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Topic: Paul Walker death
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Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 01, 2013 02:00 PM
quote: I imagine something heavy must have triggered the potential from the eclipses.
The Moon, perhaps. tMoon was 11 Scorpio at time of accident. The November 3, 2013 eclipse was at 11 degrees Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1369 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 01, 2013 02:05 PM
^^^ bingo!IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 01, 2013 02:10 PM
quote: Again, not knowing his exact time of birth, we don't really know in which houses these aspects fell in. So these are just speculations.
How about using the Solar houses? IP: Logged |
Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 01, 2013 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Perhaps I should change marriage to relationship aspect.I don't know if it's my brain drawing my attention to cases which confirm my theory, or whether I've stumbled onto something real. I too had near death experiences with Sun-Venus, and at the above mentioned pVenus changing signs. Tzar Nicholas II of Russia was murdered as his pVenus hit 0 degree. re: pVenus conjunct nSun @ 18 Gemini. For me this was around 1995 & 1996. The first incident ('95) took place in a water park. I fell off a ride & not knowing how to swim the lifeguards had to fish me out - I was certain it was the end. The second incident ('96) I was in the ocean, again zero swimming experience, when a current sucked me out. Kids younger than me were around and pride didn't allow me to yell for help. Don't know how I got out of that situation, but the instant I caught my footing I was outta there. In an obituary of a kid hit off his motorcycle by a driver who ran a red light, these aspects showed up. The victim had: pSun @ 4 Pisces conj nVenus @ 5 Pisces. pVenus @ 1 Aries, pMars @ 29 Pisces. The driver had pSun @ 16 Capricorn conj nMars @ 16 Capricorn. Speculation: Venus killed the Sun. In the Solar Cycle (the four seasons) in the Northern Hemisphere, when the Sun reaches the Libra/Venus equinox it is judged & executed. Pluto/Scorpio/Undertaker do not take lives, they take souls - or bury the dead. Velikovsky says; According to this guy the ancient skies looked different than they do today. Notably, Venus was absent. In a chain of events; Venus spun off of Jupiter, collided with Mars & knocked it out of its orbit. Then moved onto the earth if not hitting it and nearly drove humanity to extinction. All this before settling into its current place in the solar system.
Ohh..:/ that is so interesting but also from egotistical point of view awful because my pSun is moving to nVenus and my pVenus is going in near future change signs. Venus rules my 8th and 1st house... I remember when Whitney Houston died i watched few astrology videos about her chart. In one someone mention that next year her Venus would move(progression) to another sign. So maybe in ancient time they were right Venus is evil? Is it "devil", "satan"? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5292 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 01, 2013 02:22 PM
Oh yes, tMoon. The Killer Venus is a startling idea, I have to admit.
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Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 01, 2013 02:35 PM
Marilyn Monroe died when her pVenus was on her nSun...IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 01, 2013 03:00 PM
quote: Ohh..:/ that is so interesting but also from egotistical point of view awful because my pSun is moving to nVenus and my pVenus is going in near future change signs. Venus rules my 8th and 1st house...
Just be careful and stay away from risky activities. On the positive side, these aspects may also bring a partner into your life. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5292 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 01, 2013 03:18 PM
Nine, Hypothetically, would every tMoon in Scorpio, from November till April, be potentially risky? IP: Logged |
Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 416 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 01, 2013 03:20 PM
Nine, Thank you for your care:*IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 01, 2013 04:32 PM
Sorry about that, Venus. I ran out for a sec. quote: Hypothetically, would every tMoon in Scorpio, from November till April, be potentially risky?
I don't believe so. Susan Miller gives eclipses a six month range of influence. Personally I've noticed that eclipse energy is released at the nearest trigger point. Sometimes I've seen it come before the actual eclipse, but never more that thirty days. Now that we know the Moon is a trigger, we can approach those dates with some caution. We should also remember that the driver was a Scorpio. It's possible that tMoon in Scorpio had personal significance for both Paul and his friend. In my own life tMoon in Virgo is my personal trigger point - this is my Ascendant/Saturn/5HR/NN. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6650 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 01, 2013 08:38 PM
I don't mean to disrespect the dead. The lesson learned is not to take a corner with a speed limit of 25 mph (40 km/h) at over 100 mph (160 km/h), especially when attempting to drift. Keep the racing off the streets and on the track. No disrespect to Mr. Walker's fans but he was a Hollywood actor that glamorized street racing. His friend, Mr. Rodas, an entrepreneur, was behind the wheel and attempted the high speed left drift from Constellation Road to Hercules Street in Santa Clarita, CA. The car wildly oversteered when pushed beyond its limits sideways into a lamp post. The impact ruptured the gas tank, and notwithstanding the carbon fiber body, nothing can be done when fire and gasoline mix. I race Porsches as a hobby and have been behind the wheel of a Carrera GT a couple of times on the road and the track. At a minimum, respect the 612+ hp and that all cars are limited to the laws of physics. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1369 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 12:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: How about using the Solar houses?
