posted November 28, 2013 06:49 AM            

Wtf is going on with me? If I keep acting like this he will leave me I'm sure, but I cannot express my feelings and I'm very insecure about if I actually want to end it or not…
I just feel really sad and depressed and I don't feel like talking with him about it, I just wan't to be alone and solve it on my own, but I don't think he can understand that… is this just my natal chart, our synastry or some transits?

EDIT: I am the male outside(red) though I am technically a girl lol, just made an error there:P

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posted November 28, 2013 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It's because you're a beautiful libra and he's a mean Virgo. My ex was a Virgo and although we're still friends and talk here and there he was really mean to me. Maybe you're just done with him mentally but it hasn't come to you yet. Just my thought

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lol no I'm the virgo LOL but you're right anyways, I feel like I'm the cruel one, not him

posted November 28, 2013 07:19 AM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
I would have thought she's the Virgo with Venus in Scorpio which would explain a lot. Read up on ViS and you'll begin to understand why you're afraid of emotional attachment

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posted November 28, 2013 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
what is ViS and why does virgo sun -scorpio venus explain a lot?
I'm not afraid of emotional attachment I'm just afraid of opening up and trust him because he is a libra and he probably won't understand me anyways...

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ViS has trust issues in general and an underlying suspicion that they will be betrayed/abandoned which sometimes becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because they have various lessons to integrate back into their psyche.

Once insecurity hits, I'm not surprised you go cold because Virgo is very good at cutting things off emotionally though your Pisces Moon can help reduce that somewhat.

posted November 28, 2013 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I can vouch for the Virgo-go-cold-cutting-off stage albeit I only have a Virgo asc-badly aspected- and I have venus, Mars, Merc and asc in Virgo in my progressed chart

I can literally love someone one day and be stone cold, never to return the same, next day

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posted November 28, 2013 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
It not because I don't have feelings for him anymore, it's just that I don't know how to express myself and I'm confused about what I actually feel about this.. it has always been a problem for me to express what I feel (because I just don't know exactly)

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This is most likely the Moon trine Pluto aspect which forces you to come face to face with your feelings. Virgo likes to stay in their head and analyze everything, but Pluto/Moon aspects want to get beyond that, to feel without all the extra barriers in place. Venus Scorpio is introspective by nature and wants to solve things on their own.

posted November 28, 2013 10:24 AM            

Sounds like you're having an automatic defense mechanism reaction - shutting down, being confused, having doubts.

Typical signs of someone who has some unresolved issues when it comes to close relationships (tons of people are like that, no worries).

posted November 28, 2013 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Maybe because you have a fear of intimacy / commitment?

Sounds like you're having an automatic defense mechanism reaction - shutting down, being confused, having doubts.

Typical signs of someone who has some unresolved issues when it comes to close relationships (tons of people are like that, no worries).

Look into yourself.

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posted November 28, 2013 10:39 AM            

All I can say is that there's usually a root cause for all fears / anxieties.

Maybe you should do some digging in your own psyche to see what it is exactly that makes you react that way.

Fear of losing your indentity, fear of obligation, fear of being hurt, fear of hurting the other... stuff like that.

Most people have some anxiety related to intimacy, it's nothing new.

But if it prevents you from forming and maintaining satisfying bonds with other people, you probably need to work on yourself.
Therapy could be a good idea (haven't tried it yet but intend to, personally).

Fear is the direct antagonist of love, they can't co-exist together.
That's why when fear starts creeping up, it seems that your love vanishes.

posted November 28, 2013 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
It not because I don't have feelings for him anymore, it's just that I don't know how to express myself and I'm confused about what I actually feel about this.. it has always been a problem for me to express what I feel (because I just don't know exactly)

