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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, i need someone to talk to. Today i'm not feeling very well, i feel depressed. I think everybody gets the wrong impression of me, or they see me in a way that i'm not, like they start to imagine whatever they want about me and see me in wrong ways sorry i'm feeling very bad, i don't know how to stop this, i'm sure is because a very tight sun opposition neptune in my chart, neptune aspects the ascendant as well. This has been happening all my life and i try to handle it but today i can't anymore, i'm tired of this, the opposition is something supposedly you have to transform it or what is it? Am i who i think i am or am i who others think i am??I understand the basics of this aspect but live with it it's like people are opposed to me, please do you think aspects neptune/sun give this feeling to the others? Like they make an idea of you or they are not sure about who you are or like everyone is against you. I need someone, please.

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NeptunianSag
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posted December 05, 2013 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry *hugs* I have Neptune squaring my asc and mc, I feel like people do not like me, even as a libra asc. I myself struggle to overcome this, especially dealing with negative people, I try and be around positive people. It's really bad sometimes and causes me depression because it feels like the weight of the world.

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptunianSag, thank you for your answer. I feel very bad because of this, it's hurting me a lot i try to be nice to everyone and try to make everyone feel well, but i am that way!!!! And a lot of times i feel the same, that people don't like me or there is something wrong with me that others see and i'm not concious about. It's like the people are opposed to me, to who i am.
I read somewhere that with this aspects you embody the dreams or nightmares of others, and they imagine on you, like if people put they own thoughts on you and see you the way they want. I know this can happen to a lot of people who doesn't have this aspect. But i'm sure this happens to me because of this, sometimes i don't see myself clearly, and i try to discover who i am, but i feel like people see me blurred and not clearly all the time and ifeel like people are fake to me like they say hello but inside they are thinking bad things about me i don't like confrontations i only want to be myself and be accepted but i'm starting to think this is impossible

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DeepFreeze
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posted December 05, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a hard Neptune aspect in my own chart that I've focused hard on stepping back, and spotting the truth. Along with spotting when Neptune is messing with me.

Be sure that YOU are not in fact that is seeing others wrong, in how they see you. They may in fact see you, for who you truly are, but you don't. You may have the wrong idea of who you are (Sun, your core... your ego).
I'm not saying definitively that this is the case. I'm just saying don't dismiss it.
Investigate it, take your time, and find the truth. Is it really them? Or is it you?

In my case... it's always me. It's always in my own head.

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Canadiangirl
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posted December 05, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suffer from this too. It definitely feels like people in real life have the wrong impression of me. I know how hard it is to deal with this but don't shut yourself off from people because it will only make you feel worse. As tough as it seems, keep interacting with others and just be yourself. I have neptune opposite my ascendant. :P

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NeptunianSag
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posted December 05, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
NeptunianSag, thank you for your answer. I feel very bad because of this, it's hurting me a lot i try to be nice to everyone and try to make everyone feel well, but i am that way!!!! And a lot of times i feel the same, that people don't like me or there is something wrong with me that others see and i'm not concious about. It's like the people are opposed to me, to who i am.
I read somewhere that with this aspects you embody the dreams or nightmares of others, and they imagine on you, like if people put they own thoughts on you and see you the way they want. I know this can happen to a lot of people who doesn't have this aspect. But i'm sure this happens to me because of this, sometimes i don't see myself clearly, and i try to discover who i am, but i feel like people see me blurred and not clearly all the time and ifeel like people are fake to me like they say hello but inside they are thinking bad things about me i don't like confrontations i only want to be myself and be accepted but i'm starting to think this is impossible

The saying hello but underneath they are thinking bad is so true for me, and same, I try and be myself but it's like I'm doing something that others do not like. It's like I'm in a bubble, but I also have pisces Lilith so bad vibes are x10 worse. You are not alone with this, I try and tap into my creative side as an outlet for this energy instead of worrying about others.

