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Topic: The Fair-Weather Friend
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6570 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2013 10:45 PM
From Urban: quote: A friend who is only a friend when circumstances are pleasant or profitable. At the first sign of trouble, these capricious, disloyal friends will drop their relationship with you.e.g. "I had thought Ted would stand by me when I was accused of theft, but it turned out he was only a fair-weather friend."
What in a natal or synastry chart could lead to this kind of behaviour? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6471 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted December 16, 2013 11:00 PM
Natally - Cap influence, Cap Suns in my experience. Another negative facet of their social awareness.
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socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 508 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted December 16, 2013 11:10 PM
Honestly, I think that most people will be fair-weather friends if they're only casual and not very close- since most people feel like they have their own lives to get on with.But anyways, your question- from what I've seen, low gemini/libra moons, cap- esp. cap venus, and sometimes aqua. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 11837 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 16, 2013 11:18 PM
Libra people without fixed placements in their charts maybe.IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor unregistered
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posted December 16, 2013 11:21 PM
Libra moons will hang with you til the point of stupidity when most other people will jump off the bus and run like hell - especially if they have hard aspects involving Venus and neptune.Capricorn people are pretty ride-or-die also, but not they aren't as far gone as Libra Moon Venus-Neptune ppl are. Like, they have a point where they'll throw you over if it comes to that, in order to save themselves. Piscean people are pretty damn fair-weather; I had a friend I was pretty close to for years, and as soon as she thought she'd found/made new friends she took off. Later I approached her in anger about how she took off and the friendship suddenly began again - I realized later that the friendships she'd thought she'd made earlier hadn't panned out. I had an Aqua sun woman insist she was in love with me after about a week of talking to me. After a lot of arguing and her sorta talkin me into it I developed feelings for her and quite comically, once a guy started to pay her some degree of attention she did a pretty hard and fast about-face. I think in general people who have chart markers indicating that they place importance on relationships, along with heavy Neptune activity are the type to stick around and ride it out after everyone else is gone. Having said that, the least fair-weather person I've ever known is a Taurus sun who pretty much stayed by me while people who swore they would never leave me, suddenly forgot who I was LOL. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6570 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2013 11:25 PM
quote: Most people will be fair-weather friends if they're only casual and not very close
O_O Really? But wouldn't that make them acquaintances, rather than 'friends' - if it was that casual? I was wondering about friends who are actually close... and who still drop you when you have problems.. when you least expect it.. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6570 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2013 11:26 PM
I don't know any Libra Mooners... but it's interesting that everyone is mentioning them. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 11837 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 16, 2013 11:37 PM
Are you a fair weather friend Odette? Would you drop me if I lost my job and couldn't buy you a vacuum? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10847 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 17, 2013 12:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: I was wondering about friends who are actually close... and who still drop you when you have problems.. when you least expect it..
I know what you're saying, Odette, however my experiences with fair weather people happened differently. I don't like friends who don't know how to get over arguments and yet I have many of them. So, ime, those are fair-weathered friends. Taurus sun, Pisces moon (and whenever she gets a boyfriend you go from 2 to 20 on her priority list.) Venus in Gemini Sag sun, Capricorn moon (won't argue, just leaves. Avoids.) Venus in Sagittarius Scorpio sun, Capricorn moon (pretty self-absorbed and avoid responsibility for problems in the friendship) Venus in Scorpio Pisces sun, Libra moon (there's always a certain amount of distance, hard to be in sync with and didn't talk for a year after a small argument.) Venus in Aquarius Virgo Sun, Sagittarius Moon (not a really "bad" friend per se but isn't very nurturing. Doesn't check up on you when something is wrong, etc.) Venus in Libra The people who were loyal and supportive although they may not have been apart of my everyday life or I don't see them (people who've consistently given me "good" vibes) Taurus Sun, Scorpio Moon, Venus in Leo Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon, Venus in Pisces Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon, Venus in Aries Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon… can't remember the Venus. Virgo Sun Venus in Leo IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2230 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 17, 2013 12:50 AM
Fair weathered friend? My mom. She has dropped good longtime friends as soon as they needed her the most. No way would she be friends with someone that no one likes or speak lowly of. She's Venus in Pisces. Wish I had more of her chart for you but I don't have it saved anymore.------------------ "When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead." — Barney Stinson IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti Knowflake Posts: 508 From: uranus Registered: Jul 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 12:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: O_O Really?But wouldn't that make them acquaintances, rather than 'friends' - if it was that casual? I was wondering about friends who are actually close... and who still drop you when you have problems.. when you least expect it..
