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Topic: Saturn in 7th - the worse placement?
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Ellynlvx
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posted January 29, 2014 12:23 PM
  
Actually, I was thinking along those lines. If one is hesitant to rush into a relationship, but gives it time to be completely sure, that is not necessarily a negative trait.IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted January 29, 2014 05:51 PM
By itself Saturn in the 7th doesn't really do much of anything. There has to be another influence... perhaps harsh aspects to that saturn etc, for it to be significantly felt in synastry. If you're talking natal charts then Saturn in the 7th may cause issues with the spouse depending on other factors.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted January 30, 2014 06:53 PM
I'd rather have Saturn in the 7th than 5th (which I have). It would be nice to be twice as creative. The romance part is irrevelant to me so I wouldn't be worried about that.------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted January 30, 2014 07:08 PM
@mandarin - exactly. who wants life long problems with their spouse?? IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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posted January 30, 2014 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by fauxcoat:
@mandarin - exactly. who wants life long problems with their spouse??
Don't think of it that way, it's not so bad... With Saturn in 7th there might be some difficult lessons in relationships especially early on, but Saturn is about putting in the effort and working towards something long term.. Failing and then trying again, etc. Eventually you'll learn which relationships are really worth investing in and will be the most stable/rewarding. I have this and personally wouldn't even consider marriage until I'm at least 30. I have moon and pluto in 5th so I know it's a weird combo but I really do enjoy romance and dating, I just think not every person you have a connection with needs to be a potential marriage partner... A lot of people get married young, but a lot of people also get divorced lol eta, I understand it can still be rough and I've complained about my 7th house planets endlessly, but honestly after having transit Saturn in my 5th I don't think I'd switch if I could. 5th house is the first steps you take in meeting someone, but also about a lot more than just romance... IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted January 30, 2014 08:08 PM
Precisely my point.There are enough broken homes and sad children out there. Divorce court, icky. If Saturn says give it Time and make sure this is going to work, I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. IP: Logged |
wonderingwoman
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posted January 30, 2014 10:19 PM
Well I also have Saturn in the 7th house gemini and I've had little success in lasting and longterm relationships. At this point I don't think I will ever get married.Saturn also squares Venus along with 3 other planets. So for me Saturn is a difficult placement. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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posted January 30, 2014 10:41 PM
Me too. I am not sure if I will get married and if I do, it will be later on and I will be too old to have children. IP: Logged |
hodad
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posted March 12, 2014 05:15 AM
I'd say Saturn in the 4th is the worst.
I am wondering about Saturn in the 7th in synastry---I have a double whammy with this with someone.We have a lot of nice aspects but this one raises a red flag--IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
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posted March 12, 2014 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by hodad:
I'd say Saturn in the 4th is the worst.
I am wondering about Saturn in the 7th in synastry---I have a double whammy with this with someone.We have a lot of nice aspects but this one raises a red flag--
Going abit ot but I agree, I have Saturn in 4th my emotions are repressed and I feel a lack of nurturing and growing up in a depressing environment has taken a toll on me psychologically. I have trouble relating on an emotional level. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted March 12, 2014 12:26 PM
Saturn is where we are "serious" in our chart.It is also the Lord of Time and Karma, "reaping what you sow". There are no malefics and benefics, this is just a Middle Age philosophy,when people needed to explain bad events/good events by the intervention of "evil vs. good spirits". We all have to get over this. Just my opinion, no offense. And, of course, as Ellynlvx says, Saturn is a bit of Bondage now and then. 
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Chiemi
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posted March 12, 2014 12:41 PM
Idk if this is the best example of Saturn in 7th tightly conjunct her Dsc, but my mom has this placement and she was married at 21 when she had my sister. But... She's on her third marriage now (just got engaged) but I think that she's finally happy. Her 1st marriage (my dad) she left because he lacked responsibility and was too immature and her 2nd marriage she left because although he was responsible, he was wayyy too constricting. I think now she's met someone who has a good balance (both responsible and doesn't try to control anyone). My dad was a few months younger than her, my step-dad was 13yrs older than her and her now fiance is 7 years older.
