posted December 30, 2013 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Here's the chart of someone who's very religious:

And here's the chart of someone who acts very religious but actually hides behind religion and hurts others with false accusations and paranoid ideas (time of birth is unknown, so houses are probably false, although they actually seem to fit...):

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posted December 30, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It is the way it is asked.

For example, how would you like me to ask "what are the aspects of sinful, immoral, ungodly atheists?"

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Exactly. No need to be obsessed w/ religious people when you aren't even religious yourself. LOL.

I'm not an athiest, but I am not obsessed with them either.

posted December 30, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Exactly. No need to be obsessed w/ religious people when you aren't even religious yourself. LOL.

I'm not an athiest, but I am not obsessed with them either.

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posted December 30, 2013 11:58 AM            

The charts doux posted are very interesting.

1st chart:
2nd house Sagittarius means self-worth based on belief system. could be a sign of being religious.

2nd chart:
3rd house Sagittarius. Talks about belief system. Mars on 9th house. Sounds like someone who would preach religion nonstop.

Sounds like a certain Libra rising here...

oh god the irony.

posted December 30, 2013 12:03 PM            

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posted December 30, 2013 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Hahahaha right! And it's always those people who sit and ask questions such as this one. It's like get over yourself already

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posted December 30, 2013 12:07 PM            

Unfortunately, the second chart's houses are not accurate, although they seem to make a lot of sense...

What I notice, is indeed usually a planet, or a Node in the 9th house.

In the first chart, which is accurate, Jupiter conjuncts the South Node in the 9th house, unafflicted. Venus is technically in the 9th, conjuncting the MC, squaring Pluto on the ASC - that person shows their belief to the world, they don't hide it, and they pursue it intensely because it's a personal thing for them (Venus sq. Pluto - intense focus).

In the second chart, looking at the aspects, Jupiter opposes the Moon/Neptune conjunction, making religion a personal/emotional thing (Moon) but very distorted by personal bias (Neptune, Scorpio - paranoia, dark ideas about others). Jupiter, the Moon and Neptune are all connected to Pluto by easy aspect, making it quite easy to focus on that topic and maybe even become quite obsessed with it. The Saturn opposition to Pluto/Uranus and the square to Mars shows the external conflict the person is faced with due to their fixation on religion, which alienates them from others and drives others away, making them feel frustrated, abandoned and misunderstood - which further amplifies their focus on religion and the "badness" of others.
I suppose there's some 9th house activity in the chart for sure, even though I don't know the TOB.

posted December 30, 2013 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I would think the atheist would have a lot of action in the empirical signs that trust their five senses and rely more on what they consider science, although science is far from explaining how the universe works. Atheists tend to believe they know everything when in fact they know very little. An atheist does not want to admit he is limited in his ability to perceive. Instead he mocks those who believe there is more to living organisms than just their five senses. They could have a sixth sense, perhaps. Many animals have this but for some reason, atheists insist humans are not allowed theirs. I consider them to be more dogmatic and narrow minded.

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Best response in this entire thread.

BOOM!!! *drops mic*

BTW - I have Moon & Chiron in the 9th. Neptune in the 3rd.

posted December 30, 2013 12:12 PM            

I find zealous religious people and zealous atheists to be equally annoying. I always think, if it's something that you believe, it's in your heart. Don't talk too much, BE the living example of what you believe. Live it and that should be all that you need.

It was bound to stir up some trouble. It's a reason why it's not allowed to be discussed at many work places. People kill for that kind of thing.

I wish you all peace.

Astrologically... Hmmmm... is Jupiter associated with religious beliefs? Or do I have that wrong?

My Jupiter is 8th, Taurus. Moon Gemini, 9th.
Sun Leo, 11th.

posted December 30, 2013 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I'm not going to state my beliefs. If you think it's obvious to you, don't think. You don't know. :P

I find zealous religious people and zealous atheists to be equally annoying. I always think, if it's something that you believe, it's in your heart. Don't talk too much, BE the living example of what you believe. Live it and that should be all that you need.

It was bound to stir up some trouble. It's a reason why it's not allowed to be discussed at many work places. People kill for that kind of thing.

