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Topic: Natal venus square uranus (and moon)
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next to neptune
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From: Mercury
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posted December 26, 2013 05:28 AM
  
How are people with venus square uranus dealing with relationships? Are they prone to just leave all of a sudden? Have you experienced this?Whats the difference between the venus and moon square uranus in this matter? I'm asking because I have the moon square uranus pretty tight and my guy have the venus square uranus pretty tight…we also have a lot of uranus aspect both in synastry and composite and none of them are good lol.
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From: The Strand
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posted December 26, 2013 05:32 AM
Venus square Uranus - fluctuating love, distant and impersonal love. Seems to be the classic aspect for a player. Likes odd/Uranian individuals. Fluctuating values, wealth, possessions.Moon square Uranus is much more in your face. Volatile emotions that can turn any minute. Can keep their distance emotionally. Tends to part with mum early. Again can like Uranian people/females. I have a family member with the square, one with conjunction. They can just turn emotionally - fine one minute, not fine the next with just the slightest thing to trigger it off. IP: Logged |
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From: Mercury
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posted December 26, 2013 05:57 AM
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Originally posted by 23:
Moon square Uranus is much more in your face. Volatile emotions that can turn any minute. Can keep their distance emotionally. Tends to part with mum early. Again can like Uranian people/females. I have a family member with the square, one with conjunction. They can just turn emotionally - fine one minute, not fine the next with just the slightest thing to trigger it off.
Yes I can be like that, it's really annoying….and not good for partnership either IP: Logged |
jjj
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posted December 26, 2013 06:52 AM
I am close to some people with tight harsh Uranus/Moon aspects (conj and opposition). One of them is quite extreme case because he has Venus trine Uranus as well and his moon is in Aqua (opposing Uranus).
I have seen that these people fear emotional vulnerability more than death. They just leave everything and everybody... a conversation, a person... and i just stand there wondering why he left in the middle of word without saying even good bye. I hurt me at first but now I take it less personally (we are just friends). I think that these people were abandoned by someone in an early age and now they protect themselves against this disappointment, leaving everyone else first.
What I have tried... is to give them back the security that has been ripped away... not to behave the same way with them, but I always say "good bye, see you again", "we ll see soon" etc. Because it looks to me that they are also unsure if they see you again. They lack the basic sense of security and need it so badly.IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted December 26, 2013 07:02 AM
I have Uranus trine Sun, Mercury, Ceres, Venus and square Venus. Uranus is in 3H and the rest in 11H. I am horrible to date. I will love one second and be absolutely indifferent the next with no way back. Uranus is also sextile pretty much all other planets so there's a lot of electricity in me and it's not controlable. I have tried. Yes, I just bolt. Without warning. And I will up and leave mid-conversation or totally lose interest in what is being said simply because something else ignited my brain. I don't like emotional displays or if someone tries to play my emotional strings. I'll shut down. My biggest fear is commitment of ANY kind. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 07:04 AM
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Doux Rêve
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posted December 26, 2013 07:05 AM
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posted December 26, 2013 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by jjj:
What I have tried... is to give them back the security that has been ripped away... not to behave the same way with them, but I always say "good bye, see you again", "we ll see soon" etc. Because it looks to me that they are also unsure if they see you again. They lack the basic sense of security and need it so badly.
Aww…I never thought about that. My guy does this with me always even though he is really uranian. (Sun and venus square uranus)
He always asks me when he will see me again, and it really gives me a nice sense of security when he does that it's a really good idea and I'm sure that your friend really appreciates it deep down, even though he acts like he doesn't care or is too busy to plan the next meeting. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 07:11 AM
23: Uranus is aspecting almost everything in my chart, but I don't feel abandoned by my mom or dad. My dad is really "special" though and hasn't been the greatest dad (some may say) but I think he was wonderful in my early years and he was definitely always there for me.I think uranus just doesn't like boundaries, so avoid being a strict parent and give maximum freedom. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 07:12 AM
Thanks for your advice Next, I've backed off a lot and it seems you advice matches it. Very reassuring to hear all that.Good night, off to bed. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by 23:
Thanks for your advice Next, I've backed off a lot and it seems you advice matches it. Very reassuring to hear all that.Good night, off to bed.
