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Topic: Mr. Spock!
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 12:59 PM
He's my favorite Star Trek character, I'll spare you the "Why I love Spock" speech though (at least right now ). I thought it would be fun to create his chart. If you're familiar with him, I hope you join me. Aries Ascendant Capricorn Sun Aquarius Moon Virgo Mercury Scorpio Venus Capricorn Mars Pisces Jupiter Leo Saturn Libra Neptune Capricorn Uranus Aries Pluto If you're a Star Trek fan, you should totally check: (2309) Mr. Spock (2335) James (9777) Enterprise (22003) Startrek (h55) Vulcan (4259) McCoy (3594) Scotti I have: (max. orb - 1) Mr. Spock opposite Mars exact, sextile NN exact James sextile AC exact, square Jupiter Enterprise conjunct Vertex, square Pluto exact Startrek conjunct AC, trine Neptune Vulcan conjunct Neptune and Uranus, trine AC McCoy square Sun, trine Vertex exact Scotti conjunct anti-Vertex, square Pluto Cool, isn't it? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3885 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 08, 2014 01:26 PM
Don't you think he would have been a Virgo Sun? He's also my favorite. If he has a Scorpio Venus, it must be in his 12th. IP: Logged |
Canadiangirl Knowflake Posts: 848 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 01:28 PM
He is a cool character. Less of a fan of Captain Kirk.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 01:37 PM
Yeah, a Virgo Sun would fit. Scorpio Venus square Saturn, Saturn in the 5th and the 12th house is not needed anymore ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5194 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 08, 2014 01:37 PM
I don't think a Cap sun can have a Virgo merc.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 01:39 PM
Pixie, go away ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
barbriallen Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 08, 2014 01:40 PM
I love this post! Spock is my all time favourite character I've always thought of Spock as a Virgo sun and Gemini moon. I'm sure I read it in a book somewhere but I can't remember which one. Anyway, I can see the capricorn sun and aquarius moon too. How did you calculate those aspects? That's so cool, I hadn't even heard of those before! IP: Logged |
Libcap Knowflake Posts: 133 From: NYC Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 01:44 PM
I'm so cappy I SWEAR we're on a connected frequency I just posted this post on the "Gemini weird mouths" threadMany ancient astrologers believe that Vulcan is the rightful owner of Virgo. That it's a planet or astronomical body much closer to the sun than mercury. More drier in geology than Gemini which explain the earthier natures of Virgo. But since we can't see that close to the sun we may not discover it but many astrologers believe it's there. Some think that may explain the competitiveness of Virgo & Gemini. Gemini trying claim mercury fully as their own. This is all speculation. Spock from Star Trek is a Virgo archetype but he's half human and Vulcan. So there's a waterier side to his nature. Many Virgos are assumed to have pointed ears and thinner more delicate hands like Spock. Pointier nails. Clean completion serious analytic eyes. Even their manner of speech because they're contemplative and reserved come out more robotic and structure. Do I believe Vulcan is Virgos rightful ruler. Do I have proof not yet. But it's an interesting thought. Read Diane Eichenbaum's "Soul Signs" it's amazing! Oh I don't know if you remember but Kirk is an Arian archetype even the whole mission of Star Trek was just for pioneering space and exploration. Even William shatner who first played Kirk was an Aries. Perfect for the role. Spock relinquished his duties as captain. He would have rather been second in command. Virgos have small egos. They just want to serve and use their analytic minds to do so. I think Spock is a Virgo. IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted February 08, 2014 01:48 PM
Vulcan=virgo hurrrrrAqua asc Virgo sun Moon Cap virgo Merc Venus: Virgo Mars: Gemini Jupiter: Cap Saturn: Aqua Uranus: Aqua Neptune: Libra Pluto: Cap IP: Logged |
barbriallen Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 08, 2014 01:58 PM
I found it! The book is called "Moon signs" by Donna CunninghamIt says for moon in gemini: "Emotions are an enigma or a matter of curiosity to these intellect-oriented whizzes. They enjoy examining and categorizing yours, asking you a million questions, but they're not keen on delving deeply into their own. Confronted with an emotion-laden situation, they plunge into frenzied mental activity, such as non-stop phone calls, a marathon at the computer, or reading several books a day. The things that upset them most are not knowing the answer, having their intelligence impugned or dealing with stupidity on the part of someone else. "People with this moon sign value rationality above all else, so when confronted with an emotional crisis, they will try to reason things out and make the most logical choice. They feel the need to categorize the upsetting stimulus and put it into the right pigeonhole, with no loose ends or unanswered questions. Instinct and gut reactions get pushed aside in favour of logical constructs, although the instinctive response is sometimes the most correct. The perfect example of the Gemini moon's approach to emotions is Leonard Nimoy and his Vulcan alter ego, Mr. Spock. Yes, Mr. Spock has moon in Gemini - at least the idea for his character was conceived at a time when the moon was in Gemini, according to Nimoy's book, I am not Spock. That time serves a a kind of birth chart for him." What do you guys think?? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9007 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 02:01 PM
Aqua sun!IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 02:51 PM
quote: Mars: Gemini
And now we know you don't know much about him This is like the last Mars I would give him.