I wish you all peace.

Astrologically... Hmmmm... is Jupiter associated with religious beliefs? Or do I have that wrong?

My Jupiter is 8th, Taurus. Moon Gemini, 9th.
Sun Leo, 11th.

Anyway, I'm going to run away from this thread now. LOL It's getting ugly. I have better things to do.

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Yes, it's the dogma from both sides, DeepFreeze, that rubs us moderates the wrong way. I respect Christians who follow the words of Jesus, not His followers, and remove the thorns from their eyes so they can see the loveliness intended in Jesus's teachings. It was never about judging.

posted December 30, 2013 12:28 PM            

I don't think Cappy is an atheist, I think she believes in past lives etc.

posted December 30, 2013 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Look at what you just wrote and read it to yourself out loud. I know what it means I don't need you or anyone else to "teach" or coach me on what I know sweetheart. I'm not stupid. And it's not just zealot it's a religious zealot, look up that definition.

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posted December 30, 2013 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

IT WOULD BE A PLEASURE.... why don't I reiterate my resume....

Oxford Dictionary:

Zealot: noun

"a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals."

What is your definition?

What are your educational credentials?

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Oh look! The Oxford! I'm so impressed!

posted December 30, 2013 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

In the second chart, looking at the aspects, Jupiter opposes the Moon/Neptune conjunction, making religion a personal/emotional thing (Moon) but very distorted by personal bias (Neptune, Scorpio - paranoia, dark ideas about others).

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i like your analysis', you raise a thread a few bars simply by being on it even when it got so low & pathetic.

i have moon conj neptune although in SAG opposite jupiter. i have a religious sensibility without being religious exactly. don't know how to explain it but i invest very strongly in narratives. including paranoia. and on the breakdown of friendships, or other life path decisions, i feel a very strong rupturing from the narrative more so than the tangible things. for example, i'd believe a certain connection or situation gave my whole life meaning. it's the meaning where the situation has weight for me.

posted December 30, 2013 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
"Looking up the definition" would involve putting "religious" at the end of what I quoted. What was your point again? To call me a zealot for noticing your ridiculous, over-the-top response to Cappy's thread? Like a you know what, because you're not stupid and you can read.

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posted December 30, 2013 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I would think the atheist would have a lot of action in the empirical signs that trust their five senses and rely more on what they consider science, although science is far from explaining how the universe works. Atheists tend to believe they know everything when in fact they know very little. An atheist does not want to admit he is limited in his ability to perceive. Instead he mocks those who believe there is more to living organisms than just their five senses. They could have a sixth sense, perhaps. Many animals have this but for some reason, atheists insist humans are not allowed theirs. I consider them to be more dogmatic and narrow minded. The difference is, they often do not try to inflict their will upon others by interfering in matters of state and forcing their policies on others.
What they do insist on is following the constitution and it clearly states this is not a theocracy and we should be objective in policy making, not cater to a specific religious group.

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I disagree about atheists being people who don't want to admit their limitations.

Lots of atheists are spiritual - they might not believe in god but might say believe in Karma.

Other societies have very different religious orientation from America. America is a very religious country.

I think atheists want to acknowledge that they will never know how certain events occur and they refuse to attribute them to a god. Some atheists believe in aliens and all types if other forces.

Some atheists can be categorized as zealots (those posting billboards with pictures mocking Santa Claus for example). Preaching the belief in nature and other forces sis a type if religious orientation. I dislike the fact that people think atheism isn't a type of belief.

posted December 30, 2013 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
i like your analysis', you raise a thread a few bars simply by being on it even when it got so low & pathetic.

i have moon conj neptune although in SAG opposite jupiter. i have a religious sensibility without being religious exactly. don't know how to explain it but i invest very strongly in narratives. including paranoia. and on the breakdown of friendships, or other life path decisions, i feel a very strong rupturing from the narrative more so than the tangible things. for example, i'd believe a certain connection or situation gave my whole life meaning. it's the meaning where the situation has weight for me.

(i also think atheists have the same religious sensibility)

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