posted January 10, 2014 07:24 AM            

One I did with Jude Law (yes, I know, but it is just for exercise reasons, really. ), and one with Mr Sag.

In the first composite,
his Sun/Venus-mp is conjunct composite Venus 0.45
my Sun/Venus-mp is conjunct composite Sun 0.46

in the comp. with Mr Sag
his Sun/Moon-mp is conjunct composite Sun 1.22
my Sun/moon-mp is conjunct composite Moon 1.21

Apparently, if one person`s midpoint is conjunct a composite planet (whose natal version is part of the midpoint - like Sun or Venus in a Sun/Venus-mp configuration),t hen the other personīs midpoint will be conjunct the OTHER planet in composite.

But why is that so? What is the natal or synastric resonance behind it?
Does anyone know?

And does anyone experience something like that in their composites, too?

EDIT:
The only thing that I noticed was that
in the first case there was a Sun-Venus-conjunction in synastry (my Venus).

posted January 10, 2014 01:33 PM            

"did you read my last post in the Progr Composite thread?"
I will check it out.

"I just checked a Composite of mine, and we indeed have the same picture that you discribed in your first post. We have an exact synastrical Venus-Pluto opposition, and my natal Venus/Pluto midpoint squares the CP Venus, while his natal Venus/Pluto MP squares the CP Pluto"
Yes, exactly like that. I have checked more composites and it is a consistent pattern, which probably has its reason in the same planets being present, doubly, in the two synastries, and the composite being the midpoint chart.

Anyway, I do still think it is significant, that these patterns exist. Maybe another reason why the conjunctions and oppositions are usually so strongly felt.

But Sun/Venus-conjunction or Sun/Moon-conjunction aside in synastry, it is STILL my Sun/Venus conjunction being conjunct Sun in the one composite, and probably indicating how the very identity or essence of that composite/ connection is trigering feelings of attraction inside of me.
And probably with the composite planets triggering natal midpoints (or planets) there might be some sort of projection at play.
Yes, you might be attracted to the way the two people in question (including you or myself) relate to each other, but since it is rather difficult to be attracted to an abstract construct, and since it only exists BECAUSE of the other person, what might happen is that we project these things onto the other person. AT least to a certain degree.
In this instance I would project Sun onto Jude, or see him as embodying Sun.
And this brings us back to the synastry, where his Sun is conjunct my Venus.
It might not be exactly the same, but there seems to be some sort of interdependence.

How did you experience the Venus-Pluto-opposition?

posted January 10, 2014 01:34 PM            

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The reason for this occurrence seems to be the presence of a synastric conjunction.

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Yes!

So, let's never forget this;

ANY synastry conjunction will have the almighty result that one of these planets in the Composite is conjunct the natal midpoint of those planets in one chart while the other composite planet is conjunct the natal midpoint of both planets in the other chart.

(with the synastry opposition you will Always get the square midpoints)

posted January 10, 2014 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:

I once considered myself in the weighty position to share a synastry Sun/Moon conjunction AND this midpoint blessing .. thanks to my suspicious mind only for some minutes

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posted January 10, 2014 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Yesss you're right!

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Makes me want to list the conjunctions/Oppositions.
Within 4°.
Because I use 2° with midpoints, and the orbs of cp-planet to midpoints is always half the orb, that exists in the synastric configuration. Oh the symmetry.

