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Odette
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posted February 09, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you relate to the traits of the Western sign that is the counterpart of your Chinese sign?
Do you usually get along with people of that sign and feel an affinity towards them?

This might work better with your Inner Companion sign - which is supposed to be similar to the Western Ascendant. You can find yours here: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=67103

& This is an older thread I found about Inner Companions: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000018.html


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The Rat's equivalent counterpart would be Sagittarius.

The Ox's equivalent counterpart would be Capricorn.

The Tiger's equivalent counterpart would be Aquarius.

The Rabbit's equivalent counterpart would be Pisces.

The Dragon's equivalent counterpart would be Aries.

The Snake's equivalent counterpart would be Taurus.

The Horse's equivalent counterpart would be Gemini.

The Sheep's equivalent counterpart would be Cancer.

The Monkey's equivalent counterpart would be Leo.

The Rooster's equivalent counterpart would be Virgo.

The Dog's equivalent counterpart would be Libra.

The Pig's equivalent counterpart would be Scorpio.


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posted February 09, 2014 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monkey=leo.

Idk don't but my day sign is the Fire horse so it goes back to gemini again lol.

but I relate more to my day sign than year lol

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Thank goodness for open spaces, because the Horse needs plenty of room to roam! Energetic, good with money and very fond of travel, Horses are the nomads of the Chinese Zodiac, roaming from one place or project to the next. All of this Sign's incessant activity and searching may be to satisfy a deep-rooted desire to fit in. Paradoxically, Horses feel a simultaneous yearning for independence and freedom. Horses crave love and intimacy, which is a double-edged sword since it often leads them to feel trapped. Love connections tend to come easily to Horses, since they exude the kind of raw sex appeal that is a magnet to others. This Sign tends to come on very strong in the beginning of the relationship, having an almost innate sense of romance and seduction. Horses are seducers in general; check out any A-list party and you're bound to find the Horse in attendance. This Sign possesses a sharp wit and a scintillating presence; it really knows how to work a crowd.An impatient streak can lead Horses to be less than sensitive to others' needs. These colts would rather take a situation firmly in hand as opposed to waiting for others to weigh in or come to terms with it. The lone wolf inside the Horse can at times push others away, but this also makes this Sign stronger and is a key to its success. Horses are self-reliant and, though they might lose interest fast in a tedious, nine-to-five day job, are willing to do the work necessary to get ahead. Horses tend not to look much at the big picture; instead they just follow their whims, which can result in a trail of prematurely ended relationships, jobs, projects and so on. This Sign really knows how to motivate others, though, and get a lot accomplished. Once they find some peace within themselves, they can curb their wandering tendencies and learn to appreciate what's in their own backyard.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Four Chinese Astrology Pillars:

Year - Wood Pig
Month - Wood Roster
Day - Metal Pig
Hour - Metal Tiger

Unique Element - Mountain-Top Fire


Well, I have a Scorpio Mars/Pluto with Scorpio on the IC, so Scorpio is quite integrated in my personality, therefore I cannot say.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooo I love my Chinese Zodiac pillars they are actually much stronger than my western chart.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
ooo I love my Chinese Zodiac pillars they are actually much stronger than my western chart.

Do you remember yours?
I remember that your Year was the Metal Rooster, right?

If you don't remember, check this: http://www.fourpillars.net/calculator.php

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posted February 09, 2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Do you remember yours?
I remember that your Year was the Metal Rooster, right?

If you don't remember, check this: http://www.fourpillars.net/calculator.php


Hour - metal snake
Day + metal dragon
Month + water monkey
Year - earth rooster

On one of the calculators I had metal rooster...

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posted February 09, 2014 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Hour - metal snake
Day + metal dragon
Month + water monkey
Year - earth rooster

On one of the calculators I had metal rooster...


Check and see if this one gives you a different element for your Rooster Year.

http://www.fengshuithatworks.co.uk/horoscope.html

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posted February 09, 2014 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that and I got the same.

Okay let me think
Snake is Taurus it's my moon sign
Dragon is Aries it's on my Descendant
Monkey is Leo it's my Venus sign
Rooster is Virgo it's my sun sign.

The only one left out is Libra

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posted February 09, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I tried that and I got the same.

Okay let me think
Snake is Taurus it's my moon sign
Dragon is Aries it's on my Descendant
Monkey is Leo it's my Venus sign
Rooster is Virgo it's my sun sign.