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I have an unaspected Virgo moon and I've experienced this before also! But only with people I genuinely loved after they have set aside all barriers and said I'm yours!
It's then that I go, wait.....even though I've known my feelings for you forever and dreamed of you feeling the same, waited for love patiently...now that I have it is really what I want? It seems different, less exciting now?
Do I really feel anything for you? Do I really want a relationship?
What really was happening is my Virgo moon was questioning, and analyzing the situation...but Virgo turns off emotion when it's trying to figure something out and problem solve, so we turn cold!
What you need to do is not let your mind analyze your heart...it's at the moments you feel nothing you must shut out the nothingness, stop thinking and focus all your mental attention towards your chest and feeling your heart, literally! Go find a quiet place, and force yourself to feel your emotions....literally focus all mental energy on feeling!
Then focus all your mental attention on what your hearts feelings are saying....then go and outloud express what you feel....and let your mind hear your heart!
We have to train the Virgo in us to feel, we have to teach it feelings are much more aware and intelligent than our minds alone!
Our heart is what is attached to the universe, love, our higher self and God....all through love, the mind has none of this alone, it's only a tool to help us open the door to life and help us understand life around us, it's not spiritual...it's only a cold machine when it's not used with our heart! Virgo doesn't innately understand this but it's a very intelligent energy and can be taught this!
Eventually you can get the cold of Virgo to go away by helping it see how emotions will bring intelligence when used correctly and teach Virgo to use your emotions in its logically decisions!

posted November 28, 2013 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
lol no I'm the virgo LOL but you're right anyways, I feel like I'm the cruel one, not him

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posted November 28, 2013 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Aweee I'm sorry lol. He was soooo mean to me and didn't even realize when he was. More than likely you can't help it, which is fine try learning how to put a handle on it

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posted November 28, 2013 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have an unaspected Virgo moon and I've experienced this before also! But only with people I genuinely loved after they have set aside all barriers and said I'm yours!
It's then that I go, wait.....even though I've known my feelings for you forever and dreamed of you feeling the same, waited for love patiently...now that I have it is really what I want? It seems different, less exciting now?
Do I really feel anything for you? Do I really want a relationship?
What really was happening is my Virgo moon was questioning, and analyzing the situation...but Virgo turns off emotion when it's trying to figure something out and problem solve, so we turn cold!
What you need to do is not let your mind analyze your heart...it's at the moments you feel nothing you must shut out the nothingness, stop thinking and focus all your mental attention towards your chest and feeling your heart, literally! Go find a quiet place, and force yourself to feel your emotions....literally focus all mental energy on feeling!
Then focus all your mental attention on what your hearts feelings are saying....then go and outloud express what you feel....and let your mind hear your heart!
We have to train the Virgo in us to feel, we have to teach it feelings are much more aware and intelligent than our minds alone!
Our heart is what is attached to the universe, love, our higher self and God....all through love, the mind has none of this alone, it's only a tool to help us open the door to life and help us understand life around us, it's not spiritual...it's only a cold machine when it's not used with our heart! Virgo doesn't innately understand this but it's a very intelligent energy and can be taught this!
Eventually you can get the cold of Virgo to go away by helping it see how emotions will bring intelligence when used correctly and teach Virgo to use your emotions in its logically decisions!

My advice is to go connect with your emotions and then start being as vocal as possible about it even if it feels unnatural at first....eventually it will feel good, safe and logical!

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posted November 28, 2013 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Sorry, but I don't have a magical solution for that.

All I can say is that there's usually a root cause for all fears / anxieties.

Maybe you should do some digging in your own psyche to see what it is exactly that makes you react that way.

Fear of losing your indentity, fear of obligation, fear of being hurt, fear of hurting the other... stuff like that.

Most people have some anxiety related to intimacy, it's nothing new.

But if it prevents you from forming and maintaining satisfying bonds with other people, you probably need to work on yourself.
Therapy could be a good idea (haven't tried it yet but intend to, personally).

Fear is the direct antagonist of love, they can't co-exist together.
That's why when fear starts creeping up, it seems that your love vanishes.

Just some random thoughts...

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posted November 28, 2013 12:39 PM            

((( hugs )))

Whatever you do, stay true to yourself.
And try not to create too much damage while being you, haha.