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NeptunianSag
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posted December 05, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
NeptunianSag, thank you for your answer. I feel very bad because of this, it's hurting me a lot i try to be nice to everyone and try to make everyone feel well, but i am that way!!!! And a lot of times i feel the same, that people don't like me or there is something wrong with me that others see and i'm not concious about. It's like the people are opposed to me, to who i am.
I read somewhere that with this aspects you embody the dreams or nightmares of others, and they imagine on you, like if people put they own thoughts on you and see you the way they want. I know this can happen to a lot of people who doesn't have this aspect. But i'm sure this happens to me because of this, sometimes i don't see myself clearly, and i try to discover who i am, but i feel like people see me blurred and not clearly all the time and ifeel like people are fake to me like they say hello but inside they are thinking bad things about me i don't like confrontations i only want to be myself and be accepted but i'm starting to think this is impossible

The saying hello but underneath they are thinking bad is so true for me, and same, I try and be myself but it's like I'm doing something that others do not like. It's like I'm in a bubble, but I also have pisces Lilith so bad vibes are x10 worse. You are not alone with this, I try and tap into my creative side as an outlet for this energy instead of worrying about others.

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Canadiangirl
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posted December 05, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try to break the problem with a little humour.

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DeepFreeze thank you.... I guess, maybe you are right, and it's me the problem
I have been years trying to detect this and to transform it in something positive but i feel like i can't. Sometimes i'm sure about who i am but other times just need to scape and my humour change and then i lost myself again and have to try to find me. But i feel like i am a lot of things at the same time, i don't know how to say it....
Like for example when i meet someone like i can read what they are thinking about me and i get that ideaand then start to see myself that way, i'm not sure if i am expressing very well

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
I try to break the problem with a little humour.


i'm sure that is the answer, but sometimes it's like you can't anymore....

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptunianSag thank you for your thoughts, thank you for your answers
I feel the same as you and yes, it's a good idea to try to focus this aspects in creativity etc but sometimes for me is impossible, because i feel this so hard and it depresses me....im wondering if everybody with adoects to neptune feel this

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Canadiangirl
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posted December 05, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, I definitely know what its like. Just try to stay positive and not think that everyone reacts bad to you. I know how easy it is to get into the mindset but it doesn't help. I think its just a problem with communication with people. Just work on your communication and never act like someone you're not. If someone doesn't like you then that's *THEIR* problem.

I was just talking about this problem with someone about half an hr ago :P

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BorntoDesire
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posted December 05, 2013 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BorntoDesire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Neptune Transit Opposition Sun for one year, and I have to bear it for another three years.
I totally understand what you mean with thinking of everybody gets the wrong impression.
I really hate this feeling too, it scares me and it drives me crazy. But in my case I m able to calm myself, course its just a transit and it will pass!
I have no advise for you but I feel with you, once you can reflect on it there will be a way to transform it, for sure!! Keep it real!

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summerlite
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posted December 05, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The trick really is to not have expectations. Don't expect people to accept you. Whatever worries you are thinking, happens only in your head.

You do however have to work hard in accepting your true self. So that whenever the doubt arises, you'll know how handle it.

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**sending you my love and hugs**

Neptune doesn't do hard aspects in my chart, but I'm experiencing transit Neptune squaring my natal Moon and opposing my natal Venus/Asc for the last two weeks. I'm feeling depressed/sad/sensitive. I can't wait for this transit to be over. I was treated for depression couple of years ago, and it keeps coming back occasionally. It was such a waste of a year, it's like I didn't live at all. When people tell me they feel depressed, I take it very seriously, and I want to help. If you want to talk privately, I can leave my email.

I wish you to be strong and don't doubt yourself, and try to have a friend or two, who you can share your feelings with!

xx

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AnastasiyaEnchanted
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posted December 05, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AnastasiyaEnchanted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Neptune forming a tight square to my libra ascendant. I always feel like people don't see me for who I really am. I always get this intuitive feeling that people don't like me at first for whatever reason. Like they're criticizing me no matter what I do. I feel everyone's pain

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posted December 05, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also realize that most people are very wrapped up in their own lives and problems and will probably forget the encounter. If you do have a bad encounter with someone which I have had, you can change things the next time you meet. Relationships/encounters can change and improve over time.

