posted January 19, 2014 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
It sounds to me like he is reclaiming himself and doing a great job at it. How long have you all been together?

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We dated a couple years ago during the insanity of his separation and his extremely angry wife trying to stop him from divorcing her....I stopped seeing him because he wasn't fully divorced as I thought he was. I didn't know until she called me and said she wasn't going to divorce him, she would be working it out with him.
He wanted it over....I think he wanted me to hang on because it showed her he was moving on and wanted her to do the same. I wasn't into that and she wasn't going to be moving on easily, she did everything to prevent the divorce!

We've stayed friends but that whole situation was terrible, his ex is mean and ruthless, she's a Leo Sun/Capricorn Moon!
Him and I only communicating by phone or text messages and he's always reminded me he's there for me and will always help me if I need anything. He popped back up a couple weeks ago asking if we could go eat and catch up, he missed me.
We talked again last night and he asked if we could go out on a date, since our first time around we moved to fast and then everything went out of control because he wasn't actually free to be dating!

posted January 19, 2014 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by mcmlxix:
I really like this site to gain fresh insight on Venus-Mars. Personally, the hopeless, love-at-first-sight romantic in me finds this Mars placement irresistibly magnetic.

Here are some highlights:

For the Mars in Pisces Lover, to love and be loved is a compulsion; an all-consuming drive that affects every part of their lives. It is their demon...

With Mars in Pisces we confront the essence of sex appeal...

A relationship with a Mars in Pisces Lover can seem like a headlong plunge into an emotional and sexual abyss.

...these Lovers often thrive in circumstances of emotional upheaval and they typically do all they can to keep their romantic situations fluid and unfixed.

Deception and subterfuge often play large roles in the love lives of Mars in Pisces Lovers.

And perhaps that is the most problematic quality of this type — no matter how badly they behave, it’s just too damn easy to fall in love with them all over again.

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It does seem to be too easy to forgive these ppl! Lol

I just wonder if they are really worth all the stress and deception that seems to go along with this placement.

posted January 20, 2014 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Honestly, as a mars insides reading these descriptions, I must say I'm blushing. There was a time I would have been a scandalous man, and my imagination is unquenchable and untamable at times, but I spend most my time as a normal mormal...so to me I'm quite entertained by these villainous portrayals.

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posted January 20, 2014 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Just a little aside: Transformation is usually ascribed to Pluto. Neptune is often overlooked in this instance. Blind, primordial fish live at the bottom of the ocean. That is the WORST of us; the best of us are dolphins. Every Neptunian/Pisceans has a magnificent capacity for each.

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Very interesting analogy, that's helpful! I also like to think of things in analogies, it makes things easier to understand!

posted January 20, 2014 02:16 AM            

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Pisces mars....tell me who are

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They’ll never tell you who they are.
They don’t even know themselves.
If you want to date someone who knows who they are – date an Aries Mars, compatible with your Sag

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and what do you crave sexually?

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Very spiritual, ethereal, almost non-physical/platonic experiences.. Something that would make a religious leader (in the religion of their choice) proud of them.

Better yet – they usually crave becoming a monk and never having sex at all.

As a side-note, when they are hetero they seem to have huge issues with women.
When homosexual, they seem happier in a sexual relationship with a man.
I'm not sure why this is, but it often has something to do with one or both of their parents and the twisted messages they received regarding sexuality.

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How can I bridge our differences in communicating sexually?

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Very difficult, if not impossible. Your Mars signs are square. Pisces is next to impossible to understand for ANY Mars sign – let alone for a Sagittarius Mars.
I have Cap Mars conjunct Neptune – and I know men with their Pisces Mars sextile my own (and also conjunct my Pisces Jupiter) – and I still have huge issues with them.

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What do you guys need in order to open and truly bond with someone so that you love talking to them and want to express yourself openly with them?


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They are never openly expressing themselves on a sexual/physical level. Pisces is not at all an open book and this is regardless of who they are with. Scorpio Mars is the only placement that truly gets them – because they are intuitive (not because Pisces Mars willingly opens up to them).

