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gemstone
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posted December 05, 2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gemstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who have their sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars etc (one planet or several) falling in your 12th house - do you get along with them, or do you feel like your relationship/friendship is too intense, or maybe has some kind of otherworldly energy? Do you feel like your privacy is being intruded upon, or that the planet person can see through you? Just curious

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sc0rpioRising
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posted December 05, 2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gemstone:
People who have their sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars etc (one planet or several) falling in your 12th house - do you get along with them, or do you feel like your relationship/friendship is too intense, or maybe has some kind of otherworldly energy? Do you feel like your privacy is being intruded upon, or that the planet person can see through you? Just curious

Yes to everything you mentioned, I have Scorpio in the 12th house, I have a 12th house rising, and anyone who has their sun mercury pluto venus moon in my 12th house, I feel like they know me inside out, and its scary cos it makes me feel so vulnerable, so insecure, and I want to run away from these people,

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CancerGirl
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posted December 05, 2013 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I have Cancer in the 12th and people with planets here I seem to get closer to. My dad was another Cancer with Leo rising (though his natal Sun was in the 11th) and we were a lot alike. My mom's ascendant was Cancer in my 12th and we were close too, perhaps an unusually close family.

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SilverFeather
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posted December 05, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex's Venus and Mercury falls in my 12th House in Leo/Virgo conjuncting my Chiron.

He always managed to stir me up emotionally in a way no one ever did before. I loved him then I hated him then I loved him again. Our relationship was so bizarre like some sort of haze. There was a serious lack of boundaries, we seemed unable to truly see each other through all that fog.

I can't even define him now. I don't know what to call him , a friend, a lover, a companion. Nothing seems to apply to him exactly.

We still meet up, we still talk but we are lovers no more but could we really be called friends when we still touch and make out ???

Man, I hate when lovers put planets in my Twelfth.

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Kerosene
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posted December 05, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 05, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG it's like. It just depends on the planets. When people share stellium synastries or composites involving twelve, it can be really super difficult. They just grate on each others nerves and it's very complex. It's because the twelfth house contains way too much psychology. With one or two planets, or just sun or moon with one other, it can be dealt with.

When there are many planets, it's very difficult to have a successful relationship with that person, living-in-the-same-house kind of relationship. Like if it is your family member or partner it's not going to be easy.
I have never heard of a partner having a 12th house stellium with their S.O. I wonder if it's because they generally don't have great chemistry or find each other attractive so they never really get that close in the first place?
When it's relatives, you can't do much about it because it's more circumstance.


Isolated planets here in there, or just the sun and moon can be rewarding because people feel so in sync and get along, but they might not last or have a lot of cohesion. They could be fleeting and there could be dubious feelings accompanying the warm fuzzy ones that kinda undermine the entire process.

I do agree Venus in twelfth house synastry might not be too bad.

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend has his Leo Mars in my 12th House

"Mars in the 12th house

The Mars person reduces the house person’s inhibitions, making it easy for the house person to open up. In fact, the house person may feel pressured to reveal their secrets to the Mars person."

This is sooo true. I'm very secretive/mysterious (Sun/Venus in 12th House + other aspects). I have a lot of personal secrets, as well as other peoples. With my boyfriend, I feel like I want to share everything. I won't give out all my secrets, but let's say, I've already shared a lot.

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Gabby
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posted December 05, 2013 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only had 2 ppl with this, my virgo moon is in my 12th....one had his Sun there and I didn't like the way he presumed to know everything about me, it was in a very critical way...well it is virgo what do you expect?

The other had his Pluto there and I adored him and the way he handled me, it was like he was in my head...he didn't judge it was more like he was one with me. We seemed to connect very deeply, like we already knew everything about each other or could read it easily and and empathize to understand each other! This conjunction was in his 8th house so the depth was felt both ways....it was intense for both of us! Being best friends was easy!

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posted December 05, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problems yet!

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
No problems yet!

great!! me neither perhaps, we can deal with 12th house better, than most people.

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posted December 05, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
great!! me neither perhaps, we can deal with 12th house better, than most people.

If your boyfriends mars falls into your 12th. That means my Sun does, and your Asc falls into mine.. .most likely.
Funny coincidence.

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
If your boyfriends mars falls into your 12th. That means my Sun does, and your Asc falls into mine.. .most likely.
Funny coincidence.

Hmmm interesting! I guess, we'd have no problems either

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posted December 05, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CancerGirl:
Hi, I have Cancer in the 12th and people with planets here I seem to get closer to. My dad was another Cancer with Leo rising (though his natal Sun was in the 11th) and we were a lot alike. My mom's ascendant was Cancer in my 12th and we were close too, perhaps an unusually close family.

your dad is my astro twin

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NeptunianSag
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posted December 05, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I call their planets falling into my 12th as "soul rape" I don't like anyone's planets being there, the planet person usually ends up ripping me apart inside and it's hard to heal. .