Some of his planets fall in your Water houses (4th & 12th) so he awakens some deeply ingrained psychological mechanisms in you.
When there's no one acting like a mirror to you, you can't see the deeper issues you have, that's why being single is not very anxiety-inducing and usually easier to deal with than being involved romantically with someone.
The moment they come into your life, they make you aware of some things within yourself that you wouldn't otherwise notice.
That's what relationships are all about - discovering Self through Other.

posted November 28, 2013 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Thank you that was very uplifting to hear! I will try that, actually I have already tried to do that for a while, so I will continue…sometimes I can have problems with knowing what I want though, so I just stay quiet so that I know I won't say something I don't intent to say:S It can be hard to say the right things, but maybe I shouldn't try to please everyone all the time

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Its not easy and its not quick....it will probably be something that will take years to truly naturally feel....but it gets easier with practice.
Your doing a good thing right now by questioning the cold, instead of acting on it...thats the beginning and it shows, just like you said, youve already been working on this!
Keep questioning the cold....dont question the warm just feel it and try to get the warm feelings to last longer by doing your best to keep the cold analyzer pushed away, try to stay human!! LOL

Be skeptical of the yourself when you start losing emotions, you know what you need, your an intelligent person, if there is no real, obvious reason for a change in your emotions and that cold feeling comes on...then you can know, thats the sign, your virgo is analyzing at that moment and its not allowing your genuine feelings to flow, what you feel at that moment is not truly how you feel!

Unfortunately that is just the nature of the virgo energy....but you can change it with time and effort!

Virgo is tough energy before you understand it, but once you integrate virgo energy with your emotions, you get the very best of both wolds....logically understanding your emotions.
That is when virgo becomes such a healing powerful energy, its the helper(ruling 6th house) of the zodiac because once it can feel emotions and still look at them logically, it has a huge understanding of the underlying patterns that make emotions irrational, but it can do that and see those patterns without becoming irrational itself.

Just try to stay warm and virgo can be such a powerful loving energy...if not, well everyone got sick of 'Spock' (Star Trek) and didnt want to listen eventually...if he had delivered his logic in a more human way...people would have been able to appreciate and digest his logic much easier!

posted November 28, 2013 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have an unaspected Virgo moon and I've experienced this before also! But only with people I genuinely loved after they have set aside all barriers and said I'm yours!
It's then that I go, wait.....even though I've known my feelings for you forever and dreamed of you feeling the same, waited for love patiently...now that I have it is really what I want? It seems different, less exciting now?
Do I really feel anything for you? Do I really want a relationship?
What really was happening is my Virgo moon was questioning, and analyzing the situation...but Virgo turns off emotion when it's trying to figure something out and problem solve, so we turn cold!
What you need to do is not let your mind analyze your heart...it's at the moments you feel nothing you must shut out the nothingness, stop thinking and focus all your mental attention towards your chest and feeling your heart, literally! Go find a quiet place, and force yourself to feel your emotions....literally focus all mental energy on feeling!
Then focus all your mental attention on what your hearts feelings are saying....then go and outloud express what you feel....and let your mind hear your heart!
We have to train the Virgo in us to feel, we have to teach it feelings are much more aware and intelligent than our minds alone!
Our heart is what is attached to the universe, love, our higher self and God....all through love, the mind has none of this alone, it's only a tool to help us open the door to life and help us understand life around us, it's not spiritual...it's only a cold machine when it's not used with our heart! Virgo doesn't innately understand this but it's a very intelligent energy and can be taught this!
Eventually you can get the cold of Virgo to go away by helping it see how emotions will bring intelligence when used correctly and teach Virgo to use your emotions in its logically decisions!

My advice is to go connect with your emotions and then start being as vocal as possible about it even if it feels unnatural at first....eventually it will feel good, safe and logical!

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Clap clap clap to you Gabby! You've "just" help me handle my venus in virgo. Valious insight as always

posted November 28, 2013 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by DialecticLady:
Clap clap clap to you Gabby! You've "just" help me handle my venus in virgo. Valious insight as always

Thanks!

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