posted February 08, 2014 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha, Cappy are you trying to be funny? You are the one that started the thread with a list as if Spock lives on earth.

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You know, that kinda makes sense. As he wouldn't be influenced by the the signs, in the same way, at least.

Now that I think about it, if he is a Virgo Sun, then since he was born on Vulcan, his Vulcan would be directly opposite his Sun in the sign of Pisces.

posted February 08, 2014 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
I always associated Vulcan with Roman mythology. He was supposed to create the weapons of the gods and was associated with a blacksmith. I know this doesn't relate to Spock but another thread about Zeus has given me Greek/Roman mythology on the brain.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So do you suggest we make up new constellations and planets just for Spock and try to figure things out from there, John?

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Hmm, I don't know.

I think the signs would be the same since we're in the same Solar System, but if we're using Vulcan to rule Virgo (as if Vulcan existed, it should rule it) then Vulcan should be directly opposite his Sun, as Earth is directly opposite ours since we were born on it.
So him being a Virgo Sun is actually the same as having Vulcan in Virgo, as on his planet, Astrology would not have a faster planet than Vulcan - as to represent someone's sense of logic like I believe Vulcan does, as it is usually in the same sign as the Sun sign.

Mercury would be the fastest planet in Astrology if we were born on Vulcan I believe, and I think he should have Mercury in Virgo, which is still a domicile for Virgo, regardless.

Either way, he has Mercury and Venus in Virgo, (according to astrotheme) and if Mercury represents what Vulcan represents and Venus represents what Mercury represents while born on Vulcan, then he has both domicile in Virgo, which makes sense to me.

I believe I am trying to get too scientific on this, as if this whole thread is intended to be that way. It was just about Spock's astrological placements, lol.

posted February 08, 2014 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Hmm, I don't know.

I think the signs would be the same since we're in the same Solar System, but if we're using Vulcan to rule Virgo (as if Vulcan existed, it should rule it) then Vulcan should be directly opposite his Sun, as Earth is directly opposite ours since we were born on it.
So him being a Virgo Sun is actually the same as having Vulcan in Virgo, as on his planet, Astrology would not have a faster planet than Vulcan - as to represent someone's sense of logic like I believe Vulcan does, as it is usually in the same sign as the Sun sign.

My astronomical knowledge is not sufficient enough to draw a conclusion as to how the planets in Astrology would work when born there.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Where is Vulcan? The original Star Trek series Vulcan?

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Vulcan is hypothetically in between the Sun and Mercury.

posted February 08, 2014 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Vulcan is hypothetically in between the Sun and Mercury.

Was Vulcan not in the same Solar System as Earth in Star Trek? Or was it supposed to be a different Vulcan? I don't know, as I never watched it, lol. I just know how Spock is supposed to be, so I based my astrological opinion of him on that.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What?!?!?
You never watched it????
How can you admire Spock then?
Since we all know that Vulcan is way too hot to support the kind of life form Mr Spock is, it cannot be that Vulcan. So, it must be someplace else. I guess it has a different name and Vulcan is just the human mythological equivalent?

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Yeah, makes sense.

So my theory is out of the equation then.
So I believe we can only base anything unless we know where Spock's Vulcan is.

If in a different Solar System, then we should use a whole different Zodiac.

posted February 08, 2014 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, makes sense.

So my theory is out of the equation then.
So I believe we can only base anything unless we know where Spock's Vulcan is.

If in a different Solar System, then we should use a whole different Zodiac.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yup, that's why I leave the task of figuring this out to you. You will need to formulate a list of constellations, planets and meanings. You are free to include more than one sun or moon if need be.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yay! I love when I can be creative and not restrict myself
But I added to my last post.
I said - Although, how complex can the different kinds of personalities get?
So maybe our Zodiac is the same in the whole Universe. meaning in every Solar System, it has the same Zodiac influences.

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posted February 08, 2014 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The planets, suns and moons would be different if Mr Spock was born on Vulcan. He might even have different constellations if it's really far or in a different galaxy, Andromeda, for instance.

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Yes, but the constellations aren't affecting is, the vernal equinox on the ecliptic is.

posted February 08, 2014 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yes, but the constellations are affecting is, the vernal equinox is.

In Vedic Astrology, they use the constellations.

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posted February 08, 2014 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Yes John but if the galaxy is Andromeda, how can the constellations be the same?

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posted February 08, 2014 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
They aren't the same.
But what I was trying to say is it wouldn't make a difference since the constellations do not influence us anyway.

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posted February 08, 2014 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So this means you won't be figuring out Mr Spock's chart?

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Lol.

posted February 08, 2014 08:19 PM            

Asc 23 Aries
Sun 15 Capricorn 10th house
Moon 28 Virgo 6th house
Mercury 12 Aquarius 10th house
Venus 07 Capricorn 9th house
Mars 24 Gemini 3rd house
Jupiter 10 Leo 4th house
Saturn 24 Aquarius 11th house
Uranus 12 Gemini 3rd house
Neptune 03 Virgo 5th house
Pluto 07 Scorpio 7th house

This version of Spock is partly inspired by Leonard Nimoy’s (born March 26, 1931) real chart, and partly by how I see the character of Spock. I think that’s where I got the Aries Rising ruled by a Gemini Mars from. He is direct and sharp in his speech. I put degrees on the planets because I wanted to highlight the aspects I see in his chart as well.

I gave him a Cap Sun with Virgo Moon (both ruled by Saturn and Mercury in Aquarius), because I see him as rational and self-controlled, as well as highly intellectual and analytical, where he would compartmentalize (try to contain) his emotions. I also think Saturn in Aquarius trine Mars in Gemini suits intellect/self-control theme.

Mercury in Aqua is both ruled and trined by Uranus in Gemini, and Mercury is also opposite Jupiter in Leo. I picked Jupiter in Leo for him because this a bit of pride and dignity to his character, which is not earthy or airy. I also detect some hints of idealism, in opposition to his rationality, within his character... A kind of 'ethical honor' if that makes sense.

Venus in Cap sextile to Pluto indicates a side to him that is usually kept under raps, but self-control is still evident (I don’t think I’d go as far as the Scorpio Venus previously mentioned). Pluto in the 7th also means he would tend to perceive ’others’ as too intense and emotional, and he attracts that energy in reaction to his apparent coolness.

posted February 08, 2014 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Lol.

I can make things up, but they won't have any basis.

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posted February 08, 2014 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

It would be like fan fiction. You could write an entire novel on Mr Spock's Vulcacentric natal chart.

If Nimoy is an Aries it's only fitting his character Mr Spock be a Libra.
If I ever have my own character she is bound to be a Pisces.

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That's interesting. You really like Pisces, huh?

posted February 08, 2014 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
That's interesting. You really like Pisces, huh?

Can you guess what my character would be? Lol.

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