The only one left out is Libra


Oh.

Hmm, maybe the one that said Metal Rooster was incorrect.

I am trying to remember what was that other thing 12muddy was saying about an extra element. Like I was Mountain Fire or something.

Do you remember the name of that thread? I know RunAroundScreaming created it.

Maybe your Year was clarified on that thread and we forgot we clarified it?

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posted February 09, 2014 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never-mind, found it


This thread has a lot of information.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/223856.html

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posted February 09, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, so I am Mountain-Top Fire.

I was pretty close, lol.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get on well with Cancer I think they are quite sweet even though you get odd one that can be manipulative.

My four pillars are
Hour -Fire Goat
Day +Water Dragon
Month -Water Goat
Year +Metal Horse

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posted February 09, 2014 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I tried that and I got the same.

Okay let me think
Snake is Taurus it's my moon sign
Dragon is Aries it's on my Descendant
Monkey is Leo it's my Venus sign
Rooster is Virgo it's my sun sign.

The only one left out is Libra


For me, my Month is Rooster and Sun is Virgo.
Year is Pig, Mars/Pluto is Scorpio.
Day is Pig, so same applies.
And Hour is Tiger, so Aquarius Descendant.

I got the Aquarius Ascendant i always wanted!
Well, sorta, lol. Because the Hour Chinese sign is the Ascendant equivalent.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hour - Dragon/Metal (I took into account daylight savings though)
Day - Horse/Metal
Month - Rooster/Water
Year - Dragon/Wood

I love being a dragon, I think it's more "me" than my Western Virgo sun sign. This result probably also explains my affinity for dragons, horses and birds. lol

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posted February 09, 2014 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the link from the other thread:
http://www.fengshui-village.com/en/bazi.php

Now I understand why, John, there are two sets of elements and the other site noted one set and I noted the other.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
This is the link from the other thread:
http://www.fengshui-village.com/en/bazi.php

Now I understand why, John, there are two sets of elements and the other site noted one set and I noted the other.


Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
I have that link in my favorites, but I forgot to click when I was looking at the other two.

Was that the one that gave you a Metal Rooster Year?

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posted February 09, 2014 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
This is the link from the other thread:
http://www.fengshui-village.com/en/bazi.php

Now I understand why, John, there are two sets of elements and the other site noted one set and I noted the other.


Yeah, as you were probably reading what the natural elements the signs were, instead of your elements.

For Ex:
Roster is Metal
Pig is Water
Monkey is Metal
Etc.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Dragon would be fire since it's sign is Aries...

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posted February 09, 2014 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Earth and Metal, both.

Yes, the Metal is the Rooster's natural element, but your element is Earth Rooster.

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posted February 09, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I thought Dragon would be fire since it's sign is Aries...

Makes sense, but Dragon is Wood.

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posted February 09, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Makes sense, but Dragon is Wood.

Dragon is earth according to that site and snake is fire.

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posted February 09, 2014 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Dragon is earth according to that site and snake is fire.

Yeah, mine says Snake is Fire, but Dragon is Wood.

I think a lot of people on websites are confused about this. It's weird.

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posted February 09, 2014 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, mine says Snake is Fire, but Dragon is Wood.

I think a lot of people on websites are confused about this. It's weird.



I can see why Dragon would be fire or earth but why wood? Isn't the dragon supposed to rest in a fire chamber underground? What does that have to do with wood?
Is it because of spring?

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posted February 09, 2014 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I can see why Dragon would be fire or earth but why wood? Isn't the dragon supposed to rest in a fire chamber underground? What does that have to do with wood?
Is it because of spring?

I don't know, but I'm trying to list all the natural affinities in this one post, I'm researching it right now.

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posted February 09, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natural affinities of the elements, planets and order for the signs:

Rat - Yang
Ox (Buffalo) - Yin
Tiger - Yang
Rabbit (Cat) - Yin
Dragon - Yang
Snake - Yin
Horse - Yang
Sheep (Goat or Ram) - Yin
Monkey - Yang
Rooster - Yin
Dog - Yang
Pig - Yin

Metal - Venus
Wood - Jupiter
Water - Mercury
Fire - Mars
Earth - Saturn

Metal - Monkey/Rooster
Wood - Tiger/Rabbit
Water - Pig/Rat
Fire - Snake/Horse
Earth - Ox/Sheep/Dog/Dragon

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