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LionFish
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posted December 06, 2013 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces Sun conjunct Pisces Merc with 1'46" orb.

Mercury only rules one house for me because Gemini is intercepted in the 11H in my natal. But mercury does rule my 3rd, the cusp being in Virgo.

I like order and lists. I'm good at lists. Especially alphabetical or numerical. I used to love the library codes when I was a child because it felt like my own private language that opened up new worlds to me.

I hate it when money isn't faced correctly. I can't count it if it's not all the same direction... it drives me batty.

I'm a bit OCD in some things that I do. Cleaning and counting mostly. I used to count my steps when I was a child, and always in a particular rhythm. And when I clean house it's always each chore in a specific order because I can't see the house actually being clean any other way. Like you can't sweep before you dust because sweeping raises dust..

I'm also super chatty and absorb knowledge like a sponge. I could be a perpetual student and be happy with my life, always learning something new.

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Ceridwen
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posted December 06, 2013 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct Mercury exact, too, and since Mercury rules the 7th and co-rules the 9th house (together with Sun actually), it means that my 7th and 9th house ruler is conjunct Sun in Sagittarius in 1st house.

Well, the Jupiter-influence can`t be denied with that fat Sag-stellium.

However, the ruler of 7th house ocnjunct Sun, does not make me Venusian in terms of behaviour, like we would maybe think of a Libran person.

But the 7th house and Venus have overlapping symbolism, and that is where they have their common traits.
In the case of the 7th house and Venus that would be their way of relating to other people.

So, no, ruler of 7th house ocnjunct my Sun does not make me diplomatic, harmonious-seeking, agreeable, unable to come to a decision, artistic, pleasing, attractive and whatever you think of as Venusian.
However it indicates that the way I relate to people is inseparably connected to my own identity.
Also means that I usually get along best with people who are like a mirror to me, and reflect some of my own personality back to me.

Maybe that even explains why I am not drawn romantically to GEminis at all, even though my 7th house is in Gemini.
Though I DO need a bit of MErcury-vibe in a relationship, but in a Sagittarian way, please.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 06, 2013 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever. It's about natural rulers.
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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh welll.. I still don't know nobody really answered to my satisfaction. House rulers are important so obviously when they conjunction your sun such themes related to that house will be prevelent . I'd say 12th house does neptunian vibes over Jovian.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 06, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If, for example, your 12th house ruler is Mars and you have Sun conjunct Mars, how can we talk about a Neptunian vibe here (unless they're in Pisces )? This is a weird idea imo.

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mercuryflow
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posted December 06, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh welll.. I still don't know nobody really answered to my satisfaction. House rulers are important so obviously when they conjunction your sun such themes related to that house will be prevelent . I'd say 12th house does neptunian vibes over Jovian.

hahaha…did you see my earlier post?
i think it depends on what ruler we are talking about…as cappy just said above….

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
The whole idea of house rulers is irrelevant then.. huh?
So why do we use them?

There's some logic for you?

^ All you said is you had 12th house conjunct and your not sure... so what am I suppose to do with info
Are 12th house themes prominent in your life?
read up on the 12th house if you're not sure.

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mercuryflow
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posted December 06, 2013 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
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The whole idea of house rulers is irrelevant then.. huh?
So why do we use them?

There's some logic for you?


i think house rulers are very important. but when the 12th house is ruled by mars, i think the neptune energy will be far from typical, when said ruler is conjunct sun.

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think if mars rules the 12th house martian energy kinda gets bogged down.
Do you even feel militant and martian?

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Kerosene
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posted December 06, 2013 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

So, no, ruler of 7th house ocnjunct my Sun does not make me diplomatic, harmonious-seeking, agreeable, unable to come to a decision, artistic, pleasing, attractive and whatever you think of as Venusian.
However it indicates that the way I relate to people is inseparably connected to my own identity.
Also means that I usually get along best with people who are like a mirror to me, and reflect some of my own personality back to me.


Interesting.
but if you think about.
7th house ruler conjunct sun kinda of a pardox because sun is about self and 7th house is about others.
Is it difficult because the energies are so different.

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summerlite
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posted December 06, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happens again if 12th house is Leo? It doesn't make sense to me.

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mercuryflow
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posted December 06, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I think if mars rules the 12th house martian energy kinda gets bogged down.
Do you even feel militant and martian?

what if mars is in the 1st conjunct sun and asc?

but yes, i feel martian…very driven and warrior like. my mayan sign is a warrior. i have a lot of forward energy, if that makes sense. even for a 12th house sun. and even though i'm mutable, i don't take **** from anyone, and no one really tries to give me **** .
having said that, i'm definitely not a strong aries type or a hot head or anything in that realm. and i do sometimes retreat into my 12th house zone, i guess that's just one side of the my many.

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mercuryflow
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posted December 07, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuryflow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
been thinking about this aspect and seeing how it manifests a little more clearly.

while my mars energy is strong, i see how it is colored with nepunian style interests. that which i pursue/take action is often rooted in watery depths, like mind altering journeys, occult knowledge, etc. and with the gemini placement, my curiosity is very strong. i'm propelled (mars) by it.
with my MC in aquarius, i'm driven to fight for social and environmental causes.

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Kerosene
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posted December 07, 2013 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by summerlite:
What happens again if 12th house is Leo? It doesn't make sense to me.

It makes perfect sense actually.
Don't you know where leo is in your chart is what your most focused on in life? aww I guess not

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Mercurian Intellect
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posted December 07, 2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
3rd house ruler conjunct sun:
Words, communication, letters, talking, telling. They have a strong need to express themselves with words and like to talk to people. Their lives could revolve around their speaking skills. Neighborhood people.

MC ruler conjunct sun:
Could be destined to a public life of some kind. Much success and definite rise in life connected to the career. Public existence. Being well known, for better or worse. Father's family prominent and their destiny could be tied to them. Father is very important in their life.


Leo ASC with Sun conjunct Venus.

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Nine
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posted December 07, 2013 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you have supporting evidence that they are rulers of the signs Pisces,Aquarius and Scorpio respectively?

Ooohh!! That was my evidence. I'll repost.

re: my 3rd house.

Scorpio/Sagittarius
Moon in Sagittarius
Pluto in Libra
Mars in Taurus
Third house people - siblings & cousins

Like most people I have siblings & cousins from all signs & both genders. The person who shaped me the most growing up was a Libra-Taurus female cousin. All the female cousins around my age turned out to be Libra (Libra-Pisces, Libra-Taurus, Libra-Leo). The male sibling I have the best relationship with is a Scorpio-Libra. My favoritest male cousin is a Libra-Moon unknown. True, I have an extended family, but these were the most relatable.

ETA: Neighbors also fall under the 3rd house. So siblings, cousins, & neighbors.

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