxRêve you really think there's a connection between that?? I think yes, but is that enough?

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posted November 26, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Yes now it has my attention!!!! My MC is her IC, and my IC is her MC!!!!!! Oh my god this makes sense, you said the mc is the house she builds for her children too?

That is why I LOVE charts so much! When you compare charts between kids and parents, you see so many startling patterns and it starts to click. It just makes sense! You can even see your genetic traits you inherited from your parents in the placements and aspects in your chart!

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posted November 26, 2013 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] Wrong. 8th house deals with sex, death, legacies.
5th house is the house of children.


That's just your opinion. I don't go by yours but thanks for sharing.

I have already explained mine so if you want to explain why yours is better, please feel free What is the logic behind yours?

I can see the connection between sex and children but sex and death? How do you know this is the legacy house? What if twelfth is the house of legacy since it is the one of endings? What about the MC, why can't it be an indicator of legacy?

Why is it eighth house is thought of as death when it is immediately after the house of marriage and indicates resources one shares with one's marriage partner? Why should children be in house five when the marriage house is seven? Feel free to explain it and please do not just recite what you read in astrology books. [/B][/QUOTE]

You do realize that you are the ONLY one who says 8th house is the house of children... right? If you want to reinvent astrology, you chose the wrong place and wrong time.

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posted November 26, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That is why I LOVE charts so much! When you compare charts between kids and parents, you see so many startling patterns and it starts to click. It just makes sense! You can even see your genetic traits you inherited from your parents in the placements and aspects in your chart!

WOWW YEAH!!!!! This is fascinating

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posted November 26, 2013 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
You do realize that you are the ONLY one who says 8th house is the house of children... right? If you want to reinvent astrology, you chose the wrong place and wrong time.

Traditionally it is the house of sex and procreation which can result in children.

Fifth house is a courting house. It's fun dates you do as a teenager with the one you will eventually marry. How much success you have depends on what's going on in the fifth.

You do realize sex has always been assigned to the eighth house in every single book I have ever read? So, why would you go backwards to the fifth after having sex in the eighth to have children. Next logical step is to the eighth with your shared resources between you and your partner. You do realize children are kinda like a shared resource between two people. It takes two, a man and woman, to create them and you know how people feel about them being married. Most would prefer they be that way before procreating, right? Or, do you believe in single parenting?

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