posted December 02, 2013 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
is your 7th house sagittarius too? If yes, it's jupiter. If no, check the 7th house ruler.

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posted December 02, 2013 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I wouldn't say Sagittarius dsc are for casual dating rather a bit more of the jovial nature in dating. As consider the location of the ruler of your dsc, I believe yours is Jupiter in the 12th which can cause some relationship issues.

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posted December 02, 2013 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Tell me about it.

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posted December 02, 2013 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
when people have planets in this house their identity is percepted through a relationship. They have no free will. Their urge to be with someone is greater. They simply feel incomplete. People with no planets in 7th house simply don't feel that need. They can be in a relationship if they want to but there is no urge. They already have an identity. (Planets in 1st house)

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Hi Rosalind,

posted December 02, 2013 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
.....?

O_O

Right.

I don't think a sense of identity gets much stronger than mine and I have basically no desire for a relationship - although I love many men and women. I just don't feel like I care so much about romance, in general - whatever happens, happens.
Dating seems meh to me.

My Sun's dispositor - is Mars conj Neptune in the 7th - and my Moon is also in the 7th. All in Capricorn

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posted December 03, 2013 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
It makes one unable to form a typical picture of how a relationship should be. Because of the relationship between the 7th and 12th house you can end up idealizing how you think relationships should be instead of what they really are. Marriage can become even more of a obstacle with this placement.

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posted December 03, 2013 04:03 AM            

I don't think the state of the 7th house alone necessarily tells you much. A packed 7th house can mean a lot of your soul's purpose has to do with relationships, whether personal or in business (7th can refer to either kind), imho. An empty 7th house might mean that marriage or business partnerships might not be the driving force in your life but you can certainly have a good one. Look at the ruler of the 7th and where it is.

posted December 03, 2013 04:29 AM            

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Originally posted by CancerGirl:
Wouldn't the natal Venus position, and aspects to it, have a lot to do with feeling the need (or not) for a relationship? Women I have known who have Venus square Mars seem to have a strong compulsion toward dating, relationships and always having *someone*. I think it's the hard aspects that "push" one toward that.

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Good point about Venus and Venus / Mars aspecting. I have the sextile, I feel like that. Not boy crazy but a need to have somebody a lot.

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I have an empty 7th house and can take or leave the personal relationship thing. The ruler of that house is in my 2nd house, in Virgo. Wondered about that...so is that supposed to mean I'm only attracted to people with money (2nd house) or similar value system (also 2nd house) and who works hard (Virgo)? Hm...[/B]

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posted December 03, 2013 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Do you date a lot or find it hard to meet people?

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I think planets in the 7th house only signify what type of characters you attract and how you'll act when in a relationship.

So if you have the Sun in 7th house; you attract Leonine or Sun dominant people to you.

Having nothing in the 7th house doesn't always mean something bad, just your desire for a relationship is either non-existent or rather strong. This also puts more focus on the DSC ruler, the sign, location and aspects to this ruler.

The strongest of the 3 here is the house position, then aspects (if any very close) then the sign. If the 7th house ruler is in an 'unlucky' house (6th or 12th) then it's either we show love through other methods (like work) or it's hidden.

Honestly, I think we would have to work harder to make more of an impression to meet people and become likeable etc and go from there!

(Sorry if I repeated anything anyone has said)

posted December 03, 2013 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Originally I said Jupiter was in my 12th, but if I use Whole Signs it falls in my 1st. How does that change the meaning (Sag is my DSC ruler)?

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Because Jupiter in your 12th isn't a reoccurring pattern in the different house systems, then it's likely to take on both the roles of being in the 12th house and 1st house.

Is Jupiter closer to the 12th house cusp, or the Ascendant? I typically find whole signs show where the planet really lies in the chart.

If the ruler of the 7th house is in 12th house, you are more likely to pursue 'secret relationships'. But seeing as the whole signs house system places Jupiter in the 1st house, it's more like you have the ruler of the 7th in 1st house.

Here's a description of the ruler of the 7th house in 1st:

"makes one prone to much moving about and could even result in the proverbial “a rolling stone gathers no moss”."

posted December 03, 2013 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by CancerGirl:
Wouldn't the natal Venus position, and aspects to it, have a lot to do with feeling the need (or not) for a relationship? Women I have known who have Venus square Mars seem to have a strong compulsion toward dating, relationships and always having *someone*. I think it's the hard aspects that "push" one toward that.

I don't think the state of the 7th house alone necessarily tells you much. A packed 7th house can mean a lot of your soul's purpose has to do with relationships, whether personal or in business (7th can refer to either kind), imho. An empty 7th house might mean that marriage or business partnerships might not be the driving force in your life but you can certainly have a good one. Look at the ruler of the 7th and where it is.

I have an empty 7th house and can take or leave the personal relationship thing. The ruler of that house is in my 2nd house, in Virgo. Wondered about that...so is that supposed to mean I'm only attracted to people with money (2nd house) or similar value system (also 2nd house) and who works hard (Virgo)? Hm...

