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Topic: NN in Aquarius question
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darksoul18
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posted December 13, 2013 05:39 PM
  
I can say that Im having trouble with people. I dont know why i struggle socially and feel uneasy around people including my family. I cant seem to relax and be myself a lot of times. What struggles come with North Node in Aquarius and what lessons do i need to learn?------------------
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Ellynlvx
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posted December 13, 2013 05:51 PM
Isn't Aquarius an Exalted placement?The Ruler (Uranus) is Square Domicile Mars/Moon. You know you have the Part of Fortune Conjunct the South Node within an eleven minute Orb? Conjunct the MidHeaven? IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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posted December 13, 2013 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Isn't Aquarius an Exalted placement?The Ruler (Uranus) is Square Domicile Mars/Moon. You know you have the Part of Fortune Conjunct the South Node within an eleven minute Orb? Conjunct the MidHeaven? I havent a clue what you are talking about . Lol
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Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted December 13, 2013 10:06 PM
I think they debate whether North Node is at the height of expression in Aquarius or in Gemini, so that is a good place to have it.Your Part of Fortune is an earmark for your greatest happiness, and it is right on your South Node, at the very top of your chart. The Nodes are on an Axis, they go together. When you want to know more about a placement in your chart, you look to the Ruler of the Sign in is placed in. In the case of your Node in Aquarius, you would look to Uranus, because that is the Planet that rules that Sign. When I looked at your Uranus, I noticed that it had a Square to the Moon and Mars. Since it sits in the Third House (Gemini's) it is about communication. Uranus Square Moon/Mars sounds to be the source of the feelings that you asked about. Mars is in Aries (as is the Moon) and that is a Dignified position, as Mars Rules Aries. The Moon is not as well-placed in this Sign, and the Moon is family, emotions, Mother, things of that nature. Your North Node is in Cancer's House, which is Ruled by the Moon. These are just the sorts of things you follow up to figure out what causes what in a chart. I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be Cryptic. IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted December 13, 2013 10:44 PM
It's fine. Thanks. Im still a little confused but thanks for your help.------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
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mir
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posted December 14, 2013 10:52 AM
From my own aqua-nn experience it's finally seeing things in wider perspective. So not so much focused on *YOURSELF* but more on the world around. It's not a matter of pushing a button in your brain (to change) but instead a natural process of development in which you'll come to that point.
In my case the SN is in the 12th and it finally left me no choice than to radically break with any 'higher power' as I completely lost 'myself' *IN* myself.. forced to feel the earth, feel my-body... feel the physical-world-around.IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted December 14, 2013 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
From my own aqua-nn experience it's finally seeing things in wider perspective. So not so much focused on *YOURSELF* but more on the world around. It's not a matter of pushing a button in your brain (to change) but instead a natural process of development in which you'll come to that point.
In my case the SN is in the 12th and it finally left me no choice than to radically break with any 'higher power' as I completely lost 'myself' *IN* myself.. forced to feel the earth, feel my-body... feel the physical-world-around.
I feel like Ive come to this point many times but i never seem to stay there. I feel like ive lost myself, but ive been down this road before. It keeps happening. I care so much for other people but dont give any credit to myself. I dont kno what to do with my life honestly, there are so many things that i have an interest in but at the same time i feel that i was put on this earth to help ppl and serve some kind of purpose.
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Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
jjj
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posted December 14, 2013 03:55 PM
AQUA NN and LEO SN is path from heart to reason... from ego to empathy... from being the centre of attention to being one in the crowd... from isolation to the market place.
This fixed nodal axis is one of the most difficult.
I have my NN in 9th and SN in 3rd. I listen a lot to my inner voice and like to travel and live abroad.
I was always a loner and I have become more social. But aquarius is often an outsider and I have only a few close friends.
Now with tr Uranus opposing my natal Uranus some things have become clearer to me.
The skipped step here is Scorpio and if you have personal planets in Scorpio (I have a stellium) than you have to learn these experiences first before passing to Aqua NN. Interpersonal emotional sharing has to be mastered before passing to aquarian energy.
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darksoul18
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posted December 14, 2013 04:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jjj:
AQUA NN and LEO SN is path from heart to reason... from ego to empathy... from being the centre of attention to being one in the crowd... from isolation to the market place.
This fixed nodal axis is one of the most difficult.
I have my NN in 9th and SN in 3rd. I listen a lot to my inner voice and like to travel and live abroad.
I was always a loner and I have become more social. But aquarius is often an outsider and I have only a few close friends.
Now with tr Uranus opposing my natal Uranus some things have become clearer to me.
The skipped step here is Scorpio and if you have personal planets in Scorpio (I have a stellium) than you have to learn these experiences first before passing to Aqua NN. Interpersonal emotional sharing has to be mastered before passing to aquarian energy.