Good to hear it  Your children will probably be very original and have unique interests and talents, so it's important for them that you boost their self-esteem and always tell them that no matter what they wan't to do with their lives, you will support them! IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted December 26, 2013 08:48 AM
Hmm I have natal venus conj Uranus and moon square Uranus. I'm not really prone to leaving people who are close to me. Although sometimes when I feel overwhelmed I'll retreat and after a period of self-imposed "exile", I'll go back to them. It feels almost like their presence in my life takes a "toll" on me. Emotional closeness is good but yah, probably I just don't need too much of it. But that is only with friends n family members. With my s.o I don't feel the need to get away. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 09:07 AM
I have Sun/Moon/Venus square Uranus and Saturn.I always took love and relationships very serious even though the other person didnt ( In some cases the person had trines with Saturn and Uranus to my surprise).
When I liked someone I wanted to have a relationship. I didnt run away and also I was very sure about what I felt. No instability.
Now, when someone liked me but I didnt like that person back (2 cases) I was honest and didnt give those people false hopes (even though one was obssesed with the idea that I didnt like him back and the other wanted me ONLY for sex. In both cases it was hard for them to let me go (those were the older guys). But I couldnt and didnt want to play with their feelings. It wouldn't have been fair.
Even though I almost all my personal planets squaring Uranus and Saturn I always wanted to have a stable, steady relationship. Cannot say the same for the other person with whom I was with. I guess I wasn't born to have luck in love area.
When I started doing astrology I have read this: people with squares with Uranus and Saturn will tend to look after unsual and older partners for stability. Guess what? I have been with older guys. They were more IMMATURE than I was at 20.
That's why I say its better to be the same age. The stereotypes are gone and you get less headaches. At least you know with whom you dealing.
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posted December 26, 2013 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
When I started doing astrology I have read this: people with squares with Uranus and Saturn will tend to look after unsual and older partners for stability. Guess what? I have been with older guys. They were more IMMATURE than I was at 20.
That's why I say its better to be the same age. The stereotypes are gone and you get less headaches. At least you know with whom you dealing.
I have never liked to be with older guys, I've tried it a bit but it always failed really quickly and I didn't felt much. Also, I think my venus in 5th house want's someone who looks young and isn't too serious. My partners have never been the serious types and that suits me well… you can overcome many problems in life with a bit of sarcasm/humor and not taking anything so hard… I've stopped expecting anything from anyone and that actually helps a lot… in that way people don't let me down, cause I never expected them to do as I wanted anyways…moon square saturn lesson learned! IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I have never liked to be with older guys, I've tried it a bit but it always failed really quickly and I didn't felt much. Also, I think my venus in 5th house want's someone who looks young and isn't too serious. My partners have never been the serious types and that suits me well… you can overcome many problems in life with a bit of sarcasm/humor and not taking anything so hard… I've stopped expecting anything from anyone and that actually helps a lot… in that way people don't let me down, cause I never expected them to do as I wanted anyways…moon square saturn lesson learned!
In my case even if there are no expectations, I always get the wrong people both in friendship and love. Nobody ever been there for me. Especially at the worst. The soon I was having problems they were getting BORED and leave me. I was ALWAYS there for them. Always helping and giving, listening everything. After I was left alone I realised how stupid I was. People are not kind towards me in a free way. They want something in return, usually benefits. After that they throw me in the garbage like an used object.
Only when I was treating them with indifference and coldness they were getting back to me. Usually for more benefits. Not anymore. I'm not a naive person anymore therefore not a good friend.
