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hannaramaa
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posted January 09, 2014 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Caramel! Sorry I've been busy with work, life, etc.

So as you know, we have a lot of the same aspects! I have Venus square Saturn (5 degrees) and square Neptune (6 degrees.) My Venus is in the 11th however, which I think means I like to observe love happening more than be apart of it directly. Because yours is in the 12th I think you will have more successful relationships romantically (and with women also since we're talking bout Venus, equals friendships) if you are private about them. I know my description will sound like 8th house matters, but I don't see it that way: basically I see the 12th house as the closed door on our personalities, and the first house as the door open.

^ That being said I would imagine you can produce a very rich love life (you can otherwise too, mind over matter) by adapting more to Piscean energy. Learning to feel things out with your antennas and helping people, being creative.

As for the Saturn square, you may get along better with über cardinal energy since your Venus is already in Aries, and Saturn rules Capricorn which is a cardinal sign. Do you like people who have prominent Libra, Cancer, Aries, Capricorn placements? Capricorn especially since we're dealing with Saturn. Sometimes, however, too much cardinal energy will clash. If you find this to be true in your everyday dealings you may want to look into people who have fixed energy. With the cardinal energy you have and it being in the 12th house I'm IMAGINING you may act elusive, evasive in love, maybe have trouble trusting? So you need someone that's patient and forgiving and understands; someone compassionate. Fixed signs are not always this way but of course use your own judgment when it comes to reading people. Learn to trust the love you're receiving from others.

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posted January 09, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
LOL @ "eat you, caramel"!
Thanks for the analysis Sven! Hahah no I have had no secret affairs, but I do fantasize about love. I'm restricted in a way that the love I want I never get, or may be the one I want is the one I know I wont get. 12th house self-sabotage! I'm still trying to work through that one.

Can I eat you then?

No problem caramel! The fantasizing comes from your 12th house Venus.
All planets and placements are workable, you just need to keep working at them! You're possibly feeling your Venus square Saturn with restrictions, also this is only what Saturn wants you to think. Would you say you're afraid of entering relationships, caramel?

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posted January 09, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Sven: Haha! Yes you can! And you're correct I am afraid to enter into relationships, but I'll attribute that to the scars from the only relationship I ever did enter.

@ Hanna: Thanks for that analysis!! I'd love to get to know you more and see how we work through the same aspects yet from the perspectives of differing houses! And you are right I am evasive at the beginning of my relationships but once I commit (which takes my taurean moon a stupidly long time) I give my all. I am gladly willing to sacrifice so much just to see his smile.

Btw you all make a great online community!! I was feeling bummed when I read about my chart but you guys have such positive energy and provided me with lots of direction! My taurus moon wants to bake you guys brownies but cap placements wants to shake your hand while 12h-aries wants to smile at you all coyly hahah

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posted January 10, 2014 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
@ Sven: Haha! Yes you can! And you're correct I am afraid to enter into relationships, but I'll attribute that to the scars from the only relationship I ever did enter.

Btw you all make a great online community!! I was feeling bummed when I read about my chart but you guys have such positive energy and provided me with lots of direction! My taurus moon wants to bake you guys brownies but cap placements wants to shake your hand while 12h-aries wants to smile at you all coyly hahah


Thanks! We're all students and we're all teachers here! Yum! You going to make brownies as well??? I've just ate you caramel

Ok, you can make us brownies and then we can shake hands, whilst you hand over the brownies. After this you can smile at us coyly whilst we devour them!!!


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posted January 10, 2014 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SerpeantKing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
Oh I'm fairly new to the study of astrology so I'm unsure of that.. however I do know venus does not have any soft aspects.. but I realize I posted limited info. Here's my chart if it helps:


I'm an Aries with Venus and Merc Square Neptune. When I got to a certain age, specifically when Pluto crossed my Moon in Sag, my whole idea of what I thought love was supposed to be and felt like you for a while, but you're an Aries, don't give up-you know who you are.
Btw, you were born on April 6th, 1989 eh? My little bro is April 7th, same year. He's been with his Cancer girlfriend for a few years now.

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Aries Sun
Sagittarious Moon
Scorpio Ascendant(2nd decan)
Mercury in Aries
Venus in Aries
Mars in Taurus
Jupiter in Aquarius
Saturn in Scorpio
Uranus in Sagittarious
Neptune in Capricorn
Pluto in Scorpio
Chiron in Gemini
North node in Taurus
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caramel
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posted January 10, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Sven: Hahah its a deal!

@ SerpeantKing: Thanks for the insight! I try not to give up on my Aries though I feel very stern towards it, I guess that's just a 12h effect. So cool about your brother! I'm a 7th too! I get along great with my cancer friends!

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posted January 10, 2014 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Sven: Hahah its a deal!

Hooray! Yum!

Would you consider yourself to be a private person, caramel? Do you find it hard to express yourself?

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posted January 10, 2014 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sven555:

Would you consider yourself to be a private person, caramel? Do you find it hard to express yourself?

Actually in my mind I view myself as an open book but I detest it so if there's any chance I get to shut that book tightly, I take it. But we all must like to keep some sort of a mysterious aura around us, no?

Yes, I do sometimes find people are not perceptive enough to read between the lines. I mean, I'm not hesitant to elaborate but its more of that I am consciously putting multiple filters in front of myself so to not hurt others (knowing my Aries has the potential to do so). Unless the other person is the one person who knows me long/well enough and I know will be able to understand me. And yes this repression may cause problems later. Then again, isn't everyone like that Sven?