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 05, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I call their planets falling into my 12th as "soul rape" I don't like anyone's planets being there, the planet person usually ends up ripping me apart inside and it's hard to heal. .

I do know that feeling but I only have it with people who have several planets in my twelfth, not just one or two. It's not easy.

With just one or two, the relationships are nice but kinda superficial and short.

My take on it is, if you have several planets in the twelfth house of another family member with several planets in their twelfth and they overlap, it's really just two people who would never like each other irl if they just happened to meet and they would most likely meet once, decide they don't like each other and never meet again. When they are in the same family, it's very difficult to just leave and not be with them if you don't like them. It seems like heavy twelfth house synastry is tougher if it's relatives you are stuck with.

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dadoo
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posted December 05, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most of the time I don't even get to know them, I don't feel any desire to get close to them, it's like I never met them at all, and I think that's the way both sides want it.
But for some reason, two of them are very dear to my heart.
(Edit: I'm referring to people having the Sun and/or Mercury in my twelfth house).

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Violets
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posted December 05, 2013 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did know a guy once who had a Leo stellium in my 12th, and we absolutely couldn't stand each other. At all.
Unfortunately, we had to work together and my best friend at that time started dating him seriously, so we were kind of forced to put up with each other. Zero attraction whatsoever.

BUT...again, we had Mercury opposite Mercury, so I have to add that to the equation. Otherwise, his Sun was trine my Venus, and probably some other pleasant aspects in there.
His Pluto was also square my Saturn and Venus, so there's that too.

I really can't decide if I have good/bad relationships based on someone's planets being in my 12th, or if we just have some really negative aspects in our synastry that causes it.
Another good friend I have is a Cancer, and her Sun and Mercury are in my 12th.
But again, we have hard Mars and Mercury aspects that cause us to get on each other's nerves (although we never say so outright).

Meh. I can't tell.

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12muddy
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posted December 05, 2013 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, in my experience, not really different than other relationship/friendship/interactions..etc..

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Violets
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posted December 05, 2013 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Hmm, in my experience, not really different than other relationship/friendship/interactions..etc..

Yeah, I've been thinking on this for a while, and I tend to agree with you.

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Kerosene
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posted December 05, 2013 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Hmm, in my experience, not really different than other relationship/friendship/interactions..etc..

Same here.

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Bubble
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posted December 07, 2013 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubble     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 12th house is in Gemini. I get along really well with Gemini Sun Signs.

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HPDBlue
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posted December 08, 2013 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HPDBlue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Sag Neptune falls in My 12 house (scorp) Uranus .
sigh

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IndigoDirae
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posted December 08, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ambivalence, I'd say, is the key word here.

Everything depends upon the natal placement of those points in a 12H overlay. I look at 12Rs, too. In other words, it's extremely variable; can be good, AND bad, incredible, and terrible. The 12H is quite the funhouse / hellscape.

There can be an intensity which is revealed by strong aspects. At times, the feeling can be very soft and soulful. Typically, it's both - and not consistently so.

Deep love followed by intense fear, then an even deeper love, followed by mistrust, or a fear of betrayal - and so on.

Doubly so if there are ties to 8H/8R.

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LovelyKitty
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posted December 13, 2013 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's depend on individual.
I am a late Virgo Ac . There's no planet in my 12th (except Jupiter conjunct myAC ,3°) . My closed friend is Stellium Virgo . She understand me and know me without a question . With her , I muss not explain myself , it's to easy for her to know the meaning of my action. I think it's nice to have a virgo relationship ..either a normal friendship or male-female relationship.

I've read the 12th House synastry before , it could only go just 2 ways .... You 're diffused with it or you just scared and running away . The old book said only the downside of it but from many forums ,there're real people who satisfied with this too and end-up to be good friends, marriage .

I think if anyone's planet land into your 12th H . It'd be carefully that those planets shouldn't make any aspect to the Neptune of both sides because you don't want to drive in the fog and wear a sun-glasses in the same time.!

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LovelyKitty
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posted December 13, 2013 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's depend on individual.
I am a late Virgo Ac . There's no planet in my 12th (except Jupiter conjunct myAC ,3°) . My closed friend is Stellium Virgo . She understand me and know me without a question . With her , I muss not explain myself , it's to easy for her to know the meaning of my action. I think it's nice to have a virgo relationship ..either a normal friendship or male-female relationship.

I've read the 12th House synastry before , it could only go just 2 ways .... You 're diffused with it or you just scared and running away . The old book said only the downside of it but from many forums ,there're real people who satisfied with this too and end-up to be good friends, marriage .

I think if anyone's planet land into your 12th H . It'd be carefully that those planets shouldn't make any aspect to the Neptune of both sides because you don't want to drive in the fog and wear a sun-glasses in the same time.!

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