With Mr Sag:
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his Sun conjunct my Sun: 1°02
his Sun conjunct my Mercury: 1°55

his Moon conjunct my Sun: 2°42
his Moon conjunct my Mercury: 336

(hius Mercury conjunct my Mars: 4°13)
his Mercury conjunct my Neptune: 0°34
his Mercury conjunct my NN: 0°47
his Mercury conjunct my ASC: 2°22

(his Venus conjunct my Avx: 4°27)

his Mars opposite my Jupiter: 0°07

his Jupiter opposite my Jupiter: 1°03

(his Neptune conjunct my MErucry: 4°35)

his Pluto opposite m Chiron: 1°21

his MC conjunct my Sun: 2°09
his MC conjunct my Mercury: 3°02

And with Mr Law
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his Sun conjunct my Venus: 1.3

his Moon conjunct my Uranus:3.27

(his Mercury conjunct my Mercury: 4.26)

his Venus conjunct my Neptune: 3.07
his Venus conjunct my NN: 2.54

his Jupiter opposite my Saturn: 0.13
(his Jupiter conjunct my Avx: 4.18)

his Uranus opp. my Chiron: 2.38

his Neptune conjunct my Mars: 0.58
his Neptune conjunct my NN: 4.01
his Neptune conjunct my ASC: 0.53

his Pluto conjunct my MC: 0.34

his SN conjunct my Saturn: 0.06

his chiron opp. my Pluto: 3.47

his ASC conjunct my Mars: 4.05
his ASC conjunct my Neptune: 0.41
his ASC conjunct my NN. : 0.54
(his ASC conj. my ASC 2.14)

his MC conj. my Pluto: 0.37
his MC conj. my MC: 3.30

posted January 10, 2014 09:57 PM            

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And like i mentioned in my oldish post in my Comp Thread, my natal
Sun/Moon midp conjuncts his natal Venus/Mars midp, and in the Composite it
resulted in CP Sun smack on CP Venus/Mars midp and CP Moon quincunx
it.

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Eeey this is interesting.. I had this aspect with a short but very emotional
frustating affair.

But.. the opposite.

His natal Sun/Moon midpoint opposite my natal Venus/Mars midpoint (within 1).

Result;
Cp MOON conjunct Cp Venus/Mars midpoint!

posted January 11, 2014 01:37 AM              

Heres are some of the configurations I found in ours (there's more but I only listed the ones I considered the most significant)

My Desc/Vertex MP conjunct C. Vertex 0°
His Desc/Vertex MP conjunct C. Desc 0°
Synastry: my Desc conjunct his Vertex 0°

My Sun/Asc MP conjunct C. Asc 0°
His Sun/Asc MP conjunct C. Sun 0°
Synastry: my Sun conjunct his Asc 0°

My Saturn/Desc MP conjunct C. Desc 0°
His Saturn/Desc MP conjunct C. Saturn 0°
Synastry: my Saturn conjunct his Desc 0°

My Saturn/Sun MP square C. Sun 0°
His Saturn/Sun MP square C. Saturn 0°
Synastry: my Saturn opposite his Sun 0°

My Moon/Jupiter MP conjunct C. Jupiter 1°
His Moon/Jupiter MP conjunct C. Moon 1°
Synastry: my Moon conjunct his Jupiter 2°

My Moon/Saturn MP square C. Saturn 0°
His Moon/Saturn MP square C. Moon 0°
Synastry: my Moon opposite his Saturn 0°

My Moon/Neptune MP square C. Neptune 0°
His Moon/Neptune MP square C. Moon 0°
Synastry: my Moon opposite his Neptune 0°

posted January 11, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Ok that's interesting.. a lot of conjunctions.. derived from them I would say that Composite Mercury is the most significant with Mr Sag.
Namely, it's Your mercury AND His mercury which both carry a conjunction(s) in synastry.

Maybe that's how we can determine the strength or signifcance of a composite planet also. Just look if there's a pair of the same 2 natal planets/points which both share a synastry conjunction ~ to whatever planet each (I don't think it happens that often).

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Yes, Mercury IS important.

In both our natal chart it rules the 7th house, in his chart it also rules the 4th house, and in my chart it rules the 9th house .

In the composite it rules the 8th and 5th house, being placed in 11th house.

In fact Mercury in Sag and Jupiter in Pisces are in mutual reception, and the sole dispositors of the composite. Everything is coming back to these two. They are also widely opposite (7 degrees).