I have not been using this technique. If you're familiar with it, what are your thoughts? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 02:27 AM
quote: I have not been using this technique. If you're familiar with it, what are your thoughts?
The Solar house technique was more revealing for Rodas. The Nov. 13th eclipse was in his first house, meaning he'll be personally affected. I've read when the first is affected so is the 7th, so a partner (marriage, enemy, business) may be affected as well. Because it was a Solar eclipse you would look to where Leo is posited. For Scorpio this would be the 10th house, Rodas' house of career, fame, public image, what he's known for. Added to this is the eclipse itself & Scorpio symbolism. Observation: Often I've observed when men collide and on ends up killing the other Sun-Mars is often at play. Usually Mars is the aggressor, with either Sun or Mars in a progressed state in one of the charts. This was an accident, and these guys were friends. Nonetheless, Sun-Mars is implicated. The aspect was between natal planets. However the November 3rd eclipse which was triggered by tMoon seemed to have ignited the aspect and brought it to life. Walker had nMars @ 8 Taurus. Rodas had nSun @ 7 Scorpio. Sun opposite Mars. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 5292 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 02, 2013 02:28 AM
Nine, Thanks for the reply! IP: Logged |
LakiSG03 Knowflake Posts: 88 From: United States Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 03:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: I did not find Mars-Uranus square in his Natal but he did have Transit PHOLUS square his Sun. PHOLUS is one of the best objects to describe accidental death. Neptune rules fire accidents. Paul has Neptune square PHOLUS exact in his chart as well as the deadly Pluto-Saturn square exact.[Uranus-Mars square are more involved in the charts of the actual vehicle drivers. Paul was a passenger here. The driver, hjis friend Roger Rodas has Uranus trine Mars near exact, but Mars and NESSUS are conjunct. Too much energy. And Tr Pluto was square Rodas Natal Pluto exact. Heavy Transformation Stress in his life. North Node Transit bang on his Sun, indicating a possible past life desire to have an "Exit Point" during heavy stress. He even has Uranus square Saturn in his Natal. ] Creepy Transits in the sky were Pluto conjunct KAALI exact, and in the Draconic Saturn of 30th November conjunct Tropical Uranus while square Pluto. This dynamic is part of Typhoon Haiyyan, and Paul was working for the victims of that killer typhoon.
Can you please tell me why the Pluto-Saturn square aspect is considered deadly? I'm really concerned about it. Both of my parents have this aspect so I want to know as much as I can IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4624 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 07:17 AM
<< Can you please tell me why the Pluto-Saturn square aspect is considered deadly? I'm really concerned about it. Both of my parents have this aspect so I want to know as much as I can >> Saturn represents our biggest Karmic Debts, that need to be paid in this incarnation. Pluto represents our Higher Self Transformation Requirements. A Square Aspects "Forces" Change through stressful events. Hence, this aspect when having a close orb, id very difficult for most of humanity as we as a species are conditioned to be resistant to change. Every refusal to change and transform leads to a harsher lesson as per the karmic debt. Paul Walker lived a great life for tackling this aspect. He excelled in acting, he genuinely helped people and established a charitable foundation. He is a genius in marine biology and helped out there as well by tagging Great White Sharks. I have no doubt that he has become an Angelic Being. His only flaw seems to have been of being too close to a friend [Rodas, a good human being in his own way] who was struggling with his own stressful transformation [proven by Tr Pluto square Pluto]. I sense a subtle link about these two from the very first TV Appearance made by Paul, the series "Highway to Heaven". Looks like both did all the good as per their Quota a bit too fast and earned their wings. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3063 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 02, 2013 07:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: << Can you please tell me why the Pluto-Saturn square aspect is considered deadly? I'm really concerned about it. Both of my parents have this aspect so I want to know as much as I can >> Saturn represents our biggest Karmic Debts, that need to be paid in this incarnation. Pluto represents our Higher Self Transformation Requirements. A Square Aspects "Forces" Change through stressful events. Hence, this aspect when having a close orb, id very difficult for most of humanity as we as a species are conditioned to be resistant to change. Every refusal to change and transform leads to a harsher lesson as per the karmic debt. Paul Walker lived a great life for tackling this aspect. He excelled in acting, he genuinely helped people and established a charitable foundation. He is a genius in marine biology and helped out there as well by tagging Great White Sharks. I have no doubt that he has become an Angelic Being. His only flaw seems to have been of being too close to a friend [Rodas, a good human being in his own way] who was struggling with his own stressful transformation [proven by Tr Pluto square Pluto]. I sense a subtle link about these two from the very first TV Appearance made by Paul, the series "Highway to Heaven". Looks like both did all the good as per their Quota a bit too fast and earned their wings.
