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caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 04:43 PM
  
Commence whining: Guys, I have Aries venus (12h) square Cap saturn/uranus/neptune.Basically I'm doomed in terms of love, right? Do you know anyone with venus squares who is in a long term loving relationship? How can such an affliction be used positively, if at all? IP: Logged |
Sven555
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posted January 08, 2014 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by caramel:
Commence whining: Guys, I have Aries venus (12h) square Cap saturn/uranus/neptune.Basically I'm doomed in terms of love, right? Do you know anyone with venus squares who is in a long term loving relationship? How can such an affliction be used positively, if at all?
Firstly, how tight are the degrees between Venus and Saturn/Uranus/Neptune?
Secondly, which houses are they placed in?
Lastly, does your Venus have any soft aspects to other planets? IP: Logged |
caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 04:51 PM
Oh I'm fairly new to the study of astrology so I'm unsure of that.. however I do know venus does not have any soft aspects.. but I realize I posted limited info. Here's my chart if it helps:  IP: Logged |
Sven555
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posted January 08, 2014 05:10 PM
Not to worry, caramel.  Your Venus squares Saturn and Neptune by 4 and 5 degrees respectively. Which aspect do you feel more? Restricted by love? Or do you fantasize about love? Your Venus is part of a 4 planet Stellium too, in the 12th house, do you find people don't understand often? Venus in 12th isn't the easiest placement, but it's not impossible. You have Venus sextile Mars (soft aspect), which can half the burden (as it is tighter to Mars than Saturn/Neptune). Have you had secret affairs before Which no-one knows about?  Can I eat you, caramel?  IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 05:16 PM
Mars is your savior.
It's the dispositor of your Aries stellium, that's even better news. And it makes a tight sextile to it.
That's what you need to use to have better 'luck' in life, in several areas - communication, focus on your skills and self--esteem. Make sure you communicate clearly and that people understand what you mean.
Ruler of DSC is Pluto, in the 7H, not afflicted (except a weak quincunx to the Aries Sun/Venus - which could point to a need for adjustment) but basically I'd say you're not doomed at all. Just gotta work on your self-expression and your own skills and development, that can help you come out of your shell (12H), be more confident and consequently deal with people in a clearer / more efficient way.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Mars is your savior.
It's the dispositor of your Aries stellium, that's even better news. And it makes a tight sextile to it.
That's what you need to use to have better 'luck' in life
So planets aspecting their dispositor are strong?
Im like so needy of your astrological approval LMFAO IP: Logged |
Sven555
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posted January 08, 2014 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
So planets aspecting their dispositor are strong?
Correct! The dispositor is usually the method of how to offset the harsh aspects. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 05:31 PM
Oh cool, that's what I thoughttttttt
I have Venus conjunct Its dipositor
So does my dad even though it's debilitated just so warm expressive and loving. Atleast to people he loves.and my s.o has debilated mars conjunct it's dipositor.. I don't really feel the fall. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 05:38 PM
Yes, it does make it stronger, but it generally just points to the area of focus of a planet, especially a stellium - it's like additional info, you mix both elements together.
The rulers of the ASC, Sun and Moon are pretty important overall. And stellium dispositors.
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Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 05:45 PM
Oh cool.
So what if Jupiter is detriment in Virgo and squares domicile Mercury?
Is it still positive even though it's a square?IP: Logged |
Sven555
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posted January 08, 2014 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh cool.
So what if Jupiter is detriment in Virgo and squares domicile Mercury?
Is it still positive even though it's a square?
It's possibly a little easier to handle because Mercury is in domicile. Jupiter's in the sign of Virgo and Virgo is mercurial. So it's a workable aspect. Is the square tight? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 05:58 PM
Kerosene,I'd say the square is not "positive", actually it would probably create some exaggerated / overly optimistic / unrealistic ideas and a disorganized mind; do you have trouble gathering your thoughts and focusing? The way you type reflects that kind of... "chaotic" vibe, you skip words often. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 05:58 PM
Yasssss.It does not really feel positive.
I'm so mentally lazy...
I absolutely hate proof reading LOL
to be honest I'm not really trying to impress anyone here with my prose Sometimes I won't even speak and just nod make noises or just stare at people.. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 06:09 PM
^  That's what I thought.  IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted January 08, 2014 06:14 PM
You don't have Venus sq Uranus.You do however have Sun/Mercury/Venus square Saturn (restriction)/Neptune (idealization). That's a lot. But square aspects aren't all that bad once you know how to work around them. A person with plenty of sextile/conjunction aspects would be boring. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 06:21 PM
^ lol maybe not boring, but... hmm less complex overall?Good point about Uranus. No square there, too wide.