So you are basically saying i have to master myself b4 becoming a humanitarian? ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
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jjj
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posted December 14, 2013 04:23 PM
I recommend you to read a bit about this skipped step... I dont know your chart, but I have a scorpio cluster and I always thought that my natal chart hinders me from reaching my NN because of my scorpio planets squaring it, but now I realize it may be a step towards it.IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted December 14, 2013 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by jjj:
I recommend you to read a bit about this skipped step... I dont know your chart, but I have a scorpio cluster and I always thought that my natal chart hinders me from reaching my NN because of my scorpio planets squaring it, but now I realize it may be a step towards it.
I have a very strong Scorpio influence in my chart, it struggles with Gemini. I also have moon and mars in aries, so i could see myself traveling to another country a warzone even to help ppl out. im having trouble mastering myself, i guess i dont trust myself bc of my chiron in cancer but idk...
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Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted December 14, 2013 09:38 PM
You do have Pluto as a skipped step, but the Orb is so wide I would hesitate to emphasize it. The Mercury/Vertex Wedge (Trine/Sextile) is much closer...IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted December 15, 2013 07:58 AM
Wow. Nice thread. I read a lot of myself in this too. I'm also a loner too with few really close friends though I like it, really. I love to be social but then I have to retreat home to recuperate. For me it's a balance of my public and private sides. In another thread I mentioned that I used think everything was about "me" and I've learned that that's not the case. I feel much better having changed that focus. No more excessive navel gazing. I do feel, like you, a bit lost regarding my purpose. Don't know what to do with my life. That is quite a struggle for me, as well. Can you all explain more the "skipped step"? It's the first time I hear this. ETA: The skipped step is planets aspecting your NN/SN? Or...?
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darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted December 15, 2013 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
You do have Pluto as a skipped step, but the Orb is so wide I would hesitate to emphasize it. The Mercury/Vertex Wedge (Trine/Sextile) is much closer...
Could you explain more please? Im not sure what you mean by all of this. Im new to astrology. Thank you. ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 15, 2013 03:40 PM
What troubles come with the North Node in Aquarius? Hmm, probably needing to relax in a crowd and let your hair down, like you already stated you cannot easily do. You have a Leo south node so you are content with yourself, pretty much. You can see eye-to-eye with you but maybe not so much with others.
I do not have an Aquarius north node, mine's in Pisces. What I don't like about being in a group is the randomness and element of surprise.
Do you feel more comfortable when the spotlight is on you? What about being in a group do you dislike? What about you and one other person, or do you like being on your own without anyone?IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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posted December 15, 2013 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What troubles come with the North Node in Aquarius? Hmm, probably needing to relax in a crowd and let your hair down, like you already stated you cannot easily do. You have a Leo south node so you are content with yourself, pretty much. You can see eye-to-eye with you but maybe not so much with others.
I do not have an Aquarius north node, mine's in Pisces. What I don't like about being in a group is the randomness and element of surprise.
Do you feel more comfortable when the spotlight is on you? What about being in a group do you dislike? What about you and one other person, or do you like being on your own without anyone?
No, i dont always feel more comfortable when the spotlight is on me, only sometimes do i feel this way. It depends on the group. It depends on the person or the group, I basically just dislike not being able to be myself. Its just not fun or enjoyable when i cant be myself. Sometimes i feel like i dont see eye to eye with everyone but thats normal isnt it? Ive also read that NN Aquarius's need to learn to let go. What does that mean exactly? Let go of what exactly?
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Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 15, 2013 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by darksoul18:
No, i dont always feel more comfortable when the spotlight is on me, only sometimes do i feel this way. It depends on the group. It depends on the person or the group, I basically just dislike not being able to be myself. Its just not fun or enjoyable when i cant be myself. Sometimes i feel like i dont see eye to eye with everyone but thats normal isnt it? Ive also read that NN Aquarius's need to learn to let go. What does that mean exactly? Let go of what exactly?
It's kind of normal but not always. People who like to socialize try to overlook not feeling comfortable. Try to relate to people in your group 
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Ellynlvx
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posted December 15, 2013 05:39 PM
Skipped Step:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOr1nV9p_XE I am leaning more and more to a wider Orb for the Vertex. Mercury Conjunct the Vertex would explain this. IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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posted December 15, 2013 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darksoul18:
[b] No, i dont always feel more comfortable when the spotlight is on me, only sometimes do i feel this way. It depends on the group. It depends on the person or the group, I basically just dislike not being able to be myself. Its just not fun or enjoyable when i cant be myself. Sometimes i feel like i dont see eye to eye with everyone but thats normal isnt it? Ive also read that NN Aquarius's need to learn to let go. What does that mean exactly? Let go of what exactly?
It's kind of normal but not always. People who like to socialize try to overlook not feeling comfortable. Try to relate to people in your group [/B][/QUOTE]What does letting go mean exactly? ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
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posted December 15, 2013 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Skipped Step:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOr1nV9p_XE I am leaning more and more to a wider Orb for the Vertex. Mercury Conjunct the Vertex would explain this.