This. No wonder why now the police and not only says that Paul shouldn't have been in the car in the first place. Since the firt time i saw him in FF (the first movie ofc) I felt the positive vibe coming from him. This man had no evil in his bones. A true angel I might say. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5914 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 01:04 PM
http://astrologyandlife.blogspot.com/2013/12/paul-walkers-tragic-death-and-chart.html IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6650 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 02, 2013 04:36 PM
That's an Audi R8 V10 in front of the Porsche Carrera GT. They were racing well in excess of 100 mph (160 km/h). He dug his own grave.Keep the darn racing off the streets and on the track!! Stupid is as stupid does. IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 87 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 02, 2013 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: That's an Audi R8 V10 in front of the Porsche Carrera GT. They were racing well in excess of 100 mph (160 km/h). He dug his own grave.Keep the darn racing off the streets and on the track!! Stupid is as stupid does.
The racing is a rumor and a witness at the scene said there was no racing....so who really knows what went down. But Paul Walker seemed like a good guy who actually worked in the field when it came to volunteering his time and helping others unlike some of these celebs who just stamps their name on stuff etc.
He seemed like a genuinely nice guy. My condolences go out to his family.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 1369 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 07:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: The Solar house technique was more revealing for Rodas. The Nov. 13th eclipse was in his first house, meaning he'll be personally affected. I've read when the first is affected so is the 7th, so a partner (marriage, enemy, business) may be affected as well. Because it was a Solar eclipse you would look to where Leo is posited. For Scorpio this would be the 10th house, Rodas' house of career, fame, public image, what he's known for. Added to this is the eclipse itself & Scorpio symbolism.Observation: Often I've observed when men collide and on ends up killing the other Sun-Mars is often at play. Usually Mars is the aggressor, with either Sun or Mars in a progressed state in one of the charts. This was an accident, and these guys were friends. Nonetheless, Sun-Mars is implicated. The aspect was between natal planets. However the November 3rd eclipse which was triggered by tMoon seemed to have ignited the aspect and brought it to life. Walker had nMars @ 8 Taurus. Rodas had nSun @ 7 Scorpio. Sun opposite Mars.
Fascinating! Thank you! Regarding the sun/mars aspect, in this particular event, the two men were together in the same car. Does it still apply? I would think it more suitable for men in opposing cars... I also find it weird that Rodas had sun conjunct the new moon eclipse AND the North Node. Usually the NN doesn't signify death or loss, unless there are adverse aspects. I don't have his entire chart, but would love to see what natal aspects he has to his sun which affected the outcome of the new moon for him. --------------- http://www.lightofthestars.com Every Chart has a Gift IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 1681 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted December 02, 2013 09:21 PM
quote: Regarding the sun/mars aspect, in this particular event, the two men were together in the same car. Does it still apply? I would think it more suitable for men in opposing cars...
I think it still applies. A Sun-Mars progression shows a period of high energy where an individual may feel invincible and thus take risky risks (lol). [touch wood I have this coming up - pMars 12 Gemini, nSun 18 Gemini]. In the present case it could be read that separately they may be more cautious, but put together they spur each other on to risky, and riskier stunts. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6560 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted December 02, 2013 09:23 PM
From what I've heard on the news.. The police are only looking into if racing was involved, I'm guessing they will check near by street cameras and business security cameras.. When I celebrity dies, every ave of an investigation is covered... It's also been report that the car malfunctioned, as there was fluid leaking from the car prior to the accident, but again that has not been confirmed... The driver had professional race driving skills, he's trained on how to recover from loosing control, and how to handle a car at high speeds.. Sadly he was driving way to fast, probably being showy.. It was report that Paul last words were I'll be back in 5 mins So sad... Rip... To both men. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 1206 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2014 05:20 AM
Amazing analysis everyone! All of this and the positions of that day saw Sun at 8 Sag and Uranus at 8 Aries...with Pluto ofcourse very close to aspecting the eclipse from 10 Cap. Also Osiris at 11 Pisces trined the eclipse and tr Moon, which is significant because Walker has Sun conjunct Osiris natally...Saturn also opposed the asc (time of crash) and Juno squared this. Amazing posts. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6650 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 13, 2014 11:40 AM
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