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Ruler of the 7th House in the 2nd House

posted December 03, 2013 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by CancerGirl:
Wouldn't the natal Venus position, and aspects to it, have a lot to do with feeling the need (or not) for a relationship? Women I have known who have Venus square Mars seem to have a strong compulsion toward dating, relationships and always having *someone*. I think it's the hard aspects that "push" one toward that.

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posted December 03, 2013 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:

The strongest of the 3 here is the house position, then aspects (if any very close) then the sign. If the 7th house ruler is in an 'unlucky' house (6th or 12th) then it's either we show love through other methods (like work) or it's hidden.

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posted December 03, 2013 03:22 PM            

I have a long history of hanging onto some very toxic relationships long after it would have been in everyone's better interest if the relationship would have ended. And I HAVE to be the one to break things off, or my Venus Aries won't let go until the other person gives in. Nice, eh?

I think my Aries Venus opposite Libra Pluto is probably responsible for this, though.

I was not interested in marriage or traditional relationships until later in life, and that was just kind of a serendipitous thing, unexpected.

But codependent...oh yeah. It's gotten better, but my husband and I both tend to revolve our lives around each other and our family, so I suppose we're pretty dependent on each other emotionally. But then his NN is conjunct my DC, so...

So I'm not sure about my empty 7th (and even the asteroids and sign placement would indicate a much more independent approach to relationships).

I've read that there's a correlation between intercepted signs/houses (my 2nd and 8th) and the signs preceding them, so maybe that has something to do with it?

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Oh. Erm...I guess the original question was about whether it's easy to date or not.
I've always been in some type of relationship, or have always been at least dating someone. So...not difficult for me to find people, I guess.

And that was a very embarrassing admission I just typed out. But I've had kind of a hard road with relationships until I met my husband, and while it's a very loving relationship, we still have issues to work through like anyone else. Just not nearly as horrid as the "issues" I dealt with in other relationships.

posted December 03, 2013 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by DialecticLady:
And what about when the 7th ruler is in 7th house? It's a Leo sun that make wide aspects with the other planets and and is called singleton because of that wide aspects? I don't think it is, I really feel at least the square with saturn (7º)and opposition with my moon (9º), but who knows? Maybe I don't feel the urge to be in a relationship because I can feel already complete someway?

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Aspects from the Luminaries (The Sun and Moon) typically have wider orbs (up to 9 degrees) to the other planets, than aspects between the other personal planets/outer planets.

Well, the aspects may play apart, but if you feel complete as you are, then that's fine!

Here's a short description of the ruler of the 7th in 7th:
"While the ruler of the 7th in the 5th suggests being "in love with love", this position suggests being in love with the relationship itself. You depend a great deal on a partnership, but you must be careful not to be so focused on "the relationship" that you lose sight of the people in it! You tend to form close partnerships quite easily, perhaps feeling that life just wouldn't be "right" without a close companion."

Seeing as the Sun is your 7th house ruler, hard aspects to the Moon & Saturn result in restrictions (Saturn) and having to different decisions about your emotions (Moon). But as you say, you may just prefer to avoid everything altogether.

posted December 03, 2013 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:
Aspects from the Luminaries (The Sun and Moon) typically have wider orbs (up to 9 degrees) to the other planets, than aspects between the other personal planets/outer planets.

Well, the aspects may play apart, but if you feel complete as you are, then that's fine!

Here's a short description of the ruler of the 7th in 7th:
"While the ruler of the 7th in the 5th suggests being "in love with love", this position suggests being in love with the relationship itself. You depend a great deal on a partnership, but you must be careful not to be so focused on "the relationship" that you lose sight of the people in it! You tend to form close partnerships quite easily, perhaps feeling that life just wouldn't be "right" without a close companion."

Seeing as the Sun is your 7th house ruler, hard aspects to the Moon & Saturn result in restrictions (Saturn) and having to different decisions about your emotions (Moon). But as you say, you may just prefer to avoid everything altogether.

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posted December 04, 2013 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by DialecticLady:
Thanks for answer Sven! I have a plenty of friends and I love them very much but I'm used to avoid love relationships because I focus in my career (saturn in 10th wins, lol)but I know that I must balance this and someday get a serious love relationship

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No problem for answer

posted January 10, 2014 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
ooo Sag DC. You'll be more drawn to foreigners.

Where does your Jupiter point to? That points to the place you'll find love.

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posted January 10, 2014 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No. If the axis 1-7 is empty there are no karmic lessons or focus regarding the relationship you have with YOU (1st) and OTHERS (7th). You are complete.

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posted January 10, 2014 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Kibriana:
I'm really intrigued by your answer, and , if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you another question. My 7th house is as empty as it gets, it's in Sag. Jupiter is in the 1st, in Cancer. However, I also have a 12th house Venus in Taurus, square Saturn in the 4th and opposition Uranus in the 6th. Squared planets in fixed signs (Taurus and Leo in my case) indicate a pattern that repeats itself through a couple of lifetimes. And that's entirely true, I've been alone for lifetimes (went to convent in one lifetime, was a single woman in another, am a single woman now). So, how can I be complete if that pattern keeps repeating itself and if I have a 12th house fixed Venus squares?

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Maybe it's Uranus???

posted January 10, 2014 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:
Maybe it's Uranus???

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