Actually Mercury on 17 Sag conjuncts Neptune on 15 Sag in 11th house, and Jupiter is on 10 Gemini in 5th house.

Mercury and Neptune are additionally conjunct SAPPHO on 17 SAg (same degree as Mercury).

This triple conjunction is involved in a Yod-configuration, as it is sextile Pluto in 8th house, and quinkunx EROS and PRIAPUS right on the IC.
While some might not consider it a Yod, because thre are calculated points and an asteroid part of it, I find it interesting nevertheless.

Mercury: 17°13 Sag
Neptune:15°12 Sag
Sappho:17°48 Sag

Pluto: 15°14 Libra

eros:14°40 Taurus
Priapus:15°27 Taurus
IC: 16°31 Scorpio

But it is actually a Boomerang Yod, as the chartruler Uranus is opposed the Eros, situated in 9th house.

Uranus: 12°23 Scorpio

Of course this configuration alerts us to the possibility there might be midpoint pictures attached to this.
Excluding the asteroids there are within 2 degrees:

Neptune = Mercury/Jupiter (square)
(oh the idealism!)

Neptune = Venus /Uranus (conj.)
Neptune = Venus/MC (conj.)

Mercury= Venus/MC (conj.)
Mercury = Moon /Uranus (0.24 - conj.)
Mercury= Saturn/Pluto (square - over a degree)
Mercury = Sun/Jupiter (square - same as above)
Mercury = Venus/Juno (square)

IC = Neptune/Pluto (opp.)
IC = Jupiter/Node (square)
IC = Mercury/Pluto (conj. 0.29)
IC = Mars/Jupiter (square)
IC = Uranus/Juno (square)
IC = Neptune/Node (opp.)
IC = Mercury/Node (opp.)

Pluto = Venus (square)
Pluto = Jupiter/Saturn (square)

Uranus= Chiron/Juno (opp.)
Uranus = Jupiter/Pluto (square)

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Venus is interesting here in that it rules the North Node, which is conjunct Mars in Libra in the composite.
At the same time it ALSO rules the IC (and Eros and Priapus) and is trine the IC-Eros-Priapus.

Venus is also involved in a golden Yod (5th harmonic) with Jupiter and Saturn and in fact sits on its peak.

Jupiter in 5th sextile Saturn in 7th, both biquintile Venus in 12th (which is disposited by Saturn btw. lol)

It means that

Venus= Jupiter/Saturn with an orb of 0°14

Venus is also just in 2 degree orb for a square to Pluto/Node-mp, but I do not know how relevant that is, though she IS tightly square Pluto.

About Jupiter it is very interesting as it sits on 10.41 Gemini in 5th house.

Not only is that conjunct my SN on 10.10 Gemini and my DESC on 7.01 Gem, and opposing Neptune on 9.56 Sag, and also is opposite HIS DESC-ruler Mercury on 9.23 Sag,

but we first met when the ASC was on 9°01 Sagittarius according to solar fire though astro.com has the ASC on 10.21 Sag.
There was also an opposition of BML and Eros from 12 Sag to 12 Gemini that day, and a triple conjunction of Sun-Sappho-Priapus from 2-4 Gemini.

Mercury was important in the first meeting chart as well, in domicile in gemini; ruler of 7th house in 7th house, prominently placed, flanked by a conjunction of MAHAKALI and KAALI (I know those are asteroids, but there was a great deal going on with these tantric asteroids, including Siva-Parvati-conjunction, pr Kaali conjunct pr ASC on the pr composite, right on that Siva-Parvati-conjunction - and fact is I DID experience something that was probably some sort of Kundalini Rising. lol)

posted January 11, 2014 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Maybe that's how we can determine the strength or signifcance of a composite planet also. Just look if there's a pair of the same 2 natal planets/points which both share a synastry conjunction ~ to whatever planet each (I don't think it happens that often).

