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Topic: What's the widest orb you use (personally) for different aspects?
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AriesLilith
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posted December 31, 2013 06:22 AM
  
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
I tend to use huge orbs in comparison to most because I kept noticing that a lot of times when people would say an aspect didn't count because of the orb, I still felt that aspect or saw that aspect in someone else anyway.I definitely have Mars square Pluto, I feel that aspect, but most astrologers would ignore it entirely because of the orb. Same for Sun-Neptune. And I've seen enough people whose large orb aspects were clearly activated and operating in that person to just be really cynical about the whole "3 degree orb or nothing" thing.
3 degrees seems a bit too few. Also, specially in natal charts, if the elements forming the aspect are in the right signs (not out of sign aspect), then the incompatibility still them would still be felt in some way. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 31, 2013 07:01 PM
I use 6 degrees for planets/luminaries and 2 for asteroids unless I have a reason to expand. Like if I'm feeling an energy in myself or in a relationship, and I can't find anything in the charts to match that feeling, I will widen the orbs a bit and see what new aspects emerge. I say I have Chiron conjunct Jupiter even though they are almost 8 degrees apart. If they are not conjunct, Chiron is unaspected. Really what's the difference between having an unaspected planet and one that's conjunct Jupiter?  I can't differentiate subtleties like that. All I know is, my Chiron feels very Chiron-y. Rather than go into this whole spiel, I say I have Chiron conjunct Jupiter and hope no one grills me on the orbs.  IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor
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Registered: Dec 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
3 degrees seems a bit too few. Also, specially in natal charts, if the elements forming the aspect are in the right signs (not out of sign aspect), then the incompatibility still them would still be felt in some way.
I didn't mean that literally I'm talking more about the general tendency towards small orbs in the astrological community. I'm way in left field on orbs. Like I said a lot of times I will count stuff at nine ten or even more. Sometimes they don't have to be in aspect technically at all but if they're in signs that form an aspect, like Sag and Leo...I'll call that a trine regardless even if the orb is so big that Astrodienst doesn't consider them in aspect at all. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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Registered: Sep 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 07:09 PM
From Ptomely, conjunctions with any body but the Sun are a 8 degree maximum, Sun is 9 degree.
Square's and opposites are a 4 degree maximum, and trines and sextiles 3 degree.
Asteroids and fixed stars are 1-2 degree's.For me it depends on the body, the orb is going to be relatively different from the Sun to say, Pluto or Ceres. Once you understand the full concept of the chart you should be able to feel the orbs. I have Pluto and Jupiter(Ixion Horus & Giza) conjunct the ascendant with a 2 orb, then Mercury is 8 degree's down, Mercury goes into the Pluto-Jupiter conjunction after about 5 seconds of relaxed thinking. Juno is 4 degree's from Mercury, i feel her within 2 seconds. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted December 31, 2013 07:14 PM
For the orbits-
Usually whatever orbits i can feel if the planet in question was a transit to my natal - the transiting Moon i can feel 5-6 degree away from a natal planet. Heck,i can feel the Moon even just entering a certain sign that correlates with my natal chart. Therefore, i give the Moon in synastry a wider orb. Maybe up to 7 but only if it is applying. Only 3 if it is separating.
Personal planets transits I feel 3-4 degrees before locking an exact degree to my natal. Id give Venus, Mars, even Jupiter a 4 degree in synastry.
The outer planets transits i feel only when they are close / less then 2 degrees from my planets and they have an inevitable effect when they become exact. . I'd give Pluto, Neptune and Uranus 2 to 3 degrees in synastry.
Other people's planets over you natal chart are like permanent transits, the astrologer Kim F. says. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted December 31, 2013 07:15 PM
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Ellynlvx
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posted December 31, 2013 07:23 PM
Oh, were we talking Transits?I meant Natal, Synastry. That sounds about right for Transits. IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted December 31, 2013 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
I didn't mean that literally I'm talking more about the general tendency towards small orbs in the astrological community.I'm way in left field on orbs. Like I said a lot of times I will count stuff at nine ten or even more. Sometimes they don't have to be in aspect technically at all but if they're in signs that form an aspect, like Sag and Leo...I'll call that a trine regardless even if the orb is so big that Astrodienst doesn't consider them in aspect at all.
I'd say it's best to analyze each situation with one's intuition rather than guiding by only strict rules. IP: Logged |
IMoppedtheFloor
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From: USA
Registered: Dec 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
I'd say it's best to analyze each situation with one's intuition rather than guiding by only strict rules.
Pretty much. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 01, 2014 04:24 AM
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 01, 2014 04:25 AM
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 01, 2014 04:25 AM
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 01, 2014 04:25 AM
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 01, 2014 04:25 AM
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted January 01, 2014 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by popcorn:
I allow up to 6 degree when there are sextiles and quinkunks in synastry with double wammies.
144 degrees aspect is considered as a Bi Quintile. IP: Logged |
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