- I know some people with an afflicted Venus who are happy in a relationship.
Hell, with my Venus, I should be a lucky ******* when it comes to love but naaah. Moon is effed up, and that's quite an important factor when it comes to relationships.
DSC ruler is pretty important as well so, there's room for hope for those who have it unafflicted. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 06:25 PM
I kinda like it though!!!
Mercurians are total diction natzi while I'm sitting, LOLOLOLOLOLING.
Which is most likely a mercury-jupiter thing IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted January 08, 2014 06:28 PM
Hmm i find too many trines and sextiles in a natal chart to be boring.
I think most people I'm close with are loaded with squares and oppositions. Same thing in synastry.. the more friction the more hot it is.
While positive aspects are nice it gets old pretty quickly. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted January 08, 2014 06:38 PM
I think there's a fair amount of "Mercurians" on LL. I like Mercury. He's my kinda guy (or gal?).  I see what you mean, trines and sextiles can be un-exciting for people who need stimulation (and let's face it, most people like some drama now and then).
People with too many squares & oppositions in their charts may be interesting but in the long run they can be too difficult to deal with cause of their inner tensions and dramas. I speak from experience, lmao. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted January 08, 2014 06:54 PM
Your inner planets Sun/Moon/Mer/Venus are all in 12th house. You seem like an introvert. Maybe you want to read up on Sun/Moon/Mer/Venus in Pisces.Focus on the 12th house too. From my understanding, it has a veil effect. People can't see you for who you are. It feels like a curse at times but maybe what you need to learn is just to be yourself and give love without expecting anything in return. I can't really read the Venus square Saturn/Neptune from 9th house. Spirituality restricting your love maybe? You shouldn't idealize your love. IP: Logged |
caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Sven555:
Not to worry, caramel. Your Venus squares Saturn and Neptune by 4 and 5 degrees respectively. Which aspect do you feel more? Restricted by love? Or do you fantasize about love? Your Venus is part of a 4 planet Stellium too, in the 12th house, do you find people don't understand often? Venus in 12th isn't the easiest placement, but it's not impossible. You have Venus sextile Mars (soft aspect), which can half the burden (as it is tighter to Mars than Saturn/Neptune). Have you had secret affairs before Which no-one knows about? Can I eat you, caramel?
LOL @ "eat you, caramel"!
Thanks for the analysis Sven! Hahah no I have had no secret affairs, but I do fantasize about love. I'm restricted in a way that the love I want I never get, or may be the one I want is the one I know I wont get. 12th house self-sabotage! I'm still trying to work through that one.
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caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 07:26 PM
Thanks summerlite and Doux! @summerlite: Im definitely an introvert. People can never guess I'm aries. Even I was surprised I was an aries when I first read the description of an aries girl. To be honest I refused to believe in astrology because I didnt identify with the description at all! I then started to identify with my taurus placement or aries sun-taurus moon. But now I see its also more of a 12h effect. @Doux: thank a bunch for the thorough insight! I'm not bad at communicating but people do say that I keep it very short which could lead to misinterpretations. Furthermore, sometimes I don't bother to correct their misconceptions because I assume they will be perceptive enough to figure things out. But you are right these aspect just require some work. IP: Logged |
caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
I can't really read the Venus square Saturn/Neptune from 9th house. Spirituality restricting your love maybe? You shouldn't idealize your love.
Funny you should say that! I'm devoted to my faith and the ones with whom I've had a mutual attraction, have been the opposite which has made me slightly apprehensive about the future of the relationship, scared that they may impose their differing beliefs upon me, and I may not be able to contest.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted January 08, 2014 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by caramel:
Funny you should say that! I'm devoted to my faith and the ones with whom I've had a mutual attraction, have been the opposite which has made me slightly apprehensive about the future of the relationship, scared that they may impose their differing beliefs upon me, and I may not be able to contest.
You should seek somebody who shares your faith. Find someone who is compatible that you feel comfortable spending your time with.
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caramel
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posted January 08, 2014 08:06 PM
agreed thanks!IP: Logged |
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