quote: Originally posted by barbriallen: I love this post! Spock is my all time favourite character I've always thought of Spock as a Virgo sun and Gemini moon. I'm sure I read it in a book somewhere but I can't remember which one. Anyway, I can see the capricorn sun and aquarius moon too. If we settle on cap sun, shouldn't he have a sag/cap/aqua merc? How did you calculate those aspects? That's so cool, I hadn't even heard of those before!
Welcome to the club! Nimoy might have a Gemini Moon. I detect no Gemini in Spock though. When it comes to Mercury, I was focused on what I thought would fit him. But if I had to choose from among these 3, I'd go for Capricorn. Mercury conjunct Uranus Leo and Scorpio are square signs so Saturn in Leo could square Venus in Scorpio. @Libcap Interesting observations! Sun in Virgo would be my second choice so I'm willing to approve that I'm trying to imagine him with Virgo rising too but I think his presence is too powerful and he's too tought. Unless it would be conjunct Pluto or something. I know Kirk shares the birthday with Shatner and I find it a perfect idea. quote: I'm so cappy I SWEAR we're on a connected frequency I just posted this post on the "Gemini weird mouths" thread
Sorry, sometimes my telepathic powers get out of control @barbriallen
A Gemini Moon is way too unstable for Spock imo. They might try to rationalize etc. but at the end they're still a mess ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 03:05 PM
Regarding the Scorpio Venus controversion (lol) I think once someone would get through his walls, he would be quite consumed by that woman and he would take it very seriously. He's capable of strong emotions and love (who cares he needs to be drugged first ). Btw, I'm at the season 2. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3885 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 08, 2014 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Regarding the Scorpio Venus controversion (lol) I think once someone would get through his walls, he would be quite consumed by that woman and he would take it very seriously. He's capable of strong emotions and love (who cares he needs to be drugged first ). Btw, I'm at the season 2.
Agreed! But it could kill him...so that might not be so good. <ETA> WTF, why does the alien icon keep mysteriously appearing at the top of my posts?? I didn't click on that... IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3885 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 08, 2014 05:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Yeah, a Virgo Sun would fit. Scorpio Venus square Saturn, Saturn in the 5th and the 12th house is not needed anymore
Good call with Saturn square Venus. Yep. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5194 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 08, 2014 05:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Pixie, go away
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Agreed! But it could kill him...so that might not be so good.
I'm pretty sure he listened to this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAfLocz3_4c Unless it was a reference to being drugged. I should've said "infected". Which worked like drugs. It was fun watching him be infected with Spores. Spock on esctasy <ETA> WTF, why does the alien icon keep mysteriously appearing at the top of my posts?? I didn't click on that...
Hihi...It's the Vulcan curse quote: Originally posted by Violets: Good call with Saturn square Venus. Yep.