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posted January 10, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sven555:
Hooray! Yum!

Would you consider yourself to be a private person, caramel?


My goodness, I guard my privacy like an aqua man would his freedom. Extremely private

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posted January 10, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
Actually in my mind I view myself as an open book but I detest it so if there's any chance I get to shut that book tightly, I take it. But we all must like to keep some sort of a mysterious aura around us, no?

Yes, I do sometimes find people are not perceptive enough to read between the lines. I mean, I'm not hesitant to elaborate but its more of that I am consciously putting multiple filters in front of myself so to not hurt others (knowing my Aries has the potential to do so). Unless the other person is the one person who knows me long/well enough and I know will be able to understand me. And yes this repression may cause problems later. Then again, isn't everyone like that Sven?


An open book? It could be your Midheaven (MC)? The Ruler of your Midheaven is in your 9th house. You're right know, you need to keep a little mysterious aura so people stay interested trying to get to know you!

People must feel your 12th house energy then, as you think people don't read between the lines. Selflessness (Pisces energy) is possibly why you don't want to hurt others. Maybe you can use your Arian energy for other things? I think some people repress, caramel. But obviously it's not always good!

Excluding family, do the people that know you, know you very well?

Thanks for the brownies!

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posted January 10, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
My goodness, I guard my privacy like an aqua man would his freedom. Extremely private

You could be a spy? Oooooh

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posted January 10, 2014 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love your insight!! Hahah i'll definitely keep that as a career option if I want a change.

Even some of my family does not know me as well as they could but I've noticed that especially when I'm in dire need of a specific type of support, somehow the universe gives me someone out of the blue who's fits the bill exactly!

As for aries energy, yes I try to (and hope to) channel it into bouncing back, staying positive, and my career.

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posted January 10, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
I love your insight!! Hahah i'll definitely keep that as a career option if I want a change.

Even some of my family does not know me as well as they could but enough people do for me to have a support system which is great! As for aries energy, yes I try to (and hope to) channel it into bouncing back staying positive and in my career.


Thank you! Haha sure, it's always an option

That's good! Friends can tend to know us better, than family lol. You have alot of Arian energy deep down lol, give me some


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posted January 10, 2014 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gladly!!! Take it all! Hahah I'd gladly be a taurus that changes these squares to trines.

Btw what are your prominent energies?

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posted January 10, 2014 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello caramel! Welcome to LL

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posted January 10, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello caramel! Welcome to LL


Thanks!! I love this community already!

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posted January 10, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gladly!!! Take it all! Hahah I'd gladly be a taurus that changes these squares to trines.

Btw what are your prominent energies?


Take it all? All the caramel? Yum!

Although being a Taurus would lead to trines, you do need squares! Squares are a source of energy!

I'm not sure what my prominent energies are, I have a Leo Mars, which squares my Taurus Sun and scorpio pluto, it trines my Aries Venus. Mars sits in my 10th house conjunct MC, so i'm rather driven towards career things!

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posted January 11, 2014 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Squares are a source of energy!

I'm not sure what my prominent energies are, I have a Leo Mars, which squares my Taurus Sun and scorpio pluto, it trines my Aries Venus. Mars sits in my 10th house conjunct MC, so i'm rather driven towards career things!


I liked the positive spin you put on squares! Oh you're a taurus sun! Super sweet people in general! And no wonder you appreciated my taurus moon baking you brownies haha! Leo mars is awesome, I've noticed that in general it gives people such admirable drive.

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posted January 11, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I liked the positive spin you put on squares! Oh you're a taurus sun! Super sweet people in general! And no wonder you appreciated my taurus moon baking you brownies haha! Leo mars is awesome, I've noticed that in general it gives people such admirable drive.

Yes! Some squares are easier to deal with than others, but typically Saturn or Pluto squares (and oppositions) to Luminaries require more work do overcome the friction.

Thanks! Most Taurus Sun's I know are decent people; although we all have Sun square Mars, ha! You need to make more brownies! Well my Sun and your Moon don't conjunct (19 degrees apart) but your Moon and ASC conjunct my DSC, which is very good! You're right about Leo Mars, but not everyone acts on their Mars and instead they don't get very far, they end up being bossy lol.

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posted January 11, 2014 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for caramel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes! Some squares are easier to deal with than others, but typically Saturn or Pluto squares (and oppositions) to Luminaries require more work do overcome the friction.


That's so interesting!I'm happy that I dont have any pluto squares. It being in 7th house scorpio, is tough enough on its own.. according to what I have read... Any way, everything you have said is super educational! I'll definitely be making more brownies haha!

I'd love to ask more and learn more but now I'm feeling bad that this "lets-talk-about-ME" thread I've made keeps jumping up to the top So I guess its time I let it fall into the abyss

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posted January 11, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by caramel:
That's so interesting!I'm happy that I dont have any pluto squares. It being in 7th house scorpio, is tough enough on its own.. according to what I have read... Any way, everything you have said is super educational! I'll definitely be making more brownies haha!

I'd love to ask more and learn more but now I'm feeling bad that this "lets-talk-about-ME" thread I've made keeps jumping up to the top So I guess its
time I let it fall into the abyss


I'll make a new thread in the "Lindaland Central 2.0" forums, and we can discuss there?

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