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What do you guys need sexually that makes you feel close and safe in a relationship to the point you feel love?


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In my experience, they need religion.
I have a Pisces Jupiter and Jupiter is dignified in Pisces so I’m very open minded and expansive in my spiritual views. I am always negatively surprised by the very narrow way in which Pisces Mars men view sex – through their traditional, religious, monk-like spectacles. They are very virginal and they project all of their sexual issues onto the object of their attraction. They have a Madonna-wh0re complex like none other.

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What role do you want to play, are you always passive?

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Always passive.

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Yes. They can be very passive aggressive. If you have a hunch that their behaviour is intentional, don't even second-guess yourself! It likely is.

Due to my Mars conj Neptune I am passive aggressive back – and needless to say it doesn’t end well.
They are the biggest sook when it comes to passive aggression. They can sure dish it – but they can't take it.
If you give them a taste of their own medicine they start crying about it and making you look like the 'bad guy'.

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No. Never… and they are very often suicidal.

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How does someone help you open up?

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posted January 20, 2014 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh and quite apart from their odd relationships with women and their platonic sexuality... they also have this strange (bordering on delusional) view of themselves as James Bond.. or some other male character in a movie of their choice.
They have days when they really think they're something else --- The centre of the Universe.. Thor or some legendary male character lol
I know one who thinks he is Luke Skywalker O_O

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All of that is a bit terrifying! Lol

Oh, my mars doesn't square his....gemini@29.33...supposedly a trine, out of sign.
It's my mercury that squares his mars

posted January 20, 2014 10:59 AM            

My entire processing of anger takes about an hour!
I find out about whatever it is, it stews for about 20 minutes, I finally explode for about 15 minutes then I start to calm down and within 15 minutes I've thought about a way to turn it into a positive and 10 minutes later I can't remember why I was mad!

So when a pisces comes along and is still mad about something that to me, all is good, I'm baffled and it ****** me off all over again because why are they still thinking and freaking out about a dead issue?
It makes me think they just love to make drama and are trying to keep me upset when all I want is to be happy!
They decide they are upset just because I got upset? Usually at something they did....
My son is a pisces Sun....he drives me bonkers! He doesn't do something he's supposed to, it has a negative impact on our lives in some way...I get upset...then get over it!
Only to find that now he's mad at me....he mad that I got upset? Because he did something wrong and it had a negative affect on our lives? Really?
Well da, I'm supposed to get upset! Doesn't everyone get upset? Just because pisces doesn't appear to get upset, doesn't mean they don't!

It's like they expect you to just coddle them because, they were wrong and something bad came from it and now everyone's mad them!
Example...my son forgets to take the trash out and so the dog gets to it and shreds it all over the back yard...I'm supposed to be a happy about that? Am I supposed to console him for being forgetful after I reminded him and reminded him and he still didn't do it?

It's almost like they want to be consoled for their bad behavior that has made life more stressful? What? Seriously? No!!! Anymore I try not to respond or get angry I just focus on cleaning up the mess, but that's not even good enough...why? Because they are intuitive and he knows I'm not happy! So he's still mad at me for being upset? What am I supposed to jump up and down in excitement that I get a spend 45 minutes cleaning up trash that rips to pieces all over the yard?
See I just don't get pisces? It feels like you can't win! Are we never to have feelings about pisces that aren't anything but pure happiness regarding their behavior?
If that's what they expect they really need to work on their performance so it's perfect, because only perfection is going to bring them everyone loving them every second of every day!
They need to realize they aren't the only people allowed to have feelings of disappointment and if they don't want disappointment focused on them then get with the game and stop doing dum-bass stuff!
It's like they never want to see the repercussions of their behavior, they don't take responsibility for what they do...instead they lie(my son tells the stupidest lil white lies) and they cover it up, if they can't cover it up and get caught....later they get revenge!
My son has shown this in little ways..
Try to discipline him he takes it and pouts for awhile but then comes back sweet and apologizes and I think we are all good until he goes to his dad's and trashes me for being to unfair? I don't get it!!
My daughter is aqua sun and cap everything else....she's all about responsibility and says she will never get with a pisces guy after living with her brother!
Funny thing is she had a long distance relationship with a pisces boy and he kissed a girl, then came to her sheepishly and said he'd cheated on her(they are kids...16/17 so no sex stuff yet, whew, my daughter hasn't even kissed anyone she's scared of it for now)
Then the boy, he got mad at her for getting mad at him for him cheating!
He wouldn't even fully explain what happened for months....
I'm sorry but that's con-artist/scapegoat behavior! They are looking for the easiest way to get away with doing bad stuff!
Ugh, I told her a couldn't stand that kid! Lol...I told him to! Gemini mars has no issue telling you what you did wrong and why it was wrong!
She took a couple months to get over it and now wants nothing to do with him, she says it's immature to behave like he does!

