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MsPrism
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posted November 27, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
9 times out of 10 gemini does not care about you.
They have just been told their whole lives to be empathetic to others suffering .
They are good at faking emotions so I suppose they are more prone to psychopathy.

Finally, someone understands me!

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posted November 27, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
9 times out of 10 gemini does not care about you.
They have just been told their whole lives to be empathetic to others suffering .
They are good at faking emotions so I suppose they are more prone to psychopathy.

Even geminis with a lot of pluto or cancer going on?

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posted November 27, 2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PixieJane: Naw, just a little wry humor on my part.

Ugh! And here I thought PixieJane was turning on me!

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PixieJane
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posted November 27, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for how "powerful and sexy and magnetic and irresistible Scorpio is" that probably has to do with the image of brooding passions which a lot of people seem to like for various reasons. Another stereotype is that Scorpio is successful, and probably are if they can control their self-destructive impulses and sensitivity/paranoia. Anyone who knows what they wants and gets it is sexy, powerful, and magnetic to a lot of people (at least most women seem to appreciate that in men, though plenty of women also appreciate the brooding passionate guy, especially if he "only shows his true self to me").

What I don't get is why some people are drawn to the Gray Lizards unless it's a teenage girl trying to upset her parents or some guy who thinks he can have his way with her (enough were that way with my mom though she was the one who played them while the idiotic guys who fell for her Scorpio charms thinking it was the other way around). I wonder if the women drawn to such obsessive stalking jerks are also into other forms of self-harm as well (that is, a cry for help and/or self-hatred).

The one stereotype I don't get is Scorpio as being into things like orgies and swinging. While Scorpio tends to be more fearless at questioning the standards of society they're also known for their jealousy & obsession...and how does jealous obsession equate to free love? It doesn't (I'd expect Scorpios that were probably have a Sag Uranus and/or Eros, not to say that I'd think they are into that if they have such a placement). And Scorpio tends to be so guarded about their passions that I'd think they'd be more inclined to have casual sex with someone they held in contempt rather than felt affection for (but then some get off on being treated with contempt).

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posted November 27, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told that I'm amazingly sexy, but I don't see it. I'm a Scorpio ascendant. Of course, that was a while ago, so it might not be true anymore. I still wonder what was going on one night last Summer, when I was on the receiving end of a wolf whistle, a blown kiss from a young guy in a fancy car, and something else that I've forgotten. I asked my Dad if I looked slutty, even though I was wearing things I'd worn before.

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posted November 27, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Sun and Virgo Mercury.

As much as I keep reading about how they can be straightforward and blunt, most often than not they shut up about how they really feel and pretend people can read their minds somehow.

It can be annoying.

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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Agreed.

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Oh, I know.


Leo Suns and confidence.

A lot of Leo Suns (that I've known personally) appear confident but aren't really when you get to know them on a more personal level.

I suppose that goes for a lot of people, though.

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teasel,

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posted November 27, 2013 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay...I'm gonna sound like I hate all Libras, but I really don't. My best friend in school was a double Libra.

In general, I don't find most Libra stereotypes to be true.

I really do hate that whole "omg Libras are so kind and peace loving!!!1111!!!!!!1!!!" stereotype. If anything, most of the Libra suns that I've known (more so than any other sun sign) were completely two faced and had an air of superiority about them (arrogance). A lot of them were also really manipulative (or at least they tried be, most of them were terrible liars). The whole stereotypical description of them...only what they pretended to be.

I also don't find most Libra ascendants all that attractive, too generic/bland looking for me. I've seen some pretty good looking ones, but for the most part...meh, too conventional looking. Overhyped, big time.

And a lot of Libra Venus people that I've known (I've known Virgo suns, Libra and Scorpio's with this placement) were not the super romantic people that they are claimed to be. A lot of them were quite the opposite, actually.

LOOOOL, but seriously...I don't hate all Libra placements. Libra Mercury is probably my favorite Mercury placement.

I apologize in advance to anyone with these placements.

Okay, now me.

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Capricorn Moon/Venus
Taurus Ascendant
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Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I actually agree...

Libra Suns can be quite arrogant and argumentative.

Libra Venus is not always "romantic" in the watery, Piscean sense... Libra's symbol is an inanimate object, after all. The scales that weigh the pros and cons. Air element - focused on the mind, ideas, communication.

Oh but they can be very romantic if other things in the chart support it.


Libra Mercury is usually a pretty cool placement but they can also be arrogant and argumentative, just like the Suns... from what I've noticed.


The ASC's aren't necessarily "beautiful" or "attractive" per se, but they're usually "pleasant" to look at. They give off a calm / refined vibe.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay, I'll bite... the common wisdom about Virgos is that they are health conscious and careful about what they put into their bodies, but I know more than one Virgo who isn't - at all - and I have gotten to know a Virgo lady real well recently who has smoked for years, despite the fact that she suffers from mini - strokes which affect her memory and ability to gainfully work; lady is still smoking. She does not exercise regularly and she eats whatever she wants.