She also has her Sun, Mercury, and Venus in her 7th and her Dsc is in Taurus and Venus conjunct Saturn.
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 07:11 AM
I have saturn in aquarius, exactly conjunct my DC and it's an air singleton in my chartI'm a loner and basically an aloof and detached person, been so since I can remember
personal relationships and friendships, well I'd say I don't have a problem reaching out to people, but all those close to me are aqua suns, who have some prominent capricorn. most have cap moons, a couple others cap ACs
age difference, I never gave much thought into how old I wanted them to be. I've been attracted to people younger, older and my own age. it's more about how a person acts and behaves and overall how mature, serious and loyal they are
personally I was never one of those girls who dreamed about getting married. I could have gotten married 3 or 4 times by now, but in fact if a person I've just met happens to pop the question so fast, then I'd be very quick to leave them. I generally dislike shallow relationships and marriages. the idea of staying with someone for the rest of my life also gives me some anxiety (aqua DC, also sun trine uranus), but if they're interesting people who keep me engaged, then I'd have no problem I suppose!
I look kinda saturnian too, physically visible bones and joints, saturn makes an exact aspect to my AC anyways I kind of like my saturn where it is; as I'm a very work-oriented person (sun in 10th), ever since I was a kid I knew I didn't want to become a mother, so I wouldn't be the type to rush into a marriage just to get a child from some man
I'll be 26 in about a month and after that if I'm still alive on earth, I'd be expecting my saturn return in 2 years
maybe someday after my saturn return I'll get to be more accepting of others, and less quick to dismiss others; or perhaps not. maybe someday along the way us 7th saturn people realize that ultimately there are very few humans who are truly worth our time and energy, so having the power to leave people quickly and move on may prove useful, all that time and energy we can invest in a productive activity to improve the society; yep I think this pretty much sums up my singleton aquarius air saturn on DC 
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Ann7
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posted April 05, 2017 07:31 AM
Don't know if anyone has stated this because I haven't read through all of the comments but... I have Saturn in the 5th, it's never hindered my dating / love life however it's made me very self concious. Until the man I am currently with (9 years this month) my serious relationships only lasted about 2 years. But, I have gemini on the DC which is famous for multable marriages / relationships. My friends with saturn in the 7th seem to have waited to get married or choose not to get married. Maybe saturn in the 5th along with saturn in the 7th makes the native slow to mature / get comfortable this way? IP: Logged |
Sikanda
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posted April 05, 2017 12:09 PM
I think Saturn would hinder wherever it is. I have this and I have always felt disconnected and unempathic in a way. I feel like people are sometimes disagreeable to me or ignore me with no reason (for example, I just said 'hello' and 'bye', and never did anything to them). It's like they think that I dislike them or something? And I am just minding my own busimess. The only thing to do here is to learn to communicate how I feel to others.Apart from that, yes, I am careful about entering relationships, that's true. I've learned to give more of myself though.
Maybe it is important to point out that it is not always bad to not marry, if you do not want to do it (just for the sake of doing it) and you have a fulfilled life with friends, career and things to do. I see myself having a partner and a kid or two though, but I consider that at the same time, having kids is a very serious issue. It is even stressful to think of how much of a good education you have to give your kid. And how you have to erect yourself as an example of a human being (you cannot tell them not to do something if you are doing it yourself because they won't take your word seriously). IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted April 05, 2017 01:00 PM
@girlwitharainysoulWhere is your Moon?
Where is your Venus?
Where is your Juno?
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Sikanda
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posted April 05, 2017 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by AnastasiyaEnchanted:
When ever people see Saturn in relationship houses, they get this induced fear of having rigidness and coldness around romantic matters. But this path doesn't always have to be the case, just like with every planet, there can always be a malefic side. With Saturn here, I think that this person had a karmic past of abandonment or being deceived by their partner so in this lifetime, they came to resolve this problem. So basically, you need a partner who you can trust fully and who is very dependable. You might be wary of getting close to other people, including friends, until you can trust them. It CAN mean never getting married or getting married late in life, but that is a very "fortune-teller" thing to say. To commit to a person fully you need responsibility, realism and honest quality in your partner and not someone who is immature, needy or childish. So Saturn here isn't bad! Youre just extra cautious in giving your heart away Which in return can be proved to be worth the wait.