I love my temper, its not something to be upset about it's awesome! I get over stuff so quickly and nobody suffers an tong term damage!
But pisces keep stuff hidden inside forever...then think about it and let it justify some bad behavior that really really hurts ppl that love them! (My son hasn't ever done anything like that but I've seen other pisces do that)
That's very scary to me!

Needless to say this is a difficult issue because I don't see how to bridge the difference, according to pisces they are never wrong on these matters and instead of seeing that they might be they turn into passive aggressive person, and clean the toilet with your tooth brush or have an affair ....

Ok, I've never experienced this myself, but I know ppl that have and so it's my fear, I don't have any real evidence of that or proof that will happen, but it's a definite fear!
Esp with my Pluto on my Venus(the affair would kill me) and Virgo Moon(the toothbrush would kill me to!!!)

posted January 20, 2014 12:16 PM            

Neptune....ugh! They are slippery, no way to pin them down and get them to see how what they do affects others!
When you do they get angry and passive aggressive!
It's like a circular argument!
You can't win!

If scorpio can get them....what are they getting? Do pisces cheat on scorpio?
Is their a way to understand them that prevents them from turning to lying and cheating? I don't want to be cheated on!

posted January 20, 2014 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
...these villainous portrayals.

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I don't interpret Pisces Mars behavior as villainous. At it's core there's a vulnerability...which is both chaotic and desirable. There's magic in the elusive (and illusive) slippery fish...I gave up being frustrated by it years ago.

posted January 20, 2014 12:55 PM            

I share your Sag Mars, so I understand your need for fiery action and directness, and I also get the Piscean mutability...besides the Mars, my Sun is mutable.

posted January 20, 2014 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
It's preposterous to assume that mars in Pisces is a cheater based on a simple mars and sign placement.

I call foul play here..and coincidence.

Plus, to poster above, I know many Aquarius suns who cheat.

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well, he was an aqua sun/pisces mars... lol. you will find cheaters of every sign, but some signs are definitely more open to it than others based on their emotional nature(s)

posted January 20, 2014 01:40 PM            

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His Mars in Pisces squaring your Sun and Mercury? Your sun opposite Venus conjunct Neptune. Moon conjunct Uranus on your Venus...He sounds like a handful.

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Pisces in general is a handful! Lol
But I don't think they see it and I don't think they mean to be like that...that's their innocence!

It's like a baby who throws up all over you, they didn't mean to do it and are totally oblivious to what they did... if you get even a little bit upset they sense it and don't know why but they feel empathy and so they start screaming!
You've made it 1000x's harder on yourself!
Not only do you have to clean up their mess, you have to console them while you do it! It's kind of a slap in your face when your an adult though!

But just like a baby, you can't tell them to grow up, they just aren't going to get it, to them it's going to feel like your being mean because they have no idea of what they did and how it affected you!

It's just a strange dichotomy to have mature adults with this style of reasoning/thinking!

posted January 20, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Gabby:

I share your Sag Mars, so I understand your need for fiery action and directness, and I also get the Piscean mutability...besides the Mars, my Sun is mutable.