And I agree with the Libra thing; I know some really, really abrasive Libras - the kind who don't care what they say, how it lands, or what anyone else thinks of them.

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posted November 27, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Scorpio Mars is such a disappointment. They're supposed to be sex gods but they are really very vanilla. LOL
(not that that's a bad thing but their abilities are blown out of proportion)

I think Virgos are actually very disorganized and confused most of the time UNLESS they have strong Libra or Leo placements.

When it comes to health and diet obsessions Taurus women are often on extremes. They either love all kinds of food and weigh a bit more or they're fussy vegans.


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NeptunianSag
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posted November 27, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All libra ascendants are attractive is so wrong for me, I have acne, messy hair and not conventional like a model. I attribute the acne and messy hair to mars squaringu my asc though. I wonder if there are other libra ascendants who are just average/not conventionally stunning.

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posted November 27, 2013 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

The ASC's aren't necessarily "beautiful" or "attractive" per se, but they're usually "pleasant" to look at. They give off a calm / refined vibe.

thank you. Someone finally said it. The Libras I know lack presence, big time. Both presence and charisma. It cracks me up seeing those beautifully crafted poems written about Libras.
I'm not generalizing, again I'm talking my observations about real life Libras. They are so judgmental, and think everyone is jealous of them and want to take them down. The women lack confidence and seem to be jealous of every woman in sight ... and threatened when a beautiful woman walks by. It's fun to watch.
I want to add they're very biased and not fair.


Virgos, I used to go by the stereotype and find them very boring and stagnant, but meeting up with more and more Virgos, they're simply fun people to be around. Very unpredictable sometimes, and sacrificial - more than Pisces.


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posted November 27, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny thing, I've never met a Scorpio who matched the stereotype. All my Scorpio buddies are bright, funny, sociable and very creative. They usually have a very unique and yet subtle talent.

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posted November 27, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Astrological Stereotypes and HARSH TRUTHS!!

A quick glance and I thought it said "hard thrust". Reminded me of Ami Ann's thread title.

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Most of the caps I know aren't that hard working. Well some can be, but we don't really enjoy it. We only want to laze around on the beach with a colourful drink in our hand.

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posted November 27, 2013 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Finally, someone understands me!

takes one to know one!

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Janah
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posted November 27, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Janah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, no love for Geminis?

I'm pretty offended considering I have a Gemini Rising. Then I remember that my chart ruler is in my 12th house and I have an 8th house stellium, so not caring for others is almost impossible for me :P Actually, I don't get positive vibes from most Gemini suns I know. I feel like they can't love and connect with me on a deep level. My aunt's a Gemini and me and her have had a turbulent relationship since I was a baby!

Virgo Risers can nag, nag, nag, but they really do love and care for their friends. They are loyal companions. They have interesting senses of humor.

Leo Suns...whoo. They always burn me, but I love 'em. They tend to draw in attention (good and bad) without even trying. And the weapon that usually does that IS their glorious hair. :')

Cancer-influenced people I know are LUNAtics, but they're popular at the same time.

Capricorn Moon people can appear as snobby a-holes at first, but once you get to know them...you will always receive the truth, have support, and always die of laughter. Funny people.

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posted November 27, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You misunderstand, they may not care about you but that does not mean they won't help you.

It's actually a talent if you think about.
Gemini can help you with out getting caught into your emotional drama.
They are resistant to emotional vampire types.

For gemini it's all about integrity.

I have sun conjunct Aldebaran exact which happens to be all about integrity.
I help people around me because it's the right thing to do not because I have a need or a want...
I clean up your mess with out breaking down in the process.

Aquarius is kind of the same way but they don't know how to fake emotions. Gemini's fake "sympathetic" human loving nature is how they help others by "being" there for others while not actually being there..

Honestly very few people have access to a gemini's soul.
It does not matter if your a family either, they have to want to give you their soul. I'd imagine they have a very special connection with that person.. like a soul connection.

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posted November 27, 2013 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember when I was younger (and much more snarky) I was called arrogant, argumentive, and the like. So I asked how to better communicate my thoughts. Online I even pointed out threads where I was called this. And I've certainly shown others how to word things differently so I know it can be done.