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You people are amazing, thank you all, thank you. I come here to talk about the things i can't talk in my real life, simply because no one understands me and are not into astrology, but i know that what i am talking about is neptune, for sure. I feel like all of you and i am happy you can undersatnd this, thank you very much.
CanadianGirl, i definetly try to stay positive but it's like i have times that i get down, and feel like im not to good enough, and then i start with all this negative thoughts, but i say that i think people contribute to make me feel this because of what i said. I think they contribute to see me not very clear it's true that maybe the problem is me (the sun) that i don't see myself clearly but when people make a wrong idea about me i just feel it, and start to see myself that way. I will try to take out this thoughts, but today was a depresive day for me.
BornToDesire, i'm sure with the transit maybe you feel it more, because is a transit and is something you are not comfortable with or because you don't "recognise" this in your natal you feel it in the transit more hard. Thank you for your answer, it really helps, and makes me think i'm not alone. Lucky you, that it will pass....and you don't have to live with this all your life
Summerlite, thank you, i try not to have expectations but sometimes i just can't see it in a rational way, and i know a lot of times i'm right of what i think others think about me, and at the same time i now that a lot of times is my imagination....but that doesn't negate the fact that people see me wrong a lot of times i know i'm the first person who has to accept myself, but when you feel alone it's like....you just can think if there's something wrong with you, i hope someday i will transform this....
Liliya, i send hugs and love for you too, thank you very much, i understand you very very well....to be honest i see myself a depresive. Like you, sometimes i feel like that sad/depressed feeling comes back i understand you a lot....and like you said if you want to talk in private anytime i'm here, i take this feelings very serious too....

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AnastasiyaEnchanted i understand you seems like neptune makes this feeling.... it's sad

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Canadiangirl
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posted December 05, 2013 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
i definetly try to stay positive but it's like i have times that i get down, and feel like im not to good enough, and then i start with all this negative thoughts, but i say that i think people contribute to make me feel this because of what i said. I think they contribute to see me not very clear it's true that maybe the problem is me (the sun) that i don't see myself clearly but when people make a wrong idea about me i just feel it, and start to see myself that way. I will try to take out this thoughts, but today was a depresive day for me.

--I suffer from the negative thoughts/depression too. I guess the pt I was trying to make is don't let it consume you because its hard to dig yourself out. If you feel like you don't know yourself well, why not take some yoga or just some quiet time to think. Don't beat yourself up about it either, it can take a lifetime to truly know yourself. I hope this has helped you somewhat. Just know you aren't alone. I know what its like to not feel good enough.

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JudyVanTassel
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posted December 05, 2013 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JudyVanTassel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
i definetly try to stay positive but it's like i have times that i get down, and feel like im not to good enough, and then i start with all this negative thoughts, but i say that i think people contribute to make me feel this because of what i said. I think they contribute to see me not very clear it's true that maybe the problem is me (the sun) that i don't see myself clearly but when people make a wrong idea about me i just feel it, and start to see myself that way. I will try to take out this thoughts, but today was a depresive day for me.

--I suffer from the negative thoughts/depression too. I guess the pt I was trying to make is don't let it consume you because its hard to dig yourself out. If you feel like you don't know yourself well, why not take some yoga or just some quiet time to think. Don't beat yourself up about it either, it can take a lifetime to truly know yourself. I hope this has helped you somewhat. Just know you aren't alone.


Thank you a lot!!!! Of course your words helps, and you don't know how much, you are lovely and it's good that we can share this feelings and everybody know that we are not alone, it's good to know people understands you. That phrase, it can take a lifetime to know your truly self....it makes me cry, because inside of me.... maybe i know that's true

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posted December 05, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also realize that I'm sure many people are still learning about themselves. I highly doubt everyone knows themselves perfectly. It takes time and life experiences.

I'm very happy to hear I helped you.

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posted December 05, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
Also realize that I'm sure many people are still learning about themselves. I highly doubt everyone knows themselves perfectly. It takes time and life experiences.

I'm very happy to hear I helped you.


Yep!

Glad that people can help.

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Liliya
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posted December 05, 2013 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Judy, my email is thislogin@gmail.com

If you feel, like talking to someone, feel free to contact me. I know how you feel, I've been there, and I'm there occasionally. I'll listen and try to help.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Please, i need someone to talk to. Today i'm not feeling very well, i feel depressed. I think everybody gets the wrong impression of me, or they see me in a way that i'm not, like they start to imagine whatever they want about me and see me in wrong ways sorry i'm feeling very bad, i don't know how to stop this, i'm sure is because a very tight sun opposition neptune in my chart, neptune aspects the ascendant as well. This has been happening all my life and i try to handle it but today i can't anymore, i'm tired of this, the opposition is something supposedly you have to transform it or what is it? Am i who i think i am or am i who others think i am??I understand the basics of this aspect but live with it it's like people are opposed to me, please do you think aspects neptune/sun give this feeling to the others? Like they make an idea of you or they are not sure about who you are or like everyone is against you. I need someone, please.

You are so sweet, I should have known there's a Neptune opposition somewhere! I have it opposite the moon. It can be confusing. I often feel the same way, just kinda lost.

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