Do you have any prominent water planets? My Moon is water. Does your Mars guy have any prominent fire or cardinal planets?

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Not really, I have scorpio Uranus and Scorpio North Node! My water houses are empty except my virgo moon in 12th.
My saggy Sun/Merc fall in my 2nd scorpio house, my saggy Neptune is in my 3rd, but they are all conjunct.

My gemini mars almost is cancer mars, gemini@29.33... but it's retrograde, so it's not moving into cancer so I have hard time calling it a trine to his pisces mars!

I do have pisces Pallas and vesta conjunct in my 6th house!
Also I do have very prominent cluster of asteroids all right next to my Uranus, there is probably 8 very spritual asteroids right here, I remember a few of them....scorpio Uranus/Kali/Lilith/Pythia/Ute/Samadhi are nearly an exact trine to his mars!

posted January 20, 2014 02:16 PM            

At least Pisces isn't secretive like Cancer and Scorpio can be, but I've found that the way Pisces communicates isn't linear...it only really makes sense when you can intuit the meaning rather than logically deduce it.

posted January 20, 2014 02:31 PM            

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Virgo Moon and Gemini Mars...no wonder you want a man you can communicate with!

At least Pisces isn't secretive like Cancer and Scorpio can be, but I've found that the way Pisces communicates isn't linear...it only really makes sense when you can intuit the meaning rather than logically deduce it.

While Virgo and Gemini are mercurial, they're logical...

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I married a cancer....ugh! I'd say they are worse than pisces but I'm not sure, it's close!
Scorpio I've managed to avoid! Lol
Pisces are sweet and don't mean to hurt you, cancer and scorpio will go all out to get you...while pisces stumbles into bad decisions and genuinely seems sorry. Unless you get upset then you've hurt their feelings and they get mad at you for getting upset!
Ya, your right....it's all that mercury that making an issue! I'm trying to logically figure them out but it's not possible!

Everything comes back to mercury!

posted January 20, 2014 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
lol i'm mutable/Mercurian and cannot get Pisces at all.

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What is your mercury Summerlite?

posted January 20, 2014 06:37 PM            

Pisces Mercury is good as well - when it's conjunct my own Merc in Pisces.
Pisces Venus doesn't really interest me.. I'm neutral.
Pisces Moon in men is a HUGE handful. They have mother issues form here to England.
And finally - Mars in Pisces is definitely my least favourite planet in Pisces.. because I can't deal with their behaviour.

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I'm never passive aggressive, I explode and 20 minutes later can't remember what I was angry about!

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posted January 20, 2014 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Pisces are sweet and don't mean to hurt you, cancer and scorpio will go all out to get you...while pisces stumbles into bad decisions and genuinely seems sorry.

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Not saying it couldn't happen, but Pisceaness doesn't seem capable of maliciousness. I suppose there could be a seriously afflicted one.

I've seen countless examples of Pisces 'stumbling into bad decisions', but I think it's really more a matter of them making curious (to me anyway) decisions that can cause a stumble...or something very interesting.

posted January 20, 2014 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I like Pisces Suns and don't find them difficult unless there are other placements that make them difficult.

Pisces Mercury is good as well - when it's conjunct my own Merc in Pisces.
Pisces Venus doesn't really interest me.. I'm neutral.
Pisces Moon in men is a HUGE handful. They have mother issues form here to England.
And finally - Mars in Pisces is definitely my least favourite planet in Pisces.. because I can't deal with their behaviour.

I am passive aggressive when I have reasons, but my Capricorn Mars conj Neptune is passive aggressive in a controlled manner. Their Pisces Mars is completely out of control. There's often no rhyme or reason to their nebulous actions.
I'm calculated - and they're crazy lol

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Wow! Your a pisces mercury and still can't get pisces mars to communicate with you in a way that is good?
Ugh!! It's hopeless!