True, I like the way you see it, because I just don't buy into b******t. I am very conscious about my relationship with people and yes, they must be dependable. I don't even bother trying to befriend people who are not worth it.
I wonder why does it have to be the purpose of all people to get married? Why not travel and experience as a life purpose, for example? I agree that the important thing is to love and embrace your traits so as to get the maximum benefit from them.
And each new relationship brings us wisdom and learning experiences.
I loved what Lucielemonade said about this. I agree with Aries23degrees that as we struggle and feel frustrated in relationships we end up accepting people the way they are. But this process is hard, weary and painful because it means a lot of effort. I would also add that we take things in a very personal light sometimes, so we may end up feeling hurt and revengeful. If we do not open up about it, we might be holding a grudge for years. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]@girlwitharainysoulWhere is your Moon?
Where is your Venus?
Where is your Juno? [/B]
hahaha how do you mean? the actual placements? moon in 9th venus in 11th juno in 6th (conjunct saturn/DC by 5) uranus (DC ruler) in 6th, conjunct north node and neptune, trine sun in 10th, opposite mars in 12th, square mercury in 9th I can post my natal and progressed chart in the personal reading forum, if you'd be interested to have a look at IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted April 05, 2017 01:38 PM
Saturn in the 7th house implies you take others seriously and are capable of commitment. As anonymidarkness mentioned in the first response this is an exaltation in traditional language (accidental exaltation).I have recast such conventional notions of dignities/exaltations, detriments/falls in terms of what is for a particular planet the sign of its most natural mode of expression (dignity) and second most natural (exaltation); least natural (detriment) and second least natural (fall) modes of expression. The more naturally fitting modes of expression mean that planet tends to work smoothly in a lot of ways early on. Less natural modes of expression indicate there are some lessons to learn and it may take a while to get comfortable with channeling that planet's energies constructively. However, I have no use for the tilted value judgments 'worst' and 'best.' This is reductionism that does not help to understand how astrology works in our lives. If you truly have that placement, it is yours. There is no use labeling it as if you wish you had something else. Learn it, put it to creative good use. It is an expression of self-acceptance, which is the highest dignity of all! ------------------
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
However, I have no use for the tilted value judgments 'worst' and 'best.' This is reductionism that does not help to understand how astrology works in our lives. If you truly have that placement, it is yours. There is no use labeling it as if you wish you had something else. Learn it, put it to creative good use. It is an expression of self-acceptance, which is the highest dignity of all!
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
As anonymidarkness mentioned in the first response this is an exaltation in traditional language (accidental exaltation).
http://proastrologer.com/2013/04/14/annoyingly-intelligent-people- the-astrology-of-mensa-level-intelligence/ this article has listed saturn in 7th as one of the elements which gives a person intelligence now it may be true or false, but I think saturn in 7th makes you a lot careful with your interactions with others, and you also get to learn a lot from one-on-one relationships; and overall the 7th saturn people may spend more time in solitude, doing other stuff than living a boring relationships or wasting time in an unproductive social life, so this time alone may get used to study, think, reflect, work, etc IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted April 05, 2017 02:51 PM
@girlwitharainysoul  Sure you can do that. I would be interested to see your chart.IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b]@girlwitharainysoul Sure you can do that. I would be interested to see your chart.[/B]
I just posted! thanks in advance!
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poppydaffy
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posted April 05, 2017 04:14 PM
capricorn rising with saturn in the 1st, everybody just take a chill pill, you dont have saturn in your face like me :-) it sucks, i can attest to that!IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 05, 2017 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by poppydaffy:
capricorn rising with saturn in the 1st, everybody just take a chill pill, you dont have saturn in your face like me :-) it sucks, i can attest to that!
my sister has aquarius venus conjunct saturn conjunct her AC! she ditched modelling and got into politics! (scorpio pluto conjunct MC, also a sag sun conjunt north node and a libra moon conjunct jupiter) IP: Logged |
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