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posted December 19, 2013 07:53 AM            

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Can this be shown in a chart? And if so by what aspects or placements?

Would it possibly be a Mercury/Mars thing? Or maybe Mercury/Neptune?

Please, enlighten me!!

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posted December 19, 2013 07:56 AM            

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I just wanted to add, I've suffered from insomnia all my life. Some kids wanted to stay up late, I didn't have a choice. I still don't.

Every night I'm up until the sun comes up, no matter how early I get up the day previously. It's like I don't want to miss anything by falling asleep..

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posted December 19, 2013 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Can this be shown in a chart? And if so by what aspects or placements?

Would it possibly be a Mercury/Mars thing? Or maybe Mercury/Neptune?

Please, enlighten me!!

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i have both of those as a trine and struggle with it but i do think it is my choice & i dont want to miss anything. my parents took me to the doctor even when i was a child and the dr told me to read or colour in bed. i should try that again.

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posted December 19, 2013 10:19 AM            

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Most of the time it's really hard for me to fall asleep but I think it's because my brain can't stop working lol.

I have Sag Mercury conjunct Pluto and sextile Uranus. At night my mind is pretty restless and I usually toss around in bed thinking for hours before I manage to sleep.

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posted December 19, 2013 10:27 AM            

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12th house. Afflicted 12th house makes you lose sleep.

i think certain planets too...maybe Moon in 12H. I can't remember the other.

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posted December 19, 2013 10:50 AM            

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I don't have anything in 12th house though. (except Sag as ruler)

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posted December 19, 2013 10:56 AM            

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what about moon-mercury?

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posted December 19, 2013 10:58 AM            

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For insomnia don't look at the natal chart. Check the transits and the SR charts. No one is BORN with insomnia. Insomnia is a condition that appears in teen years and continues later in life. Usually 6th and 12th house are the one that causes insomnia. Mercury ( brain) afflicted by Neptune in 12th house is one of the indicators.

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posted December 19, 2013 11:00 AM            

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I have the same issue. Less so now-a-days than about six years ago. I blame mercury opposite Uranus in my chart as I think it creates non-stop thinking. I have mercury opposite Neptune as well. Also stress and worry are contributing factors.

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posted December 19, 2013 11:08 AM            

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I get insomnia really bad sometimes, have Neptune in 6th house square Venus in 3rd, along with my Moon in 12th.

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posted December 19, 2013 06:58 PM            

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one doctor told me to breathe in through my nose with my tongue against the roof of my mouth and then breathe out of my mouth releasing my tongue - it definitely helps calm down and relax.

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posted May 09, 2016 07:22 PM            

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Moon and/or Venus in Gemini and air placements in general.

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posted May 09, 2016 11:16 PM            

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I have insomnia and I have Mercury and Neptune conjunct. I think my ruler of the 3rd in the 3rd keeps me up thinking of random things while I try to sleep

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posted May 10, 2016 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Pisces Plutonian:
I have insomnia and I have Mercury and Neptune conjunct. I think my ruler of the 3rd in the 3rd keeps me up thinking of random things while I try to sleep

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Mercury-Neptune (6 degree orb) conjunction here. I have struggled with insomnia on and off my entire adult life.

So many things can trigger insomnia for me:
Harsh planets transiting my 12th house.
Full moons.
Eclipses.
T saturn messing with my planets. Saturn is co-ruler of my 12th house.
T Uranus messing with my planets. Uranus is co-ruler of my 12th house.

I have tried so many different things for my insomnia. But in the end, having a regular meditation practice is the best preventative and curative medicine for my sleep issues.

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posted May 10, 2016 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Can this be shown in a chart? And if so by what aspects or placements?

Would it possibly be a Mercury/Mars thing? Or maybe Mercury/Neptune?

Please, enlighten me!!

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Insomiac here.

Mars conjunct Mercury here.
My mercury is very strong in my chart.

Even as I write this its almost 1am and I swore I would get up at 6am tomorrow, lol.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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posted May 10, 2016 03:12 AM            

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In my experience it seems to be a mercury thing, if you have lots of it or its afflicted...

I've always had an issue with falling asleep. Insomnia used to be shocking (awake for days at a time). Have a Gem Moon/Mars, Virgo Mercury/Venus, and the only other people I've known to have insomnia also have either Gem or Virgo in their charts or lots of mercury placements. Often a packed 3rd house.

Always wondered how people can just 'fall asleep' so fast. Like, on a good day it takes me at LEAST 2-3 hours. And that's NO phone, no distractions. Just me and my brain, lol.

Harsh aspects to mars or a energetic sign on Mars could also contribute. Mars is our physical energy, too...

12th house placements? I don't know. That's an interesting theory though...

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posted May 11, 2016 02:36 AM            

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I learned so much from this thread. Mercurial placements seem to be implicated to some extent, which makes sense, because the nature of insomnia and sleep have to do with the mind and its ability or inability to be quiet.

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posted May 11, 2016 11:45 AM            

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I sleep like a dead one
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the moon is in the 7th house... & Jupiter aligns with Mars... Then peace will guide the planets. And love will steer the stars!"

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