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Yes, that makes sense.

posted January 11, 2014 11:59 AM              

Composite Venus in Taurus 8th house on my Venus-Mars and the others Sun-Moon Midpoint...

posted January 11, 2014 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Composite Venus in Taurus 8th house on my Venus-Mars and the others Sun-Moon Midpoint...

Composite Moon conjunct my sun-moon midpoint.

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Is composite Mars conjunct the other`s Venus/Mars-mp?

is Composite Sun conjunct the other`s Sun/Moon-mp?

posted January 11, 2014 12:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
If the synastrical aspect is wide in orb, the midpoint aspect in the Composite/ natal would be wide, too. it only confirms how important are the tight orbits in synastry, because wide orb in midpoints are not considered, and the pattern in the Composite will loose its strength.

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Yes, that I was thinkint, too, which is why I limited the orb of conjunctions to 4 degrees.

posted January 11, 2014 01:24 PM            

Hello Lav .. it's really virgo-time here lol. Nice listing also btw

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Now, the ASC of the Composite between me and my flame at 18.42' Aries conjuncts exactly his natal Sun/Moon midp at 18.38' Aries. Wish i can trace it back to our natals, find the origins.
Any suggestions, gals? For information , my natal ASC sessquare his Natal Sun/Moon at 0.1 orb.

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If I see it right then his Sun/Moon midpoint must also be exactly sessquare his own ASC.

So there's Always a resonating angle involved when someones natal planet/point is conjunct a composite planet/point.

David Cochrane says about this specific configuration;

""This balancing point seems to be a positive point of fulfillment for person A, and almost equally fulfilling for Person B who feels the inclination to provide the qualitiy of that planet in relationship to the planet in person As chart""

Person B = the one that brings the point of balance (you in this case).

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We have this one as an example;

His Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct the composite NN (0'10).

His Sun/Moon midpoint is 8 degree from his own NN (separating).
His Sun/Moon midpoint is 8 degree from my NN (applying).

Or: his Sun/Moon midpoint is the midpoint of both our NN's.

posted January 11, 2014 01:27 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Is composite Mars conjunct the other`s Venus/Mars-mp?

is Composite Sun conjunct the other`s Sun/Moon-mp?

Do you have a Sun-Moon and Venus-Mars-conjunction in synastry?

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OMG IT DOES.
Composite Mars is 29 degrees Taurus
and Venus-Mars mp is 29 degrees Taurus 0_0

Venus conjunct Mars synastry yes.

posted January 11, 2014 01:30 PM            

Lets see my synastries with conjunctions/oppositions within 4 degrees.

With Him.
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His Moon opposite my Chiron 1'45
His Mercury opposite my Sun 2'36
His Venus conjunct my DSC 0'55
His Mars conjunct my Juno 0'42
His Jupiter conjunct my Neptune 0'44
His Saturn conjunct my Pluto 1'00
His Uranus opposite my Mars 0'36
His SN conjunct my Lilith 0'39
His NN conjunct my MC 1'47
His Chiron opposite my Juno 0'40
His Lilith conjunct my DSC 1'54
His Juno conjunct my MC 1'37
His DSC conjunct my Neptune 0'29

posted January 11, 2014 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:

So there's Always a resonating angle involved when someones natal planet/point is conjunct a composite planet/point.
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posted January 11, 2014 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
OMG IT DOES.
Composite Mars is 29 degrees Taurus
and Venus-Mars mp is 29 degrees Taurus 0_0

Venus conjunct Mars synastry yes.

Oh wait is that why because composite is basically midpoints of two charts.
but why is my Venus-mars midpoint The venus in the composite and their Venus-mars mp is the mars.
because in Venus conjunct Mars synastry I'm the mars?

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Yes, I think that is exactly the reason.

My Sun is conjunct Mr Sag`s Moon.

Composite Moon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp. The one in this configuration that is mentioned only once (Sun) is the one I provide in the synastric conjunction.

posted January 11, 2014 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Wow that is a LOT Ceri, ..!

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Sorry, I must have gottren carried away a little.