But what I learned was it wasn't HOW I was communicating, it was that I dared challenge their views and didn't do what they ordered me to do in the first place and THAT is what made me "arrogant" etc. Furthermore, they were calling me arrogant could dish it out and felt right for doing so but then were shocked & outraged when they got their own medicine served back to them (that is they were just as argumentive or even more so but say "I don't think so" and they get upset). Well if that's the case, then GOOD, may I always be so, I'd rather be thought of as arrogant than a doormat. Though of course I don't consider it arrogant just as I don't consider others arrogant for promoting a view contrary to mine or asserting something I don't agree with. It's not that we're arrogant it's that those calling us that are insecure and/or dogmatic who feel judged for not being agreed with by a sycophant.

I feel sorry for the Libras who feel they have to make themselves less (a sycophant who just smiles and agrees with everyone to get along) just to get on the good side of other people which, of course, would then make them two faced.

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posted November 27, 2013 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually like the argumentative and snarky libra...

I think oh so perfect and ever so lovely libra is annoying. -__-

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posted November 27, 2013 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I remember when I was younger (and much more snarky) I was called arrogant, argumentive, and the like. So I asked how to better communicate my thoughts. Online I even pointed out threads where I was called this. And I've certainly shown others how to word things differently so I know it can be done.

But what I learned was it wasn't HOW I was communicating, it was that I dared challenge their views and didn't do what they ordered me to do in the first place and THAT is what made me "arrogant" etc. Furthermore, they were calling me arrogant could dish it out and felt right for doing so but then were shocked & outraged when they got their own medicine served back to them (that is they were just as argumentive or even more so but say "I don't think so" and they get upset). Well if that's the case, then GOOD, may I always be so, I'd rather be thought of as arrogant than a doormat. Though of course I don't consider it arrogant just as I don't consider others arrogant for promoting a view contrary to mine or asserting something I don't agree with. It's not that we're arrogant it's that those calling us that are insecure and/or dogmatic who feel judged for not being agreed with by a sycophant.

I feel sorry for the Libras who feel they have to make themselves less (a sycophant who just smiles and agrees with everyone to get along) just to get on the good side of other people which, of course, would then make them two faced.


Wise words

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posted November 27, 2013 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Honestly very few people have access to a gemini's soul.

It does not matter if your a family either, they have to want to give you their soul. I'd imagine they have a very special connection with that person.. like a soul connection.



Oh so true. Stop writing down my thoughts, damn!

Must be my now progressed Sun, Mercury, Venus and Ascendant in Gemnini jiving with your natal Gem qualities.

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posted November 27, 2013 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
As always, every website goes on and on about how powerful and sexy and magnetic and irresistible Scorpio is. But in truth, and one of the reasons I never research things and instead observe them, this so wrong...Scorpios I know, in real life, as in real life Scorpios, tend to be pretty mellow. Most times, they're actually pretty depressive and frustrating to deal with! And overweight/prone to acne.

So what other harsh truths do you have for stereotypes!!!!

Scorpio Mars especially is frustrating to deal with. The only Scorpio Mars I actually liked that I know of is sand. Every other one has been so annoying and stupid, ugh!!



I always see the best side of Scorpio suns, same with Pisces. I hardly ever see the negative qualities. From what I see, they do have control of their will and are quite capable of running their own business or just about anything they put their minds to, they can accomplish, and this is the association with power, the power over oneself to achieve one's goals.

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posted November 28, 2013 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I remember when I was younger (and much more snarky) I was called arrogant, argumentive, and the like. So I asked how to better communicate my thoughts. Online I even pointed out threads where I was called this. And I've certainly shown others how to word things differently so I know it can be done.

But what I learned was it wasn't HOW I was communicating, it was that I dared challenge their views and didn't do what they ordered me to do in the first place and THAT is what made me "arrogant" etc. Furthermore, they were calling me arrogant could dish it out and felt right for doing so but then were shocked & outraged when they got their own medicine served back to them (that is they were just as argumentive or even more so but say "I don't think so" and they get upset). Well if that's the case, then GOOD, may I always be so, I'd rather be thought of as arrogant than a doormat. Though of course I don't consider it arrogant just as I don't consider others arrogant for promoting a view contrary to mine or asserting something I don't agree with. It's not that we're arrogant it's that those calling us that are insecure and/or dogmatic who feel judged for not being agreed with by a sycophant.

I feel sorry for the Libras who feel they have to make themselves less (a sycophant who just smiles and agrees with everyone to get along) just to get on the good side of other people which, of course, would then make them two faced.


Nothing against you but this is all just argumentative tone to me.

I doubt Libras realise how off-putting that can be.

i agree with earthypisces by the way.

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posted November 28, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes... the signs we consider weak and that we think weakens the planet energy are the strongest. Why? And when? Because they are dignified by outer planets like Saturn or Pluto.
Mars in Pisces for example. It is supposed to be the weakest sign for sex drive. Guess what: with a trine with Pluto in Scorpio, you can be the best and with a high sex drive. Woman or man, no matter. Never undestimate a trine with Pluto. Its a perfect: be careful what you wish for.

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