I remember one "friend" who told me: I have no respect for you. Then for who? Another one dumped me for a person who liked the world more than me (world meaning going every night to clubs, smoking and drinking because I wasn't such person). IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted December 26, 2013 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Hmm I have natal venus conj Uranus and moon square Uranus. I'm not really prone to leaving people who are close to me. Although sometimes when I feel overwhelmed I'll retreat and after a period of self-imposed "exile", I'll go back to them. It feels almost like their presence in my life takes a "toll" on me. Emotional closeness is good but yah, probably I just don't need too much of it. But that is only with friends n family members. With my s.o I don't feel the need to get away.
Exactly my experiences. I have the same aspects as yours and gosh I can't stand girls who want to be all bestie/BFF with me. I like my time alone and only meet up with friends once every week or every two weeks. Ugh! I think Uranus just means the person needs a lot more personal space than others IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 10:51 AM
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Exactly my experiences. I have the same aspects as yours and gosh I can't stand girls who want to be all bestie/BFF with me. I like my time alone and only meet up with friends once every week or every two weeks. Ugh!I think Uranus just means the person needs a lot more personal space than others
Definitely. I don't have a strong Uranus but I am like that. I like having friends but I like my space too. Although I have had some people who wanted me to be their friend but that way was SUFFOCATING. Dunno how to explain it but scared the hell out of me.
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posted December 26, 2013 11:31 AM
My s.o has Venus square Uranus however I have Mars square Uranus.So I can actually keep up with Venus-Uranus expectations. To be honest I am an unusual lover to have and not conventional by any means.
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posted December 26, 2013 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
My s.o has Venus square Uranus however I have Mars square Uranus.So I can actually keep up with Venus-Uranus expectations. To be honest I am an unusual lover to have and not conventional by any means.
Most people I date have hard aspects to uranus... complaining would be pretty hypocritical of me
Heh, me 2…I have also mars square uranus, and he has venus square uranus… I hope this means I can keep up with him then!
But you live together with your s.o. right? How is that if you both need your alone time so often?
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posted December 26, 2013 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
In my case even if there are no expectations, I always get the wrong people both in friendship and love. Nobody ever been there for me. Especially at the worst. The soon I was having problems they were getting BORED and leave me. I was ALWAYS there for them. Always helping and giving, listening everything. After I was left alone I realised how stupid I was. People are not kind towards me in a free way. They want something in return, usually benefits. After that they throw me in the garbage like an used object.
Only when I was treating them with indifference and coldness they were getting back to me. Usually for more benefits. Not anymore. I'm not a naive person anymore therefore not a good friend.
I remember one "friend" who told me: I have no respect for you. Then for who? Another one dumped me for a person who liked the world more than me (world meaning going every night to clubs, smoking and drinking because I wasn't such person).
Sorry to hear that. Do you have some aspect that indicates why people are cruel to you? Afflictions to 11th house ruler? Chiron afflictions? I don't know why you were so unlucky. Maybe it's venus, neptune or pluto hard aspects?
I read somewhere that you have sun square saturn? So you suffered from low self esteem in an early age. Somehow you have made it possible for people to walk over you, maybe because you don't realize your own value and also attract bad people this way.
At least you became aware of this now, so you can stop people from doing more harm.
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posted December 27, 2013 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Sorry to hear that. Do you have some aspect that indicates why people are cruel to you? Afflictions to 11th house ruler? Chiron afflictions? I don't know why you were so unlucky. Maybe it's venus, neptune or pluto hard aspects?
I read somewhere that you have sun square saturn? So you suffered from low self esteem in an early age. Somehow you have made it possible for people to walk over you, maybe because you don't realize your own value and also attract bad people this way.
At least you became aware of this now, so you can stop people from doing more harm.
11th house is empty. Virgo on cusp and Mercury in 9th house trine Saturn.
People are cruel to me because I cannot do the things thy want me to do and I cannot be the person they want me to be. They never could accept me the way I am. This things came also from my family.
Since I was born I felt like a burden to my family due my disability. My parents didn't show affection or support. They always made sure if I had food to eat was enough. They are cold and emotionally abusive.
My mother likes to manipulate and control my life. She never approved my friends or my bfs. They were all bad to me.
I remember one thing she told me: you should better choose a guy with a disability like you because a normal guy WOULD NEVER love you. She also told me I don't need to get married or have children.