Well, there are friends who are casual and who you associate with vs. friends who you can share very personal things with. I was thinking about people who you consider friends, but when you get into trouble, they don't really take a stance, kind of passive, really. But what I listed I find still stands, maybe hard uranus or neptune aspects too for unreliability. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2587 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 02:58 AM
Hmm, the cap influence thing is kinda true in my case. For me, it really depends on who the "friend" is and what he/she wants/needs me to do. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 03:02 AM
Fixed signs tend to be the most loyal and they like to stick by their friends no matter what if is someone they really love. IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 17, 2013 08:10 AM
Capricorns. lol. Something about them that bugs me.Fixed signs are stubborn, they'll stay put except for Aquarius, who's emotionally detached. I'll probably narrow it down to Cap sun/ air moons. But i don't think Gem moons drop friends. So it's probably Cap sun/ Aquarius moon or Cap sun/Libra moon. For Venus signs, it's the mutables that'll run in a relationship/friendship. Pisces venus, sag venus, gem venus except perhaps virgo. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted December 17, 2013 02:17 PM
Jupiter squares jupiter squares jupiter squares jupitersin synastry fit the fair-weather friend to a T... See venus square jupiter, it might seem lovely but keep and eye out you can't really trust them. Venus trine jupiter on the other hand is perfection. Mercury and Venus square Jupiter in natal chart. I think these placements make me "friends" with everyone. I don't do this with people Im close with but if someone is turning into a mess I start to avoiding them because I don't really want deal with that.. Even if it's not their fault often my feelings for them are not strong enough for me to stick around.. I was not really a "friend" to begin with. this I agree with but what can you do
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9168 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 02:19 PM
I am kinda like a fair weather friend, sometimes. It just depends. If someone has really bad luck, I feel sorry for them, but if they bring it on themselves and refuse to understand, see, or detach, then I avoid them because I know how these people are.They resent any kind of advice, intrusion, communication, regarding their situation and tend to view any as condescending. So, it becomes a lose/lose situation fast. I wanna do what a friend would, tell them honestly how I see it, but I know they would hate me for that so what's the point? IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2745 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted December 17, 2013 03:10 PM
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 03:32 PM
I'm like this! Kinda. I don't like just drop people, but...I dunno, I'd rather sail with people who have smooth lives like myself. I'm flaky. Besides, I'm very independent myself and don't really like to receive help unless I know I need it, so maybe that plays into it too. Same in reverse, I'll help out only if like...I really know they needed it I guess. I dunno, Aquarius Moon? I'm super fixed though, so who knows lmao! I have lots of H3 influence... IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted December 17, 2013 04:16 PM
Yeah same here. If they really need my help.. I stepped up and helped out an addict friend because I knew I would probably be the only one not to get emotional about it lol. Jupiter in Virgo is helpful like that. I started avoiding them after they cleaned up.. too awkward lol.Otherwise if I start to find them annoying or boring I'll probably just stop talking to them. I very few close friends like maybe 3. 4 more I like hanging out with but I don't really care too much about their personal lives. IP: Logged |
LeonisStar Knowflake Posts: 243 From: Daytona beach, FL, USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 06:43 PM
I have a Scorpio friend who drops all of his friends literally every. single. time. he gets a girlfriend. And we never say anything about it. Next time I'm just going to ignore him when he comes running back...sighI don't know his other placements but I'm almost positive he has some Virgo in him IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor unregistered
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posted December 17, 2013 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeonisStar: I have a Scorpio friend who drops all of his friends literally every. single. time. he gets a girlfriend. And we never say anything about it. Next time I'm just going to ignore him when he comes running back...sighI don't know his other placements but I'm almost positive he has some Virgo in him
I know a Venus in Leo, Sun in Virgo guy who runs through friends and girfriends like underwear. I got used to seeing people rant at him because he'd gone from hanging out with them (or sweettalking them) to overnight , not respnding to messages anyore and actively avoiding them. Which is why when I saw those placements listed here in connection to loyalty I literally exclaimed, "Nuh unhhhh!" at the computer screen lmao.
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LeonisStar Knowflake Posts: 243 From: Daytona beach, FL, USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 17, 2013 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor: I know a Venus in Leo, Sun in Virgo guy who runs through friends and girfriends like underwear. I got used to seeing people rant at him because he'd gone from hanging out with them (or sweettalking them) to overnight , not respnding to messages anyore and actively avoiding them. Which is why when I saw those placements listed here in connection to loyalty I literally exclaimed, "Nuh unhhhh!" at the computer screen lmao.
I dated a guy JUST LIKE THAT in highschool. BOY did he **** me off. When we broke up he would "sweettalk" me saying he wanted me black, blah blah, the next day I'd be like soooo? and he'd claim he forgot he said that. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted December 17, 2013 06:56 PM
^ My logic tells me why be loyal to people you don't even care about... Who cares if he goes through tons of girls, he probably never felt strongly for them. Maybe he never found that connection he was looking for. Not everyone you meet is a deep soul connection that you have to keep a flame lit for lolI'm only loyal to people who love me and would do anything for me.. IP: Logged |
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posted December 17, 2013 07:02 PM
People are very loyal by nature... have fun getting burnt by others your whole life IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6570 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted December 17, 2013 07:32 PM
Ok... I am thinking of a person (a guy) who was a close friend to another person (a girl) for over two years and who was there for her throughout those two years until she found out her niece had terminal cancer and became her carer. They were also involved in a sexual relationship but not officially together according to him. I am friends with the guy (who was a fair-weather friend in this situation) and he feels guilty about it. I was surprised hearing the story because I didn't expect that he could behave this way - and cut someone out - just because she was having problems. Being carer took up a lot of her time and she also stopped having sex with him I don't know - but I am seeing his behaviour as extra shallow.. I wish he had not told me because I'm kind of wary about getting close to him at all now. He has seriously put me off :\ IP: Logged |