Huh?? Im exponentially confused. Was that video a joke? I dont get it. ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
SDragon
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posted December 15, 2013 06:20 PM
You may want to read Jan Spiller's Astrology for the Soul which talks about North Nodes and a lot about what each Soul struggles through. Here's a breakdown of some of the themes:Attributes to Develop:
- Objectivity (seeing the total picture)
- Desire for friendship
- Making decisions for group's best interest
- Willingness to share unconventional ideas
- Willingness to champion humanitarian causes
- Active participation in groups
- Awareness of equality
- Relating to others as individuals, apart from their roles
- Creating win/win situations
- Recognizing how others are special Tendencies to Leave Behind
- Insistence on getting one's way
- Making changes just to exercise authority
- Attachment to taking risks
- Willfulness and stubborness
- Attachment to the need for approval
- Melodramatic tendencies
- Doing what's expected instead of following one's heart
- Unbridled passions
- Unawareness of others' importance
- Prideful responses based on fear
Since you seem to focus on the get away part and not being able to be yourself, I suspect you may be dealing with the roles and approval part. You can sense the group dynamic and you play a part to 'make' the group function but because it's not who you know you are, you need to get away to re-balance yourself.
Eventually you will learn that you can be yourself and fit in as an integral part of society without expecting yourself or others to fit into 'roles'. As you allow self-acceptance to fulfill you, you will no longer play the roles that you feel you need to to gain the 'approval' from others. Self-acceptance leads to acceptance of others and social/family relationships will start to thrive based on equality and authenticity. Best wishes IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 15, 2013 06:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by darksoul18:
What does letting go mean exactly?
It would be more about Leo. Maybe they are implying Leos are kinda possessive and they don't like to let go of what they have, even emotions. Aquarius is a detached air sign. Ideally, they can let go and remain in that detached state where they do not feel the desire to do what they can to hold onto everything they have. They just let things flow through their fingers. Just imagine handfuls of sand and it is flowing through into a pile below. That's a good visual of Aquarius letting things go. Even water, since Aquarius is the water bearer, is difficult to keep. One little leak and it spills everywhere. IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 15, 2013 07:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SDragon:
You may want to read Jan Spiller's Astrology for the Soul which talks about North Nodes and a lot about what each Soul struggles through. Here's a breakdown of some of the themes:Attributes to Develop:
- Objectivity (seeing the total picture)
- Desire for friendship
- Making decisions for group's best interest
- Willingness to share unconventional ideas
- Willingness to champion humanitarian causes
- Active participation in groups
- Awareness of equality
- Relating to others as individuals, apart from their roles
- Creating win/win situations
- Recognizing how others are special Tendencies to Leave Behind
- Insistence on getting one's way
- Making changes just to exercise authority
- Attachment to taking risks
- Willfulness and stubborness
- Attachment to the need for approval
- Melodramatic tendencies
- Doing what's expected instead of following one's heart
- Unbridled passions
- Unawareness of others' importance
- Prideful responses based on fear
Since you seem to focus on the get away part and not being able to be yourself, I suspect you may be dealing with the roles and approval part. You can sense the group dynamic and you play a part to 'make' the group function but because it's not who you know you are, you need to get away to re-balance yourself.
Eventually you will learn that you can be yourself and fit in as an integral part of society without expecting yourself or others to fit into 'roles'. As you allow self-acceptance to fulfill you, you will no longer play the roles that you feel you need to to gain the 'approval' from others. Self-acceptance leads to acceptance of others and social/family relationships will start to thrive based on equality and authenticity. Best wishes
How do i have confidence without pride? Why do i hate pride? Is this common with Leo SN's? ------------------
Gemini with Scorpio Asc (Pluto in 1st house)
"The human body is not a thing or substance given, but a continuous creation. The human body is an energy system which is never a complete structure; never static; is in perpetual inner self-construction and self-destruction; we destroy in order to make it new." - Norman O. Brown IP: Logged |
darksoul18
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From: Mercury
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 15, 2013 07:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darksoul18:
[b] What does letting go mean exactly?
It would be more about Leo. Maybe they are implying Leos are kinda possessive and they don't like to let go of what they have, even emotions. Aquarius is a detached air sign. Ideally, they can let go and remain in that detached state where they do not feel the desire to do what they can to hold onto everything they have. They just let things flow through their fingers. Just imagine handfuls of sand and it is flowing through into a pile below. That's a good visual of Aquarius letting things go. Even water, since Aquarius is the water bearer, is difficult to keep. One little leak and it spills everywhere. [/B][/QUOTE]Yeah, but why do ppl keep saying there are other lessons i need to learn first before crossing into Aquarius? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 15, 2013 07:41 PM
I would think with Leo SN you would be brimming with confidence and might have pride in yourself unless twelfth house is involved. IP: Logged |
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