She hates the fact I want to move to another country, she forced me to go to the college she wanted and when she found out I write she told me I am wasting my time. I am just a good of nothing. My so called friends were as critical and cruel as her. And they wonder why I became this monster.
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posted December 27, 2013 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by next to neptune:
[b] Sorry to hear that. Do you have some aspect that indicates why people are cruel to you? Afflictions to 11th house ruler? Chiron afflictions? I don't know why you were so unlucky. Maybe it's venus, neptune or pluto hard aspects?
I read somewhere that you have sun square saturn? So you suffered from low self esteem in an early age. Somehow you have made it possible for people to walk over you, maybe because you don't realize your own value and also attract bad people this way.
At least you became aware of this now, so you can stop people from doing more harm.
11th house is empty. Virgo on cusp and Mercury in 9th house trine Saturn.
People are cruel to me because I cannot do the things thy want me to do and I cannot be the person they want me to be. They never could accept me the way I am. This things came also from my family.
Since I was born I felt like a burden to my family due my disability. My parents didn't show affection or support. They always made sure if I had food to eat was enough. They are cold and emotionally abusive.
My mother likes to manipulate and control my life. She never approved my friends or my bfs. They were all bad to me.
I remember one thing she told me: you should better choose a guy with a disability like you because a normal guy WOULD NEVER love you. She also told me I don't need to get married or have children.
She hates the fact I want to move to another country, she forced me to go to the college she wanted and when she found out I write she told me I am wasting my time. I am just a good of nothing. My so called friends were as critical and cruel as her. And they wonder why I became this monster.[/B][/QUOTE]What kind of disability do you have? You don't have to tell but I get curious.
But I really do understand why you are so angry at your family. They didn't treat you the way they should.
I get the feeling that I should be careful of what I say to you. But you sound extremely sensitive and maybe even consumed with the hatred that has build up through the years. But that is OK and it is good to let it all out. The more you talk about it the more you will be able to let it go. I think you have come to a phase in your life where you just don't wan't more sh**. So just feel free to talk about it as long as you feel frustrated and angry. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 27, 2013 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What kind of disability do you have? You don't have to tell but I get curious.
But I really do understand why you are so angry at your family. They didn't treat you the way they should.
I get the feeling that I should be careful of what I say to you. But you sound extremely sensitive and maybe even consumed with the hatred that has build up through the years. But that is OK and it is good to let it all out. The more you talk about it the more you will be able to let it go. I think you have come to a phase in your life where you just don't wan't more sh**. So just feel free to talk about it as long as you feel frustrated and angry.
Yes, I don't give a damn anymore. I'm not angry. I'm sick and tired. Don' worry, you don't need to be careful with your words. Its not something I didnt heard before. I got used to it. And don't forget: I'm immature and a ***** . Like some people think on this forum. Let's stick to that. Nobody would like a nice Rosalind. Then, there would be no fun here on the forum. IP: Logged |
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posted December 27, 2013 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Yes, I don't give a damn anymore. I'm not angry. I'm sick and tired. Don' worry, you don't need to be careful with your words. Its not something I didnt heard before. I got used to it. And don't forget: I'm immature and a ***** . Like some people think on this forum. Let's stick to that. Nobody would like a nice Rosalind. Then, there would be no fun here on the forum.
I wouldn't put it that way. I think no matter who you chose to be, you will always be that kind of person who attracts a lot of attention. And I think you are a nice person deep down, who just unfortunately had an extremely rough life and god some bad experience with people. It takes its time to recover from that. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 27, 2013 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I wouldn't put it that way. I think no matter who you chose to be, you will always be that kind of person who attracts a lot of attention. And I think you are a nice person deep down, who just unfortunately had an extremely rough life and god some bad experience with people. It takes its time to recover from that.
Attention is the last thing I want. I wanted affection and support. I don't think I'll ever recover from that. Usually people with such lives hardly can think there can be happiness for them. I read Toxic Parents book and everything said in that book is everything I have lived.
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