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Topic: How do you personally get along with people who have planets in your 12th house?
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gemstone
Newflake Posts: 19
From: mercury
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 13, 2013 02:47 PM
  
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I call their planets falling into my 12th as "soul rape" I don't like anyone's planets being there, the planet person usually ends up ripping me apart inside and it's hard to heal. .
'Soul rape', yep that describes 12H synastry perfectly to me  It sucks how it's always worse for the house person.
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Violets
Knowflake Posts: 1425
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Registered: Apr 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 04:12 PM
I have come to the conclusion that it depends entirely on how that person is using their energy in general. If they're just a sucky person, it's sh*t. If they're really awesome, and at least trying within reason to be a decent human being, no problem. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7637
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 04:19 PM
Honestly I think it depends on the natal chart..So planets in the 12th house don't bother me because I don't have misunderstandings with anyone because I clear them up.
A lot of times I find people are too afraid to reach out to others and want instant connection or gratification they don't take the time out to try and understand why someone is behaving the way they do.
If you like someone and there's confusion, it's probably coming from both sides too, so you should probably use some introspection in these situations. 12th house just makes you word harder.. and people are lazy as hell. 
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IndigoDirae
Knowflake Posts: 1361
From: Venice, California, US
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 04:27 PM
I'm voting 'it depends on the natal, too, as well as synastry. In general, though, I've noted some clear themes. Ambivalence, like I said. His VENUS in my 12H, my MARS in his. That's been interesting. It's a lot of confusion, with a very deep soul connexion underneath it all. There are moments I become infuriated and tempted to disappear. But, like the drop of a hat, ALL of the intense love, passion, and companionship comes flooding back. It's more akin soul whiplash - to be honest. Having a lot of 5H, 8H ties, involvement with the angles, and intense synastry (PLUTO, MARS, SATURN) can be very binding. You just sort of resolve to wander through the fog. There's a sense it's worth it. His VENUS (and KARMA) also conjoins my NNODE. So, who knows? Sometimes, were it not for his VENUS there, my NNODE would be rather lonely when it's scheming of big, dramatic (LEO) things.
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Odette
Knowflake Posts: 3058
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posted December 13, 2013 04:38 PM
I get along great with Geminis. I don't feel like they intrude. It's one of my favourite signs! This applies to all Gemini planets - Sun, Moon, Merc, Venus and Mars. I never usually have issues with them.
& I don't remember meeting anyone with a late-Taurus placement in my 12th *shrug*.IP: Logged |
summerlite
Knowflake Posts: 278
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Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 13, 2013 04:53 PM
I don't know anyone who has planets in my 12th house.What happens if someone's Saturn's in your 12th house? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7637
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I get along great with Geminis. I don't feel like they intrude. It's one of my favourite signs! This applies to all Gemini planets - Sun, Moon, Merc, Venus and Mars. I never usually have issues with them.
& I don't remember meeting anyone with a late-Taurus placement in my 12th *shrug*.
cuz mercury is in pisces, see the connection.
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Violets
Knowflake Posts: 1425
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posted December 13, 2013 05:22 PM
Eh...I do have a couple of people with planets in my 12th that I can see right through (because their negative behavior is exactly the same negative behavior I am trying to get rid of in my own personality), and they're simply not pleasant people. It's energy that I am trying to let go of in my own behavior, so I can see it pretty plainly in theirs.Other people with planets in my 12th seem to embody what I am working towards with my spirituality and life path. I admire them, can see their flaws, but still hold them in high regard. They stimulate me to be a better person. The opposite can be said for the other people. When I try to clear up misunderstandings with them they freak out like little f**king kids. And it's weird, because I have some pretty harsh aspects with all of these people--Mars opposite Mars, hard Mercury/Mars/Pluto aspects, whatever.
So...I dunno. I think it's the energy the person is using with the planet. ...And maybe the energy the 12th house person uses with their house? I have an empty 12th house, so not sure what I would be doing with it...? IP: Logged |
Violets
Knowflake Posts: 1425
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posted December 13, 2013 05:40 PM
^ The reason I say some of that is because I was sitting here thinking "Oh, it must be because they have Mars in my 12th", etc. but noticed that other people in my life also have Mars (or whatever) in my 12th, with plenty of similar hard or smooth aspects in our charts, and I absolutely adore them. Maybe I'm still trying to figure that one out. But I'm seeing people with the same planets, similar aspects to my natal, with completely different affects on me. I have to think that one type is using their planet energy positively, and the other is not. IP: Logged |
Odette
Knowflake Posts: 3058
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posted December 13, 2013 05:57 PM
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cuz mercury is in pisces, see the connection.
That's interesting!  Very roundabout connection though lol IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
Knowflake Posts: 1361
From: Venice, California, US
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 13, 2013 05:57 PM
Oh, it's OBVIOUSLY karmic / soul-based. No question. I'm helping him reintegrate his more masculine features and qualities (MARS) while he's helping to awaken my feminine side (VENUS) so that I can finally integrate that. There's a lot of this going on in the synastry. VENUS is contraparallel MARS, too. EROS and PSYCHE parallel. His MARS conjunct my SUN. My MOON square his VENUS. Stuff like that. So, the 12H shows me what 'demons are being exorcised'. Or maybe just exercised. 
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 7637
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 13, 2013 06:19 PM
yeah but with mercury in pisces you probably don't have trouble communicating through foggy 12th house misunderstandingsIP: Logged |
gemstone
Newflake Posts: 19
From: mercury
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 14, 2013 07:11 PM
@IndigoDirae, that's interesting; you have almost identically placed synastry to myself and the guy who inspired me to post this question =) Do you ever feel like there's a lot of secrecy (like secret feelings) when venus is involved within 12H synastry? (Especially as the house person, which I also am) IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
Knowflake Posts: 1133
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posted December 14, 2013 10:33 PM
I have it with someone, and we get along soo intuitively that our synastry could best be described as intensely transformational. His venus is conjunct my sun and mercury which are in my 12th house, and his mars is conjunct my pluto in scorpio which is in my 8th house. holy **** is the phrase "soul rape" accurate, even though i really don't like using the word rape in that kind of context.IP: Logged |
beloved
Knowflake Posts: 94
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Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 08:47 PM
I used to hang out with a Leo with Moon in Gemini. He was very arrogant but we were very attracted to each other's personalities (we met online while playing a game.) A lot of my planets fell into his 12th house and he used to tell me that I made him think of things he didn't want to think about, that I gave him feelings he couldn't explain like no one else did and that I made him feel very vulnerable. We ended up parting ways one night when I criticized him a bit too much because of how he had been treating me near the end and he cut off the friendship very rudely. We didn't speak for a year and a half. Then a few days ago, I was thinking of him and sent him a message that I hoped he was doing well and that I hated for our friendship to have ended so badly. Well you would've thought he won the lottery, he was so ecstatic to hear from me and told me that he had felt horrible about what he did to me and that he fled because he felt too vulnerable with me and couldn't take it. Still says I give him feelings he can't explain.... So apparently, they really feel it! lol Beloved ------------------
Sun in Virgo
ASC in Capricorn
Moon in Taurus
Stellium in the 8th house! :) IP: Logged |
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