Well, I put some thought into it ^^Pixie ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3937 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 06:33 PM
This is Spock's chart from Astrotheme.I agree with it for the most part. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Spock_(Star_Treck) He has Vulcan in Virgo, of course. And Vesta as well. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9007 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: This is Spock's chart from Astrotheme.I agree with it for the most part. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Spock_(Star_Treck)
I am Virgo sun and am nothing like Mr Spock and I know of no Virgo suns who are. I negate the idea of Mr Spock being a solar Virgo. I am more inclined to say Libra or Aquarius. I would say Libra sun with Venus in Virgo because I knew one and she loved Mr Spock and tried to emulate him. No Virgo I know has ever done that. Or, maybe solar Aquarius with Venus in Aquarius? My Aunt is Spock like in her acquisition and demonstration of knowledge, hardly in delivery and she's a Pisces with Venus Aqua. I am sensing Venus in either Aqua or Virgo. You are a Virgo sun, John, you don't remind me of him, either. And if you look at his face, it's very symmetrical, like Libra. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3937 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 06:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I am Virgo sun and am nothing like Mr Spock and I know of no Virgo suns who are. I negate the idea of Mr Spock being a solar Virgo. I am more inclined to say Libra or Aquarius. You are a Virgo sun, John, you don't remind me of him, either.
Well, I am not as exemplified as him, of course As he is a fictional character, and no one is actually void of emotions. Funny thing is, we both have the same Sun/Moon combo. I think that is how a significantly Virgo influenced person would be like if he had no emotions. Although, I think anyone void of emotions can be like that, lol. If they existed at least. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9007 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect: Well, I am not as exemplified as him, of course As he is a fictional character, and no one is actually void of emotions.Funny thing is, we both have the same Sun/Moon combo.
Spock has a Libra sun, Virgo Venus, Scorpio Mercury and Aquarius moon. His rising sign is Libra, he's always with Captain Kirk. Libra rising likes to be with one other person most the time. His incisive thoughts remind me of Scorpio Mercury. Definitely, Venus is in detriment or fall. He doesn't require much love or affection and is very logical. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3937 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 08, 2014 06:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Spock has a Libra sun, Virgo Venus, Scorpio Mercury and Aquarius moon. His rising sign is Libra, he's always with Captain Kirk. Libra rising likes to be with one other person most the time. His incisive thoughts remind me of Scorpio Mercury. Definitely, Venus is in detriment or fall. He doesn't require much love or affection and is very logical.
Well I can see what you're saying, but Spock doesn't really like to socialize all that much or in that kind of way, and Libra is big on that, regardless if it's one-on-one or not. Virgo Mercury is very systematic in their thinking. Everything has to be logical to them. And in a emotion void person, it can get out of control like in Spock. Vulcan is also domicile in Virgo, as his Sun is in the middle of Virgo, and Vulcan can only be 8 degrees away from it. (we're using Vulcan hypothetically, of course) All his Virgo planets are in the 6th House, as well, lol. His Mercury (and perhaps Vulcan has well, not sure though) is conjunct Pluto and Uranus, so this can give him a touch of Scorpio and Aquarius in his thinking as you said. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:52 PM
You're forgeting he's half Vulcan. Plus, he wasn't born nor raised on Earth. Vulcans are different from humans. Following logic and reason is their priority. What's interesting, there's also room for misticism in their culture. Spock decided to function in the Vulcan mode. He definitely has Virgoan qualities whether you want it or not That's why I gave him a Virgo Mercury. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9007 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:55 PM
When Libra's ruler is in Virgo, the result can be someone who is a lot like Mr Spock. Since Venus is not strong, there isn't much desire for Venusian pursuits so the affect is flat like Mr Spock. Libra is still about logic and without the Venusian distractions, it can go overboard on it. I would say moon conjunct Saturn in Aquarius trine a Libra sun. Venus in Virgo trine a Capricorn Mars (which is an aspect my friend with Libra/Virgo has.)IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8653 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 08, 2014 06:58 PM
Hmm...I think Libra rising is a miss, even with Venus in Virgo.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |